A military strike against North Korea

Have no idea what mods have to do with that.
But what is not true? You said Japan is a peaceful nation, didn't you?

So, what's wrong?

 

Before that you asked, "What peaceful nation?" Why would you ask such a question if you have no definition of a peaceful nation? What point are you trying to make?

 

I can have many reasons. But anyway my question doesn't mean I have any definition of peaceful nation.
As for the point, I have already said above - what are these features which make one nation peaceful and another nation not peaceful? Why some people here say - this nation is peaceful and it's obvious, this nation is not peaceful and it's obvious again? Why it's obvious?

 

So, you don't have a point, only questions.

 

I understand my English is not perfect, but it looks people can understand me quite clearly.
Maybe you have point? Or a question? Why don't you share your ideas to us, if you have any?..
But I get back to the main point. Why some people here say this nation is peaceful and another one is not peaceful and why is this obvoius?

 

You're right. He's not brave enough to kill something directly ... he orders to kill ... [he's an indirect serial killer ].

Now he's going to play the role of the angel in occasion of the Northern Olympics.

I'm glad to observe this, I hope it's not just a communication strategy.

 

I should say the possible consequences since I dont have the power to fortell the future

Assuming the chinese get their way and north korea has a credible fleat of nuclear ICBMs that can reach the US probably nothing while trump is in office

But assuming an obama clone replaces him several things could happen

Kim will probably demand US troops withdraw from south korea

Otherwise he will consider it an act of war

That would put tremendous pressure on Seoul and Washington

But if we have a bootlicking liberal in the white house the choice is an easy one

We will leave and south korea will fall into china’s orbit

That will isolate Japan and possibly cause them to go nuclear too

What happens after that is impossible to know

 

You are the one who brought up the subject of who is a peaceful nation, so why don't you share your ideas on the subject?
You questioned Japan's status as a peaceful nation based on the fact that it has a military. So obviously that is a factor in your definition of a peaceful nation even though you claim not to have one.

 

Yes, you should.

Rank speculation. Kim isn't going to start a nuclear war an vaporize himself and his country with such threats.. He's not the first foreign country to get nukes and probably won't be the last.

The probability of that happening, unless we have an idiot like donald in office, is about nil.

However, the probability of hundreds of thousands or even millions dying as the result of an attack now is real.

So I wouldn't agree with your opinion that "the consequences of not striking are even worse."

 

Don't you see the wrongness in your own statement? You pooh-pooh the idea of a complete dictator starting WWIII resulting in his own annihilation, yet you think the world's greatest republican can start WWIII because of one man? WTF?

Are you really downplaying the idea a madman dictator with one or two nukes won't start WWIII but happily fear-monger that a sitting US President will?

 

Nope. Don't see the wrongness. IMO, the chance of unnecessary war is much greater because donald is in the WH that NK having nukes.

Why would Kim launch nukes knowing he and the rest of his country would be vaporized?

As for donald, yes I fear his temper, lack of insightfulness, need to stroke his own narcissitic ego.

 

you said I defined peaceful nation. That is not true. Do not claim I said things I didnt. Do it again you go ignore permanent.

 

Hence my point; why does the ideological Left fear their own government but completely trust the judgment of one of the world's most ruthless dictators?

 

I don't speak for the "ideological Left", but I certainly do not completely trust the judgment of NK's dictator.

As to fear of donald in the WH, isn't it self evident?

 

You fear Donald, but have no trust in our own system of government? Dude, your previous posts assert that you trust Kim over the US. Is that correct? If not, please tell me what, exactly, you are saying.

 

Well, the 1962 blockade of Cuba--which I mentioned, above--did not lead to a shooting war with Cuba. Or with its sponsor, Russia.

[QUOTE="fmw, post: 1068548563. member:22801]Sounds as impossible [to assassinate Kim Jong-un] as talking kim out of his nukes and missiles[/QUOTE]

Why?

Kim Jong-un had his uncle and his half-brother assassinated. Why should he be, on the other hand, utterly impervious to any harm?

 

And he ordered several others murdered. It's strange to me how some LWers will trust Kim's judgment and soundness of mind over our own government's.

 

Maybe you should try reading what I write, instead of making up your own characterizations.

Nowhere did I say I have no trust in our own system of government. No where did I say I trust Kim over the US.

Here is exactly what I said:

Kim isn't going to start a nuclear war an vaporize himself and his country with such threats.. He's not the first foreign country to get nukes and probably won't be the last.

The probability of that happening, unless we have an idiot like donald in office, is about nil.

IMO, the chance of unnecessary war is much greater because donald is in the WH that NK having nukes.

Why would Kim launch nukes knowing he and the rest of his country would be vaporized?

As for donald, yes I fear his temper, lack of insightfulness, need to stroke his own narcissitic ego.

 

I did read your posts:
"Kim isn't going to start a nuclear war an vaporize himself and his country with such threats.. He's not the first foreign country to get nukes and probably won't be the last.

The probability of that happening, unless we have an idiot like donald in office, is about nil."

Kim is a dictator. POTUS is not.

 

We do not need nukes to defeat north korea

What liberals fear but will not say it are north korean nukes launched at the US

Which is exactly what trump us trying to prevent by taking action before its too late

 

I advocate the "bloody nose" to DPRK, I think their capabilities to effectively retaliate are remote.

 

It wont be long before they can destroy American cities

 

The grand-daddy of all tough calls? But I have more faith in DJT than any of the other contenders.

 

From the beginning I have hoped chona would pull the plug on kim

But they will only do that if they believe trump is serious about resorting to war if all else fails

Thats why trumps bluster and beligerance is a positive thing because it could actually lead to peace instead of war

If kim is dead more moderate leaders could replace him

As I see it only china has a choice

Because trump cannpt allow north korea to have nukes

 

Yes, he got rivals to his sole leadership murdered hence his main priority is staying as leader of NK hence he is not suicidal and will not attack any country let alone the US