Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    I love how you create a straw man and then get carried away with it. Whoever said anything so ridiculous that pregnancy is an unnatural acts
    Do you really think that abortion will stop the continuation of the species? Stop being ridiculous what makes you think women are out of control? You really have an issue with women don’t you.
    And you keep calling a ZEF a child....it is a POTENTIAL child. It’s strange that you don’t see the difference. I have to run now and sit under my acorn to get some shade
     
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    a ZEF is the clinical terms.a ZEF is not a child...And you personify it all the time. It is a potential child ....potential potential potential!
     
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    Share the same rhetoric that I want to save lives? Do you know how wrong that sounds. You almost imply abortion is a GOOD thing? Some women used Planned Parenthood as birth control, chew on that for a minute.

    Our nation was founded on Christian principles, remember: Endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights? Divine Providence? Hello, we are a Christian nation that accepts ALL peoples in ALL walks of life. But we have a moral code to live by, and that is what liberals want to escape from more and more. They twist and manipulate the truth until it forms their narrative.

    The sickness of the abortion industry is far reaching. Like I said, abortion quotas are a common practice. Think of abortionists are car salesmen, only they are dealing in death.
    It is now confirmed that PP sells body parts. This disgusting practice is beyond words. And now they are killing babies after birth? THIS IS CALLED MURDER!
    You should take a listen.

     
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    You realize that lots of married women have abortions, right?

    You realize that married women have contraception that fails just as often as unmarried women, right?

    You understand that not all women have perfect uteruses, or are physically able to carry a fetus to term,right?

    You understand that women get raped and physically abused to the point where carrying a child to term is not physically or mentally possible, right?

    You realize there are over 16 million Americans who are dealing with mental issues, and that heightened sex drive and decreased understanding of consequences is common in such episodes, right?

    You don’t understand? Right. Cause YOU will never, EVER be faced with the fear and responsibility and potential physical and mental impact of carrying a baby to term. NEVER. EVER.
     
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    yes you are right many women use Planned Parenthood as birth control because Planned Parenthood provides all kinds of contraceptives. Do you object to that also? We are not a Christian country and it’s interesting that your icon is the star of David. We have separation of church and state and perhaps you want it to be a religious country I don’t....But it’s interesting how you support trump who is an adulterer and breaks most of the commandments .
    How nice of you to accept people of all religions. (Sarcasm alert)
    And you also don’t understand that abortionists or gynecologist and deal with all kinds of women’s issues. You really have no understanding. It is not confirm that planned parenthood cells body parts..That has been debunked over and over but people who don’t educate themselves and go to right wing sites never learn. Show us examples of where they kill babies after birth? Trump sure knows his base
     
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    Why do you always use such vile strawmen? That's extremely dishonest, extremely. The fact that you dehumanize a fetus is sick and disturbing but you use it to justify murder. Whatever helps you sleep.
     
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  8. Iron_Merc

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    Explain why having kids is selfish? Elaborate further please.

    Right, you are holding the unborn, defenseless child accountable for the mothers indiscretions. Murder and zero accountability? That will really improve your charterer... lol

    Yes, thats usually what happens when you deem something illegal. Just like you are forced NOT to engage in prostitution. You dont have total autonomy, get over it.

    Thats where you are wrong. You know the potential risks of engaging in sex with a partner BEFORE hand. First on the list is the possibility of getting pregnant. If you engage in sex you know the consequences. The act of sex is consensual for the most part yes. Wanting a baby during that act? Not unless you want to procreate. However, even if you dont want to keep the baby the consequence still fall on the mother. She is responsible for her actions and the risk of getting pregnant as a result is a very real proposition. In other words, whether she wants the baby or not the onus should still fall on her and not the defenseless new born baby.
    Only in liberal land are people not held accountable for their actions. No moral compass, as evidenced by the fact they approve the genocide of 60,000,000 "mistakes".


    I was talking in specific circumstances. But you just proved my point - women are an essential ingredient to continuation of the species and last time I checked, most women like sex.

    Every child is murdered in Gods court. Remember, we overruled the God Given right to life by approving of abortion and there will be a consequence to these actions. May not be in this life but definitely in what comes next.

    Most liberals dont see it either, its okay... just means your father is darkness.

    Not sure what universe you are in but in case you didnt notice, many females LOOK FORWARD to motherhood.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    YUP, YOUR Post 104 : "" Any women that has an abortion could be considered a barren women.""



    OOOOpsie!
    Judge Judy says " if ya don't lie ya don't need a good memory"



    That is up to each individual woman to decide.

    YOU do NOT get to decide for them :) :) :)
     
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    Your assumptions speak volumes. Forced to allow a zygote to develop??
    There is a natural order, and birth is on that list
    Abortion, however, IS NOT
     
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    Renee said:
    what does life , liberty and pursuit of happiness have to do with zygotes? Your contempt for women is very obvious because you aren’t even aware of what Planned Parenthood does. You can personify a ZEF ALL you want.... it is not a child




    NO where in that post did the poster dehumanize anything.

    Calling things by their scientific name, (although science does scare some people), is NOT dehumanizing a human.
     
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    Uh, YOU do NOT get to decide what the "natural order " is …..
     
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    Im just saying hypothetically, which is the more enriching lifestyle? Having family to share holidays with, to share life with? Becoming a grandmother? Being proud of your children?

    OR (and yes I am generalizing here for the hypothetical)

    Engaging in risky type behavior, drinking heavily and sleeping around? And getting abortions as needed to further your vain lifestyle? Because this is what abortion and planned parenthood are good at: Destroying communities, one family at a time.

    And how can you be alive and be pro choice? You cant pass the miracle of life on to the next generation??? LOL liberal paradox #2003

    And I didnt hear anyone respond to my steve jobs post... so here it is again...what if steve had been aborted?

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    It's a baby, a human being, murder.
     
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    DUHH, a human ZEF is human and NO one said itherwise.


    NO where in that post did the poster dehumanize anything.

    Calling things by their scientific name, (although science does scare some people),
    is NOT dehumanizing a human.



    And if you think murder is being done then do your civic duty and call the cops! :)
     
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    LOL... never was it a lie i just made a mistake, and didnt check my work before posting. Obviously Im not going to "hide" anything that was said previously in the thread...
     
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    Okay can we call it genocide then? Does that fit the bill? Life starts at conception and this is when new dna is created. Any attempt to claim "my choice" is wrong because there is a separate unique human being living inside you. You dont get to play God with his creation. And you've been hoodwinked by the science community... they know exactly when new life starts.

     
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    AND we now know some late term abortions are actually done after the newborn baby has been born. This is called infanticide and it is murder. PP= baby goes in the toilet.
    Desired reality: baby goes into the loving hands of her mother.

    And yes, abortion is murder. you are taking another human life without proper justification. Abortion may be legal but its not justified.
     
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    Funny how 99% of abortion supporters are athiest. I like what Reagan said "I notice all the supporters of abortion have been born already."
     
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    Uh, duh, whenever one does some thing THEY want to do it's selfish. Why do people say they have kids? " I " like kids. "I" want kids. "I", "I", "I", "I"....me, me ,me......


    ..and it's really selfish when they include others in what they want without asking them if they WANT to be their kids...





    NO, I'm not and never indicated I was..


    Was that meant to mean something???


    Ya , rapists like to use FORCE, too.


    Not sure what that means...

    So what? Consent to one act (intercourse) is NOT consent to any other act.





    Another garbled sentence…




    Yup, the one who is pregnant.... NOT YOU!
    .




    Yup, she is the one who is pregnant.... NOT YOU!



    It doesn't, the onus is on the pregnant one and NO one else.





    ONLY in Rightie Land are women considered nothing but cattle to be bred.


    :) Ya, I was waiting for the "genocide" argument from yet another Anti-Choicer who doesn't know what "genocide" means :)...you are on schedule :)


    ….and you would know that how ?????




    Well then he should stop murdering them !!!


    The Preaching Religion Forum is in another section....




    ...and your mother wears army boots...:)
    Not sure what universe you are in but in case you didn't notice , women have a right to their own bodies just like you do

    Not sure what universe you are in but in case you didn't notice what one women looks forward to isnot what another woman looks forward to....see, I know this is a shocker for you but women are INDIVIDUALS...yes, they really are not cattle but individual human beings..

    Not sure what universe you are in but in case you didn't notice , many women don't look forward to motherhood.

    (Many "females" ???)

    FoxHastings said:
    It doesn't...but FORCING her to have one IS infringing on her rights.
     
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    :) Oh DO please show the UNBIASED stats on how many women who have abortions are atheists...
     
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    YES, horribly deformed terminal babies that will die a lingering death and their mothers unselfishly let them go with an easy death instead of a long tortured death..

    Maybe some people like the idea of a seriously ill baby taking a long long time to die....






    OK, show the EXACT, UNBIASED medical records from a doctor that states the remains went into a toilet.....SHOW PROOF..





    Which is what the woman wanted but real life interfered....talk to the creep who made life so unfair that it would give a fetus or a child a horrible disease...


    Too bad....women have rights just like anyone else ….and if that makes some people upset then GOOD :)


    You altered my post in post 145.. DO NOT DO THAT AGAIN.
     
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    Here is a great video that really highlights the fact that you never need late term abortion to save a woman's life. You deliver the baby and you save both the mother and the child.



    pay close attention from 11:00 to 14:00
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :) Oh DO please show the UNBIASED stats on how many women who have abortions are atheists...



    Yes, I knew you had no proof...:)
     
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    We want to have kids is usually the discussion...Its usually a joint decision. Im sorry, whats selfish about having a family? Families require sacrifice and compromise to make work, hardly selfish if you ask me.

    And what do you mean with this phrase "without asking them if they WANT to be their kids?"
     

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