61% of Republicans still believe Biden didn’t win fair and square in 2020

Nearly a third of Americans — including six-in-10 Republicans — continue to hold the debunked belief that President Joe Biden didn’t win the 2020 presidential election legitimately, according to a new Monmouth University poll released the day before the House Jan. 6 Committee holds its latest public hearing.

Twenty-nine percent of all respondents, as well as 61% of Republicans, say that Biden won due to voter fraud.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pr...ve-biden-didnt-win-fair-square-2020-rcna49630

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What good news.

We agree that after the Big Lie has been thoroughly debunked, conservatives who still believe Trump won can't be saved.

If 2-3% of them decide to stop voting because they believe the election is rigged, the Democrats will be running this country even longer.

 

From JFK right up to the guy in the below story, democrats have a proven and now convicted history of election fraud. In 2016 there were many stories about people in Texas going to vote and were turned away because they were told they already voted. In Arizona they arrested someone based on the 2000 Mules info. Of course you heard about Paterson, NJ where a judge found fraud in an election. Or perhaps these two names might sound familiar; Hillary Clinton and Stacy Abrams, the two people who the term 'The Big Lie' literally originated for their claims. And we also have Project Veritas videos of how democrats commit fraud.

Do I think Biden, a child sniffing, woman groping racist who didn't campaign and chose as his VP one of the most unpopular people in the country got the most votes in history? Not a chance.

When I went to bed Trump was ahead in the states he needed. When I woke up his lead was gone. It's been shown it was not statistically possible for that to happen.

But if you want to talk fair and square, the media ran cover for the Hunter Biden scandal, they downplayed Biden's racism and sexual abuse, harassment and assaults and they stopped covering the vote totals so people wouldn't vote. They did all this while they hammered Trump for 4 years on anything they could get their hands on. To this day the media isn't hammering Biden's mental fitness any where as much as they hammered Trump's. Where are all the psychologists who diagnosed Trump just by watching him on TV and claimed he was unfit, why didn't they do that with Biden?

Do you remember when some governor pardoned all the felons in his state so they could vote? He would not have done that if he thought felons would vote for anyone other than a democrat.

Fair and square? That's laughable.

 

There is nothing GOOD, about nearly a third of Americans, doubting the legitimacy of both our elections, and our current President-- I mean, REALLY!

Your speculation that this might be taken lying down, by "conservatives," thereby benefitting Democrats, is a full blown fantasy, spun from nothing: all the information I have heard, suggests two things. First, belief in Democratic cheating, seems to be only a motivator, for members of the Right, to show up at the polls in overwhelming numbers. This is Democracy in action, and so I have nothing negative to say about it, though I will point out, it does not benefit Democratic candidates.

The other, more troubling development, stemming from belief in this fraud fallacy, is that a significant number of those who espouse this idea of victimhood, have resolved to not let it happen again, no matter what it takes. In practical terms, this has meant the menacing election officials, including Republicans who are not seen as "team players," as well as forcing out those who do not leave voluntarily, through primaries. Thus they have been swelling the ranks of those who will both supervise future elections, and afterward be in positions to certify them-- or not do so.

 

Proof that republican brainwashing techniques are highly effective

 

@Arkanis , see?

 

Sure ... just the new Republican motto ...

 

And the Russian trolls sit back and laugh, cause the Republicans are now doing all their dirty work ... they are convincing large numbers of
Americans that democracy doesn't work when "your" side doesn't win.

The stage has been set for BOTH sides to have violent confrontations if their candidates don't win - which means we ALL are in deep crap.

We have to ditch BOTH parties and start over, the two we have are completely off the rails nuts. Trump is senile and psychotic. Biden is
just plain senile. If these are our candidates, then both parties have lost their way.

 

They already have the foundation as these individuals have been groomed since they were children by unfounded religious doctrine which not only doesn’t require evidence but actively disavows its necessity.

No wonder they believe they are the majority but are also the ultimate victims in everything and anything they don’t like is a plot against them.

Some hope for the future of the nation — these people are old and the younger generations are completely turning their back on them. Hopefully the nation can survive that long.

 

I see both of you didn't refute what I said and you can't.

This is about fair and square, right? Do you think the media was fair and square when they buried stories about Biden and embellished stories about Trump? If a few Russian facebook ads can amount to Russia stealing an election from Clinton, then imagine what the entire left wing media can do. Do you want to know that they can do? They can constantly call Biden's laptop from hell Russian disinformation and then get 51 intelligence experts to lie about it.

Do either of you recall how CNN would suddenly have technical difficulties whenever someone was about to say something negative about Clinton? How about the many, and I mean many, lies told by the NY Times, do any of them ring a bell?

Fair and square my ass.

 

No, we're not all in deep crap, your side doesn't believe in being armed, my side does.

 

Rather interesting...But UN-Surprising...
Nearly a third of Americans — including six-in-10 Republicans — continue to hold the debunked belief
Many Americans believe a lot of crazy things that are in Direct Opposition to Reality...
The "TRUMP Effect"...
U.S. Belief in Sasquatch Has Risen Since 2020
https://civicscience.com/u-s-belief-in-sasquatch-has-risen-since-2020/

 

None of the crap you posted in the OP actually happened anywhere outside of the collective RWNJ imagination. How am I supposed to refute that?

 

Maybe the "debunking" wasn't as thorough as you think - mostly seems like pablum fed to the the gaping mouths of hard core LW loonies. Cased rejectsby LW judges isn't prove - it's partisan corruption. And before the BS "republican judges" rejected case - grasp the fact not all republicans backed Trump.

 

Folks, this is what a low information voter looks like. He can't refute anything with facts so instead he just denies it happened.

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand it. Do you think the media called Biden's laptop misinformation all throughout the campaign season? Do you think 51 intelligence experts put their reputations on the line by calling it a Russian operation?

Wait, I'm making too many assumptions here. Let's start off even slower; have you heard about Hunter Biden's laptop?

 

No offense but I no longer care what the right feels about — well, anything really. Y’all went 4 years screaming f*** your feelings at every issue, legitimate or not and now y’all want to be heard?

No

As to groomers, they are individuals that push children to undertake a particular point of view that they would not have previously taken. You can assert it to teachers trying to teach children tolerance and I will attribute it to the largest propaganda event that mankind has ever seen — religion. Just because y’all have found a new fun word you are playing with doesn’t mean your opponent invented it, it was invented on the right. See the third acronym in GOP (project)

If you don’t like it, then see the slogan I referenced above.

 

five minutes of democrats denying election results. Democrats have convinced me that elections can be stolen.

 

I’m not religious, so if you’re taking a jab at me it’s not going to work. But your reasoning is flawed. You’re trying to defend the left’s current obsession with sexualizing kids by saying ‘but he did it, too.’ What does a kid learn from pole dancers and drag queens?

 

Huh?
That makes zero sense...
THESE People?

^ALL "Lefties"?
No kidding...Thx for the info...

 

The democrat propaganda outlet NBC publishes a poll about Biden* stealing the election. Obviously they tone down the result but the fact they have to address it means it’s a problem. And it is, because other polls show a majority of Americans believe the 2020 election was full of fraud.

Democrats must be getting nervous. If The R’s win majorities this election and stick to their promises of investigating the 2020 election the. Democrats are in deep trouble.

 

Now that you've had your laugh, you have to prove your point.

I don't care if you can't accept Biden's victory based on ridiculous arguments.

 

We (liberals) are terrorized...

The Democrats will still retain control of the Senate, the GOP will win a slim majority in the House, and for the past 14 years Americans have voted overwhelmingly for a Democrat like POTUS.

 

I've said many times that I don't care what those 61% of conservatives think as long as they are politically neutralized.

Millions of people believe the earth is flat.

So like all election deniers, they can't be saved.

 

Blah blah blah... I still can't refute imaginary crap.

 

What part of my argument is ridiculous? Bidens groping of women that we have on video and His sniffing of little kids which the media gave him a pass on. Or how about his history of racism the media stayed quiet on but Harris didn’t? Or what about the laptop from hell which the media said didn’t exist?

If the media had done to Biden what they did to Trump Biden would not be president 3 days a week. This is about fair and square, right?

 

Did you happen to look at the video in post 17? It’s about a bunch of democrats denying the results of an election.