about gun control

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by alakazam, May 28, 2015.

  1. alakazam

    alakazam Banned

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    I would support a ban on assault style weapons. The ones that are already out there could be used at gun ranges, but not in a crime. and not for self-defence. Id also limit magazine capacitys on most weapons. People who had high capacity magazines already, could use them at gun ranges. for handguns i would allow 17rds..Sporting rifles and shotguns used for hunting only, 7rds..Im not the only one that would go for this. their are people who would want this. the're in the millions. just watch the polls. some would favor even harsher restrictions. but thats just too bad.:clapping:
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    Why? "Assault style" guns (and we are not talking automatic here) are not really that much more dangerous than regular guns. Gun control proponents claim civilians do not really need them, but gun rights supporters could basically ask the same question: "Do we really need these additional restrictions?" The answer to both questions is "probably not really".
     
  3. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    How many "assault rifles" or rifles of any kind are used in a crime? Are you afraid of "scary looking guns"? Seek help. I should be able to use whatever I want to defend myself as long as I don't violate the rights of the innocent.
     
  4. kgeiger002

    kgeiger002 Active Member Past Donor

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    If an assault on this Country happened....wouldn't you want the best defence/protection that is available? ...Am I talking out of my %$$??
     
  5. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What can I say. There are many dumb and misinformed people out there making and taking polls.

    So you propose some sort of Boy Scout honor system? What's going to stop the bad people? Are they going to only go to range to use their special guns and mags?

    There are already dozens of laws that forbid not only the use of guns for crimes, but also the many bans.

    But why don't the felons care? Could it be that they face little fear of being held accountable? Like, presto!

    Another thing to consider, with it so easy to modify guns to shoot full auto and make them "machine guns"---why have there been so few criminals doing this over the last 80 years???

    Wonder why?--- It's because the bad folks know the Fed really will punish them hard for even having the most "evil of evil" guns.

    Therefore, if the stupid gun banners had any extra brain cells in their warped brains, they would demand the very same enforcement and punishment for any violent felon with a previous conviction when they commit a crime with a gun---just as they would if it were a machine gun.
     
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    Cautiously Conservative New Member Past Donor

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    Seriously? You're going to try to restrict what guns criminals can use to rob and murder?

    I'm sure they're going to listen to you.

    LOL
     
  7. kgeiger002

    kgeiger002 Active Member Past Donor

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    fyi...before "the spelling police" come down on me. I realize I spelled "defense" wrong ....woo! ...niped that one in the bud!
     
  8. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Cutting through idiocy is a difficult endeavor. But it will be done regardless.

    Precisely what is "assault style" and how does it apply?

    And how do you propose keeping a criminal from using a prohibited firearm in the commission of a crime, when they are prohibited from owning a firearm in the first place, and yet still have them?

    There is no legal basis under which any form of government can prohibit the use of a legally owned firearm for self defense, simply because of how it is configured.

    And precisely how did you come up with these arbitrarily determined numbers as being adequate and sufficient? What was the methodology you utilized?

    As the old saying goes, people in hell want water. Precisely what is your point?

    The number of individuals who support greater restrictions on firearms is below fifty percent, while those that support greater firearm freedoms is above fifty percent. The polls do not favor the nonsense that you present.

    Go back to start, and try again.
     
  9. nimdabew

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    Look at my signature for a glimpse in the anti mindset.
     
  10. PirtiusDominus

    PirtiusDominus Member Past Donor

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    The entire point of Americans owning guns is not for personal protection, not for hunting....not for sport or pleasure shooting.

    It is so that the PEOPLE can maintain a well regulated militia. And while many uninformed want to believe that means a Federal military...in the context of the events that led up to the creation of the document containing that passage, it was clearly meant as a means of preventing government oppression. Had the creators of those documents foreseen the technological advances in military weaponry, there probably would have been a clause that stipulated that citizens had the right to bear not just arms, but significantly equal arms to those available to the state (meaning Federal Government).

    Sadly, many uniformed today let their own phobias and media fed misconceptions dictate their willingness to be subjects and usher in the exact tyranny the creators of this nations fundamental guiding documents address in them.

    Fools are destined to repeat past follies.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Sort of irrational thinking. Rifles (of all kinds) were only responsible for 285 out of 12,253 murders in 2013 (last year available). Doing the math, that means rifles (of all kinds including both sporting and "non-sporting evil assault type rifles") were responsible for about 2.3% of murders. Over twice as many people (686) were killed using no weapons at all.


    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...le_11_murder_circumstances_by_weapon_2013.xls
     
  12. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    define assault style weapon....exactly.
     
  13. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Spelling police are frowned upon here as well as in other forums. Those who do it look like idiots because all of us know we all "right" things very quickly and its better to get your(e) points out quickly rather than languishing on punctuation. The unwritten rule is, you are only allowed to spell police when someone attacks your spelling or intelligence and make spelling errors themselves in the process.
     
  14. kgeiger002

    kgeiger002 Active Member Past Donor

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    Thanks! I think it bolsters their egos when they do that! .okay back to topic....
     
  15. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which do you believe is more dangerous? second hand smoke or whatever your definition of assault rifles turns out to be?
     
  16. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    mebbe this?

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    or this?
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    or mebbe he's talking about one of these...
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    but I don't think they really qualify myself
     
  17. mtlhdtodd

    mtlhdtodd Well-Known Member

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    First define in exact terms what is the functional difference between a M-14 semi auto and a BAR semi auto hunting rifle, both are available in .308 caliber and are magazine fed.

    m1-a.jpg remBAR.jpg
     
  18. mtlhdtodd

    mtlhdtodd Well-Known Member

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    It's the hello kitty ar15. Just so you can say "Say hello kitty to my little friend"

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  19. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ummm........






    AWESOME!
     
  20. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    best Jon Lovitz voice: yeah, the top one, that's the tiiiicket. I own 4000 of 'em. Yeah, 4000, that's the ticket. And a gazillion .003 cal bullets too. Yeah......
    You can substitute Lovitz for Chris Titus :roflol:
     
  21. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes and Ill be shooting that with my wife....eh.....Morgan Fairchild....yeah yeah thats it, Morgan Fairchild!
    Is she still hot btw?
     
  22. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    hell I don't know................... :roflol:
     
  23. vino909

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    Hilarius!!! Criminals are criminals because they refuse and avoid being regulated. They ignore the laws,.. you think they will abide by regulations???? LMAO!!!!!
     
  24. der wüstenfuchs

    der wüstenfuchs Member

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    Ban guns for use in crime? That's brilliant! Why has nobody ever thought of that before! If we make it a crime to murder someone with a gun that will definitely deter murder! I'll bet the FBI crime stats will drop by 90% the year after that law is enacted!

    Oh right, the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 has already been statistically proven to not save lives. Violent crime hit a peak in 1992. By 93 it was already coming down. When the executive order was passed in 1994 crime kept going down. When the ban expired in 2004 crime was still coming down. It doesn't end there though. In the years from 2005-2013 when it was still perfectly legal to get those scary looking guns you are so afraid of the trend of declining crime continues. If I recall the data from 2014 is still being compiled but I'm confident after 22 years of declining crime rates the trend will likely continue regardless of the fact I can get an AR-15 with 100 round drum mags.

    Oh but it's so scary to have an AR-15 with a pistol grip and a barrel shroud! We should only allow AR-15s with a rifle grip and no spooky looking accessories. Do it for the children! That's what your precious assault weapon ban is all about. It just targets cosmetic features and not actual functionality. It's like banning a dodge charger because Joe Dirt installed a foot shaped gas pedal. It's like banning a mustang for having leather upholstery instead of cloth.

    Then there are your capacity opinions. Opinions are like buttholes. Both of yours are so full of (*)(*)(*)(*) I'll bet it's making your hair brown. Just because you don't like my G17 holding 30 rounds doesn't mean I should be forced to hold fewer. You're entitled to your opinion about capacity laws and I am allowed the opinion that it's stupid. The Federal AWB limited all gun capacities to 10 rounds and as I mentioned before it wasn't proven to help at all.
     
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    there really was a poster in here that said that.......really. He's not around, much, anymore
     

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