A Simple Question for Those Are Still Opposed to Same Sex Marriage

There you go. You and I are not that much different. I related a story before but I'll relate it again. The neighborhood I grew up in had small streams and creeks that they diverted into "storm sewers". Us kids loved to run and play in these underground tunnels. When I was about 10 years old., an older boy tried to talk me into a game he called "cornhole". He told me a number of the older boys had played it. Well, something in my iner nature told me it was wrong and I got out of there like the woods were on fire!

I relate that story because had I "chosen" a different path, a natural inhibition might have been broken down, and the secrecy and shame that went with it might have began a behavior pattern that was a matter of "choice". It was the same situation when older boys talked me into smoking pot the first time. I did it, it became a habit, and I began to experiment with other mind expanding drugs. It was a choice I made. Fortuneatly, I was delivered miraculously from that behavior, and now coffee is my crutch.

 

I Do not think you sympathize with Nazis. But I do feel that you learn a lot about a person by the side of the argument he defends.. please show me where I said you sympathize with Nazis because I don’t think you do. But if you defend the president who calls them some good people, then you are making a statement

 

I have had similar experiences with boys as well. And something in my nature told me that it was wrong. This is not necessarily about homosexuality or heterosexuality. Perhaps if it had been a cute girl you might have acted differently as I might have if it was a cute boy. This has nothing to do with homosexuality. You are confusing homosexual acts with actual homosexuality.
Obviously you made a choice to stop doing drugs. There is the god thing again He gets all the credit and none of the blame. It was your fault that you started doing drugs and it was to your credit that you stopped. Give yourself the credit

 

Renee, can't give myself credit. I argued vehemiantly for friends to show me in the Bible where it was wrong. They just laughed and said, "we can't do it, but God will in time."
Tell you what, I did it because of God's love for me and my love for Him....there is no other answer and there was no struggle or regret. I put about four pounds of quality, home grown marijuana in the garbage and didn't tell a soul. There was a transformation. How could I ever blame God? I knew that first toke was wrong, I had to suppress what I knew just like most that turn down that path. Have had offers since to take it up and I find it hilarious within my own soul that I don't have any desire ( I enjoyed it so much while I was doing it)
If someone wants to be identified as a homosexual, I find that odd unless they engage in the "act".
P.S. Renne, I would encourage you that next time George Clooney comes a knock'n.....listen to that "still small voice". LOL

 

You have traded one drug for another, one addiction for life altering slavery to even worse mind alteration. Physical harm from weed is insignificant when compared to the mental damage your newfound purposeful hallucination will impose....you have my pity.

 

You use the word might. Why might that have happened and did you like boys?

Are you suggesting that the only reason you don't like boys is because you didn't let them play cornhole with you? So you think that one instance would have made you homosexual?

If you being molested buy an older boy would have made you gay you were never straight in the first place. Most men who were molested as boys by older boys or men aren't homosexual. But you would be different? Why? Explain how it might have led two different things. It isn't in intoxicating substance you ingest or inhale. So it's not even close to pot or heroin or whatever other drugs you tried.

 

This is a subject upon which you have expertise and focus.

 

Interesting ...god made you stop...maybe he got you started? This is where I see your belief as detrimental. You are giving credit for stopping, to the supernatural, rather than giving yourself the credit for having the courage and determination to quit. You did it!
So what you are saying is that a homosexual must engage in “the act” is that how you define a heterosexual? Reduce them to sex acts. Heterosexuals have sex acts that homosexuals do also? So? Being gay or straight has to do with who you’re attracted to know what you do with them
Too late about George Clooney, he’s here but he’s with his wife and I think I am in love with her tol But I am sure she is totally threatened by me

 

No more than you.

 

Then don't automatically assume I will ever respond to your questions. I cannot force you to be right.

 

Try reading the TENTH AMENDMENT might make this a bit clearer to you.

 

Where I come from, that's called being a mealy-mouth....but I'm from Texas. You? Some NorthEast liberal city where mealy-mouthism is part of the culture? No need to answer. I'll wait for you or one of your victim feminists friends to report me and my post will be deleted and I'll be banished from the thread. Heck, if you're lucky, I'll be banned from the entire forum never to return!

Let everyone have no doubt; if I am banned, it's you Renee and your little group of friends who are the mostly likely drivers of that banishment.

 

This is an old game. Your restrictive interpretation of the tenth ignores the following "The Congress shall have Power ... To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof " which is expansive of Congressional power, but you did not distinquish between federal and State courts, so its irrelevant. You intend to ignore the arguments laid forth in decisions from 1791 forward.

Just point out the restrictive language in the constitution, discussing word definitions, or word use, or maybe you can find the word 'English' somewhere either within the Tenth Amendment or outside of it, because that was your claim.

 

You cannot show me where the Supreme Court has any jurisdiction outside of interpreting the laws. And they are NOT in charge of redefining the English language.

If we accept your view, we can send the Senate and Congress home and let the United States Supreme Court make the laws. If they can redefine the word marriage, maybe Trump can convince the Courts to call undocumented immigrants, unwanted vermin (redefining that term) and then give people the power to shoot them on sight at the border. They would not be humans after all.

 

Nobody will really address my question, watch
The Glass house, with Alan Alda 1974

Again, in prison, a young guy, not gay, very cute in a feminine way, and other men want to have sex with him, so they get him alone and use supperior strength and numbers to rape him and have anal penetration.
While this is an act of violence more than sex, I think many people that would otherwise have sex with women, will do a man or wee boy, and not think twice.
Then preach Gays will rot in hell.

And no, those men do not love women as much as wanting to get off,
I think I finally realized that.

 

The power of legislatures to define the terms within statutes, is conditional on how they use that power, just as any power they employ is. If they use it in such a way as to write laws that offend either the due process or equal protection clauses of the constitution, then they will get a nasty little slap. Maybe Trump can convince the GOP Congress to rename undocumented immigrants 'unwanted vermin' instead of people, so that laws governing homicide, rape and torture need not apply. But they don't have to be that obvious. Here is a list of legislation from not too long ago for you without the silliness of judicial 'overreach' to impede the executive and legislative branches. http://www.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Microsoft Word - 5741.pdf

 

Well...yeah Renee I don't think of myself often as a "heterosexual". I am a lot of other things I think of like a Father, a husband a Christian , an American....but if you want to describe my sexual identity, "heterosexual"fits the bill. It is an act where two sexual organs are united by opposite sexes and is done in a way that producing offspring is often the result but it is much more than that. It is a uniting of spirit and soule and knowing one another intimitely. As I said earlier and you know.....I am not marching in your parade. You say right is wrong, wrong is right, girls will be boys boys will be girls.....not my parade. Sorry.
Before you fall for Georges wife....I think you better check him out. You know how things are these days.

 

What you are giving me is opinion - which is yours to have. I have my opinion and I cited the law that gave credence to it.

I don't care whether people are on the left or the right; conservative or liberal; Democrat or Republican, IF the United States Supreme Court will rule in their favor, they can find some kind of cockamamie justification for it, no matter how many constitutional principles it violates.

And the fact is, history is cyclical. So, one day what you think the law is will be polar opposite of what it is today. Regardless, this topic was about one thing and I am still of the same opinion. So far, I've been threatened, called names, and treated in a manner our system would not visit upon a convicted criminal. It has only strengthened my resolve and planted in my conscience that I am taking the right road. Nobody here has been able to prove my opinion wrong and to say any more puts me in danger.

 

You said read the Tenth. I quoted Article 1 section 8 clause 18 "The Congress shall have Power ... To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof" and this cycle of a broader interpretation than just the expressed powers listed in the Tenth of which we speak, began in 1819 with McCulloch v. Maryland, three years shy of 200 years. That is one hell of a cycle.

 

You don’t have to identify as a heterosexual because it is assumed, and you don’t have to lie about your sexuality because of bigotry.
You once again reduce people to sex organs. And the audacity of you to imply gay people don’t “unite their spirit and soul and know one another intimately” .....as you say, you don’t march in my parade....I know you don’t. I march in the parade of respect for good people. I don’t judge people by whom they love . Gay boys are still boys and gay girls are still girls and they’re all human beings....shame on you. And then we wonder children don’t confide in their parents
What are you trying to say about Clooney?

 

Are you aware of how many times you express your fear about being reported? Relax, I won’t but since you seem obsessed with that, perhaps I should worry. Since mostly everyone here thinks like you, you don’t have to worry about “my feminist northeastern friends” . You’re sound a little paranoid...I have one friend here,,that’s it. The rest are bullies like you who high five each other .
I would say, you could sure use my workshop in prejudice awareness. I bet you don’t see your overt bigotry above.

 

They also rape for power and nothing more

 

How does one delete a post ?

 

Just report it like you and your friends usually do.

 

There’s that paranoia....I have never reported you and I don’t have friends here. Are you projecting?
I was talking about a post that I wrote and after writing it I realize that somebody else had said the same thing so I just wanted to remove it but I don’t see how to do that...