9/11 explained in 5 minutes

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  1. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    What proof have you that despite having a pilot's certificate,he could 'barely fly a cessna'?


    And he performed NO'spectacular feats of magic'

    And yes,making up s*** as you go IS being bereft of facts
     
  2. Hannibal

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    You think a flight simulator is comparable to a Nintendo?

    That explains a lot.
     
  3. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    It's common knowledge he could barely fly a Cessna. I'm sorry you're having so much difficulty with your internet resources.
     
  4. Hannibal

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    It's not 'common knowledge'. It's a cherry picked fabrication that TM leaders sold to their ignorant followers. Hanjour was a licensed pilot with experience in piloting jets.
     
  5. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    'common knowledge'?.....Did the instructors and the FAA who issued his pilot's certificate have this 'knowledge',or did they give it to him because he'd EARNED it?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They were in on the conspiracy don't you know.
     
  7. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    just because your afraid of the truth and in denial and only see what you want to see doesnt mean they are ridulous,you all are the ones that are running off from the facts in this video refusing to acknowledge how rediculous the governments version is.lol

    you OCTA'S ignore the laws of physics that scientists have gone by for thousands of years so you OCTA'S are in no position with these ramblings posts of saying that truthers get more rediculous everyday.You need to look in the mirror when making that statement. and that just it,us truthers don lie and make things up in out posts like you official conspiracy apologists do.Talk about being rediculous.:grin:
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Delusional people often don't think they lie.
     
  9. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Specifically,WHAT 'laws of physics' do we ignore?

    And you DO get more 'ridiculous' every day.
     
  10. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe it is because them big planes are just to heavy to fly so they could not have been flown into the Pentagon.
     
  11. Patriot911

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    The funny thing about physics is that physics is a science governed by very specific laws. IF laws were broken, it would be possible for one to state the case that the laws were broken. This would actually constitute proof that would force the NIST to reopen their investigation, and by logic, the FBI to reopen their investigation. But all truthers can do is lie about the laws of physics being broken. It is surprising truthers have the brain power to SPELL physics, much less actually comprehend the laws. More than likely they're just a bunch of lemmings that repeat whatever Alex Jones, DRG, or Righard Gage tell them to say. :lol: It is so much easier to go through life with other people telling you what to think. Just ask any truther.
     
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    So we are to believe that the government faked the data but didn't have the forethought to fake it accurately to back up their story and prevent a bunch of basement dwelling halfwits from exposing their evil conspiracy?
     
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    Dropping a FDR there was an afterthought, I'm sure, if it was actually there at all. Like the rest of the 9/11 OBS, we have no verifiable proof of much of anything, except that the towers fell and something exploded at the Pentacon.
     
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    How did he keep it from hitting the ground?
     
  15. Jango

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    That is a weak argument. The guy outright said he was a lousy pilot ergo Hani got a certificate without being properly certified because what did the instructor care? He got paid. Besides, it's not like he knew the guy was going to turn around and do what he did.
     
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    How old are you?
     
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    You're claiming the guy who certified him said that? Provide some proof, please.
     
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    IIRC, the video I caught the guy in was one of the Loose Change movies.
     
  19. Patriot911

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    What is your point? Is there some magic force close to the ground that forces planes down? The only one I know of is gravity. On the other hand, there is a well known phenomenon that might explain why the craft was able to fly so close to the ground. It is called ground effect. Yes, we know you think Wikipedia is not a credible source, but do you really think the government edited the article on ground effect just to refute truthers?
     
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    Uh, if you don't hit the ground, you don't crash. Far as I can tell, the plane crashed.
     
  21. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    That is a really dishonest claim. It is tantamount to saying a bad driver got his drivers license without passing the driving tests. I know several flight instructors and they DO care for several reasons. The main reason is their instructor's license can be pulled if they are ever caught certifying someone who isn't qualified. The other reason is they are at least somewhat responsible if that guy goes off and crashes because they weren't properly trained.

    The other thing that people like RWAF ignore because it completely decimates their bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lies is the fact Hanjour WAS an accomplished pilot. RWAF likes to pretend Hanjour couldn't fly at all, yet he made numerous solo flights in several kinds of aircraft including multi engine aircraft. Here is the FBI report on him. Start at around page 21.

    So here is the bottom line question. How does a person who supposedly can't fly at all rent planes, take off, fly them, land them, and return safely? Not once. Not twice. NUMEROUS times. I am not questioning Hanjour's skills. There is plenty of evidence he was a sucky pilot. What truthers like to ignore is that a sucky pilot is STILL a pilot.
     
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    Riiiiight. You're going to fake a plane crash and as an AFTERThOUGHT you fake some inaccurate data on a FDR and drop it at the site.

    Again the claim that the conspirators are incredibly competent and incompetent at the same time.

    Why was it necessary to hit the ground before hitting the building? The line of descent took him into the building before the plane would have hit the ground. It's geometry, not magic.. Who says hitting the ground is a requirement to crash a plane?

    So you know that that's the guy who certified him and just the single wackjob that told Dylan Avery what he wanted to hear?

    By the way, Loose Change is so full of lies and misrepresentations it's amazing anyone would tout it as a source.
     
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    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Especially when they claim Wikipedia is not a credible site.... oh the irony!
     
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    The paid shills of course will ignore this credible person and the other credible people mentioned here in this article below.

    FORMER HEAD OF STAR WARS PROGRAM SAYS CHENEY MAIN 9/11 SUSPECT.


    Share(Laura Tyco) The former head of the Star Wars missile defense program under Presidents Ford and Carter has gone public to say that the official version of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory and his main suspect for the architect of the attack is Vice President Dick Cheney.


    Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret. flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. He is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President’s Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Society of Military Engineers Gold Medal (twice), six Air Medals, and dozens of other awards and honors. His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech. He chaired 8 major international conferences, and is one of the country’s foremost experts on National Security.

    Bowman worked secretly for the US government on the Star Wars project and was the first to coin the very term in a 1977 secret memo. After Bowman realized that the program was only ever intended to be used as an aggressive and not defensive tool, as part of a plan to initiate a nuclear war with the Soviets, he left the program and campaigned against it.

    In an April 4, 2006 interview with The Alex Jones Show aired nationally on the GCN Radio Network, Bowman (pictured below right) stated that at the bare minimum if Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were involved in 9/11 then the government stood down and allowed the attacks to happen. He said it is plausible that the entire chain of military command were unaware of what was taking place and were used as tools by the people pulling the strings behind the attack.


    Bowman outlined how the drills on the morning of 9/11 that simulated planes crashing into buildings on the east coast were used as a cover to dupe unwitting air defense personnel into not responding quickly enough to stop the attack.

    “The exercises that went on that morning simulating the exact kind of thing that was happening so confused the people in the FAA and NORAD….that they didn’t they didn’t know what was real and what was part of the exercise,” said Bowman

    “I think the people who planned and carried out those exercises, they’re the ones that should be the object of investigation.”

    Asked if he could name a prime suspect who was the likely architect behind the attacks, Bowman stated, “If I had to narrow it down to one person….I think my prime suspect would be Dick Cheney.”

    Bowman said that privately his military fighter pilot peers and colleagues did not disagree with his sentiments about the real story behind 9/11.

    Bowman agreed that the US was in danger of slipping into a dictatorship and stated, “I think there’s been nothing closer to fascism than what we’ve seen lately from this government.”

    Bowman slammed the Patriot Act as having, “Done more to destroy the rights of Americans than all of our enemies combined.”


    Bowman trashed the 9/11 Commission as a politically motivated cover-up with abounding conflicts of interest, charging, “The 9/11 Commission omitted anything that might be the least bit suspicious or embarrassing or in any way detract from the official conspiracy so it was a total whitewash.”

    “There needs to be a true investigation, not the kind of sham investigations we have had with the 9/11 omission and all the rest of that junk,” said Bowman.

    Asked if the perpetrators of 9/11 were preparing to stage another false-flag attack to reinvigorate their agenda Bowman agreed that, “I can see that and I hope they can’t pull it off, I hope they are prevented from pulling it off but I know darn good and well they’d like to have another one.”

    A mainstay of the attack pieces against Charlie Sheen have been that he is not credible enough to speak on the topic of 9/11. These charges are ridiculed by the fact that Sheen is an expert on 9/11 who spends hours a day meticulously researching the topic, something that the attack dogs have failed to do, aiming their comments solely at Sheen’s personal life and ignoring his invitation to challenge him on the facts.

    In addition, from the very start we have put forth eminently credible individuals only for them to be ignored by the establishment media. Physics Professors, former White House advisors and CIA analysts, the father of Reaganomics, German Defense Ministers and Bush’s former Secretary of the Treasury, have all gone public on 9/11 but have been uniformly ignored by the majority of the establishment press.

    Will Robert Bowman also be blackballed as the mainstream continue to misrepresent the 9/11 truth movement as an occupation of the fringe minority?

    Bowman is currently running for Congress in Florida’s 15th District.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why is it that truthers can never tell the truth?

    http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Florida's_15th_congressional_district_elections,_2012

    My guess is that the only reason Bowman got any votes at all (in 2006) was that there are folks who automatically pull the lever for the guy with the D next to his name.

    Oh and, hmm. Maybe Bowman was in on it too. Look at this date this was written:

    http://www.mediamonitors.net/robertmbowman1.html
     

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