63% of Americans Have Little or No Confidence in Obama

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  1. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Now....this is a poll from the left; the Washington Post-ABC News. From what I'm hearing about what he'll say tonight, his numbers are likely to get even worse.


    "On the eve of President Obama’s State of the Union Address, a new poll from Washington Post-ABC News shows that fully 63 percent of Americans have either little to no confidence Obama will make the right decisions. The public is evenly split on whether Obama is honest and trustworthy, with 49 percent of Americans answering in the affirmative, and 48 percent answering negatively."

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/poll-63-dont-have-confidence-obama-make-right-decisions
     
  2. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Americans simply dont know which one of obamas lies to believe.

    I have no confidence in obamas ability to lead, either.


    Ill be surprised if the state of the union speech has higher ratings than the rug rats movie on nickelodeon....
     
  3. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a racism, I'm, telling yea.... if Obama was white, he'd be universally loved and his policies trumpeted.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Excellent information but what should be also noted is that the poll numbers for GOP Congressional members is significantly worse.

    I'm right there on board with not trusting Obama but I'm also on board with the fact that I trust the GOP even less as do the vast majority of Americans.
     
  5. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Yup, Just look at all the people who loved jimmy carter, when he did the same crap obama does.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Sorry but the "racists" don't represent any change in Obama's poll numbers. They've always polled negatively related to Obama from even before he was elected.
     
  7. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    EXACTLY! So, why are his numbers tanking? :)
     
  8. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    While I wouldn't classify Obama's numbers as "tanking" they have certainly declined significantly. "Tanking" would be more accurately tied to former President Bush's disapproval rating which was far worse than Obama's.

    In addressing the question I believe I can provide an "informed" opinion although I won't take the time to provide citations. I believe that I could provide citations for my opinion though so let me provide my "opinion" and others can check to see if they can find facts that support it.

    The decline in Obama's approval rating is predominately coming from Independents. Yes, a few Democrats can be thrown in but mostly it's from Independent voters. There has been little change from Republicans at all as virtually all Republicans have generally had a negative opinion of Obama regardless of anything it may or may not have accomplised in office. Even when Obama found bin Ladin the overally "Republican" approval rating of Obama didn't change.

    As voters we generally hold the president responsible for "government" even though we often know he has little or no control over many aspects of government. We know, for example, that President Obama wasn't literally responsible for the partial shutdown of the federal government last year as that was really under the exclusive control of Congress but that doesn't mean we give him a "free pass" on it. So Obama's numbers dropped because of the shutdown but we did hold those actually responsible to a much greater degree and the approval rating for House GOP members took a much more significant downturn.

    We don't like the way the recovery is going and to some degree we blame Obama but we know that Obama isn't literally responsible. 95% of all the income generated from the expanding GDP since 2009 has gone to the top 1% of income earners and that has nothing to do with Obama. It has to do with our tax codes and government economic policies that favor the top 1% of income earners. All of the "money" is really going to the wealthy while the average American has actually seen a significant drop in real income that has been declining since 1998 (as I recall). The President cannot unilaterally control the fact that the "income of America" is going to the wealthy and not to average Americans but we still hold him partially responsible.

    The implementation of Obamacare had serious problems but we know that the President didn't have anything to do with the creation of the website. We still hold him partially responsible though even though we know he wasn't actually responsible for the problems.

    Congress is broken and the President is held responsible for that to some degree. There is absolutely nothing the president can do about the Republican "oppose anything Obama" Congressional agenda but we still hold the president partially responsible for it. Of course, as I mentioned in a previous post the GOP Congressional approval rating really is in the tank with four out of five Americans having little or no faith in GOP Congressional members.

    So even though the President isn't really responsible for what's going on related to many of the problems that Americans are concerned with we still hammer him when we're polled. We also hammer those that we know are actually responsible even more which is why the Republican Congressional disapproval rating is almost twice as bad as Obama's. Democrats in Congress also have a worse approval rating than Obama, although not nearly as bad as Republicans, but they're not getting a free pass either. We know where the problems are and this is with Congress and not with the White House and the opinion polls reflect that fact.

    As noted though I believe it's the Independents that reflect the reason for the changing polling numbers more so than anyone else. I believe that's a pretty safe bet if I take the time to actually check it out.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wait until he announces his plan to BYPASS CONGRESS on a major spending issue, ie. the Federal employee minimum wage increase...which is CLEARLY the business of Congress.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not having the votes to pass his nonsense, does not afford ANY PRESIDENT the authority to bypass Congress, particularly on SPENDING ISSUES, including THIS PRESIDENT,and THIS ISSUE.

    The POTUS is not GUARANTEED the "right" to FORCE HIS AGENDA...except, obviously, in Leftworld.

    Could you imagine the OUTRAGE if a Republican POTUS had done what Obama is now doing?
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    according to the average of all polls the public thinks worse of Democrat congressman

    2014 Generic Congressional Vote
    RCP Average 1/12 - 1/26 -- 41.4 41.2 Republicans +0.2
    FOX News 1/19 - 1/21 1010 RV 43 41 Republicans +2
    Rasmussen Reports 1/20 - 1/26 3500 LV 37 42 Democrats +5
    ABC News/Wash Post 1/20 - 1/23 RV 46 45 Republicans +1
    GWU/Battleground 1/12 - 1/16 1000 LV 43 41 Republicans +2
    Quinnipiac 1/15 - 1/19 1933 RV 38 37 Republicans +1
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/generic_congressional_vote-2170.html
     
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    Can we all just agree that any single person in government sucks?

    Reps blame Obama and the Senate, Dems blame Congress and then you both fight over who is hated more.

    Occam's Razor would state they both suck equally. Now how to get rid of both parties, that is the question....
     
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    Kind of off topic, but kinda' not-
    It's always been pretty much normal for things to run on the brink of disaster in America. Only at the point of necessity are we spurred to invent. This has always assumed that someone had the guts to come forward. Over the last decades, America has been gutted though. This is part of why Obummer was hailed as the Messiah we had been praying for.
    Through the course of it all, I've come to the conclusion that the worst it can do is kill me. Well, I was gonna' die anyway. Thus my attitude on this board: Amused.
     
  14. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    The Congress is a whole bunch of people; 435 to be exact. And they are considered the closest to the people because they are elected locally by citizens of their own districts/states. Obama is president--the leader of the country---- and I'm sure wants to fulfill a legacy and be written up well in the history books. Doesn't look likely at this point. It won't matter what their numbers are now; it DOES, however, matter for him what his numbers are. It cannot feel very good to know that a rather large number of people who voted for you no longer support you or have trust in you.
     
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    Rasmussen: 62% Feel State of the Union 'Mostly Just for Show'

    by William Bigelow
    28 Jan 2014

    A new Rasmussen poll reveals that 62% of those polled feel tonight’s State of the Union (SOTU) address from Barack Obama is “mostly just for show.” Obama’s trustworthiness among the American public is slipping; last year 53% of those polled felt the address was “just for show.”

    69% of voters believe that most of what is promised in SOTU addresses is not achieved.
    Source:
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/28/Rasmussen-62-Feel-SOTU-Mostly-Just-for-Show

    This confirms the Washington Post item.. Certainly Obama's credibility has fallen further than the temperatures we are presently suffering in the U.S. No wonder Obama would like to include Global Warming in his speech. It's cold out there.
     
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    Damn, I might be able to get that movie in before the basketball game. Thanks BVWC!
     
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    I think this may be the most Obvious, yet overlooked reason I've ever heard for why Obama's problems are NOT racism.

    Yes, there are people who dislike Obama because of his race. But, as you say, they won't have changed their minds about him between 2007 and 2014.

    I personally was willing to give him a chance, though the stuff which came out during the campaign about Rev. Wright was a cause for great concern.

    Then I read his book, and realized just what he would do to America. By the end of the first 100 days, and looking a the people he appointed as advisers and cabinet members, Bill Ayes, Andy Van Jones et al. and I knew we were headed for a train wreck.

    I greatly dislike Obama, not because of his race, but because of his support for Government Institutionalized Anti-White Racism. If he were a White Liberal, with the same policies, I would still dislike him for his Racism, and not his race.

    But Obama's positions on AA and other types of Government Racial Discrimination have been clear from almost the very beginning. So why the plummeting number now? Who did he lose? The elderly? The Young? I've not seen a good break down of the shift in Demographics, but I'd love to scan over one now...

    Your post here has given me hope that America can turn its back on the Obama Mistake. Thanks.

    -
     
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    Obama has been a failure.....period.
     
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    Your source for that claim?
     
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    Last I saw, Obama's approval ratings are following almost exactly the same course as Bush's were at this point in his presidency.
     
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    saw another poll where his approval rating is still 43% about where Bush was at this point
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    So you are admitting Obama is no better than Bush....lol!
     
  23. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Most of the people in the survey were Repubs from the Red States. In real life the only people whose opinions matter are Dems' in the Blue States. A Repubs' opinion in a Southern Red State is irrelevant.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    I doubt if most of the Repubs in the survey even know which country they live in, let alone know who the President is at any given time. A guy showed how stupid the typical person is when he got them to sign a petition to eliminate the Bill of Rights. The only survey that mattered was the two previous Presidential elections and Obama won them without any problem whatsoever. So the silly surveys some clown runs every day is meaningless. I could run a survey and show that Obama's approval rating is 97% positive. I could also run one where it's 99% negative.
     
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    Obviously he has the authority to do it, otherwise he wouldn't be able to would he?

    You seem to forget that President Obama's "agenda" was democratically elected by the American People, TWICE. The GOP has continuously proven that they are "no,no,no" on anything Obama. If congress will not work with him, he has every right to do what he legally can on his own. Obama will not magically obtain special powers that allow him to bypass congress and create legislation for a super fascist utopia of communism. He will still be limited to the same solo executive powers that ever president has. Every executive order he passes will be scrutinized by the congress, the American people and by the courts.

    Your fears really are unfounded and completely paranoid.
     

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