9/11 explained in 5 minutes

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  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    First you said they don't, now you say they might. Which is it?
     
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    those 'pilots' are working under the premise that they fly a plane to stay in the air,not crash..so they can disagree all they want....the planes still crased,and people are still dead
     
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    Probably the only accurate thing in the OP's article.

     
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    The point you're avoiding is these pilots said themselves they (these same pilots) weren't capable of executing the maneuvers "claimed" in the OBS. Somehow though, failed Cessna pilots COULD. Sure...anybody can conceivably crash a plane, not ever planning to land as you advocate. However, the maneuvers that supposedly occurred (according to the FAA) were not possible, as advocated by these pilots.
    Whatever crashed into the Pentagon, certainly wasn't the result of a failed small plane pilot's expertise, which indicates to me (and many others), that this "magic" flight never crashed into the Pentagon. That's probably why no evidence of the "magic" flight was found (aside from the carefully placed objects we all somehow missed while watching the never ending news coverage the first couple of days).
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Truthers get more ridiculous every day. I guess everyone needs a hobby.
     
  6. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    They also lied about quite a few other things like how many gs the plane would have had to pull. It was a 270 degree turn over almost three minutes. A CHILD could make that turn. But hey. If you want to keep calling those so called pilots less skilled than children, be my guest.
     
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    thats baloney....these so called 'pilots' couldn't THINK of doing those manuvers, because it was contrary to years of ingrained training....their job is to keep the planes IN the air,not crashing them after the hardest part,the take off had been accomplished


    Also you keep perpetuating the untruth that the pilots were 'failed small plane pilots',when they WERE cetrified .
    'Atta (flight 11) arrived in the United States, together with Marwan al-Shehhi,(flight 175) in June 2000. Both ended up in Venice Florida at Huffman Aviation where they entered the Accelerated Pilot Program. Atta and Shehhi obtained instrument ratings in November 2000'
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    A Saudi, Hani Hanjour (flight 77) first came to the United States in 1991, enrolling at the University of Arizona, where he studied English for a few months before returning to Saudi Arabia early the next year.[citation needed] This was prior to any intentions for a large-scale attack.[citation needed] He came back to the United States in 1996, studying English in California before he began taking flying lessons in Arizona.[citation needed] He received his commercial pilot certificate in 1999,

    'Ziad Jarrah had obtained his license to fly small planes in August 2000, and began training to fly large jets late that year



    [IZE]Besides,even if they weren't,what could the FAA do?
     
  8. DDave

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    The data that the "expert pilots" are using to "prove" that the maneuvers were impossible was not provided by the FAA but by the NTSB. Do you know where they got it? From the Flight Data Recorder recovered at the Pentagon crash site.

    Don't you find it odd that Pilots for 9/11 Truth use data from an FDR that they claim was never part of a crash to prove a crash never happened? Which would mean the data was faked. But not faked accurately so as to support the government's claims? Gimme a break.

    Not to mention the fact that it has been shown time and time again that the calculations used to "prove" the disagreeing expert pilots claims were faulty.
     
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    Ahh yes...the FDR "found" at the Pentagon "crash" site. They say it was found there....so? Instructors wouldn't go fly with Hanji the magic pilot, because HE COULDN'T FLY. My goodness.....This is somewhat entertaining.
     
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    the pilots name was Hani Hanjour,and yes,he could fly,he received his pilot's certificate...


    Why must truthers be so bereft of facts?
     
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    Hmm...I thought I remember watching a video of the apparent instructor of Hani who himself said he was lousy (I'm paraphrasing)?
     
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    So one instructor saying he was a lousy pilot suddenly means RWAF's claim of Hanjour couldn't fly at all? Wow. I deal with developers. I know a bunch of lousy developers. It doesn't mean they can't code. It means they're not very good at it. There is NOTHING in what Hanjour did that is incredibly difficult. The "miracle turn" RWAF likes to whine about is an almost three minute long 270 degree turn. It isn't even a full circle. Hanjour didn't even have to bank past 45 degrees. I've been in plenty of flights where the pilot went well past 45 degrees. I'm also not a pilot, yet I can EASILY replicate Hanjour's course and hit the Pentagon in a simulator.
     
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    Hanjour was a lousy pilot. He crashed, didn't he?

    Point is, he was a pilot. He had his pilot's license. They don't just give those away.
     
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    Really? LOL Children can fly now? Flying is so easy, why don't we just dispense with flight schools and send in the children? Very humorous my good man.
     
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    He could barely fly a Cessna but you want us to believe he performed spectacular feats of magic with a much larger commercial jet. Is that being 'bereft of facts'? Or just obtuse?
     
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    Way to lie your ass off yet again, RWAF. Where did I say children can fly? I said a child could make that turn. Ever see a child turn a steering wheel? That's pretty much all it would take. But you go right on lying about what people say. Lord only knows you can't hurt your credibility any more than it is hurt already. Poor, poor credibility......
     
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    Since when is a 270 degree turn over the course of almost three minutes a "spectacular feat of magic"? Are your standards so low that the most mundane of things become magic to you? It would explain a lot actually..... :lol:
     
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    My children can fly planes. Two of them got their solo accreditation at 16.
     
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    I stand corrected. The plane would still need a skilled pilot. That better?
     
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    To turn and crash? That takes skill?
     
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    Flying a 500 miles an hour and aiming at a particular target, just above the grass for a pinpoint near landing? Yeah.....I'd say that's pretty spectacular. Wouldn't you?
     
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    The plane didn't land, it crashed.
     
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    Wrong yet again, RWAF. The plane wasn't flying at 500 mph when it was aimed. It was accelerating the entire time in. The final speed was 500 mph. It really is quite easy. You should try it some time. There are numerous flight simulators out there and most have commercial airliners in the package. I've done it with both Microsoft Flight Simulator X and Pro Flight Simulator using every commercial airliner available. It wasn't hard.
     
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    It's also worth mentioning that AA77 wasn't flying 'just above the grass'.
     
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    I see.....I'll have to try my kid's Nintendo out and get him to show me. Is it harder or easier than Donkey Kong?
     

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