About the Holocaust

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    I'm only 32. Nice try though.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    definitely check out this video, these are not revisionists,

    these are holocaust survivors!



    something everyone should download.

    Most people are literally shocked to find out the prisoners could buy beer in a death camp and hitler gave them money regardless if they worked or not. I was!

    it makes the evangelists for the holocaust religion cult cringe!
     
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    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Ye I watched it last week. The theatres and pianos?
     
  4. pitbull

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    There might be some scammers trying to make money off their fake past. :(
    But that doesn't affect the whole story.

    Holocaust history is mostly correct. The casualty figures are also correct.
     
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    Jewish scammers?
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yeh grand piano in block one and the ss men helping the prisoners prepare to put on a play.
    they were actually allowed to travel from camp to camp on the train if a different camp had some entertainment they wanted to see. Then the soccer teams, and the orchestras that went from barracks to barracks.
    It was like a mini society, they had to have tickets to go to these events.
    If you want a good read read the wannasse conference.
    Its said to be the secret document where hitler planned to exterminate (as in kill) all the jews.

    It was all made up!

    This is how the story was sold:

    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/wannsee-conference-and-the-final-solution

    This is the original german:
    https://www.ghwk.de/fileadmin/Redaktion/PDF/Konferenz/protokoll-januar1942_barrierefrei.pdf

    Here is a good translation of the original german
    https://www.ghwk.de/fileadmin/Redak...English_translation_wannsee_protocol_2020.pdf
    https://www.ghwk.de/en/conference/protocol-and-documents


    Here is the bastardized American translation on the ushmm and other american sites, its been obfuscated and is a euphemized translation which does not have the same meaning! https://holocaust.umd.umich.edu/news/uploads/WanseeProtocols.pdf
     
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    Jewish or not. They want to make themselves more important and improve their income.
    :(
     
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    Who to believe heh.
     
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    Now that is an unheard narrative.
     
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    False the scammers are trying to make money by evangelizing the holocaust industry, its mostly incorrect.




    The forensic evidence uncovered at the camps corroborates these stories:




    The holocaust industry evangelists are the scammers, these people had everything to lose and nothing to gain by going against the official lies as everyone can now see.
     
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    Oh.... its because everyone tells people what to believe, that it means exterminate (as in kill all the Jews) so no one actually reads what it really says!

    They use trick words to deceive and in America exterminate means to kill, so they substituted exterminate for deport and sold it to americans so they could justify paying trillions in reparations.

    Read the wannassee conference, the actual translation, hitler only wanted to deport the Jews them nothing more, and he even went so far as to set up old age settlements for the elderly and disabled. Its all in there.

    Hell he even had 150,000 Jews in his armed forces, some very high ranking officers too!

    So much for the kill all the Jews narrative!
     
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    Yes we know all about the holocaust industry in your link.
    We have heard that same nonsense all our lives!

    My previous posts prove "exterminate"/"genocide"/"systematic-mass-murder" is all made up to extort money.


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    its all in the open since russia released the info from their national archives.

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    Your posts did prove nothing.
    You're just parroting the lies of Holocaust deniers. :(
     
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    False, the forensic material evidence corroborates the version I posted not yours, therefore what you said has been long proven not true.
     
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    Don't be led astray, seek the truth
     
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    A former Atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm, specifically asked the Being of Light of near death experience fame about why the Holocaust had been allowed to occur. The reply that they got seemed to be playing around in the Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, or King Solomon level for insight!


     
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    God was catastrophically irate at JEWS before the Holocaust?

    I don't believe the comments given come close to answering the question.

    The result of the Holocaust was the formation of Israel, a major nation DEDICATED to believing that Jesus is NOT the son of God and that the other two branches of the Abrahamic faith are apostate.

    If you believe THAT was God's objective, then YOU need to change your religion, don't you?
     
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    15 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,

    16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

    17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

    18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

    19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

    20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

    21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

    22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

    23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

    24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

    25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

    26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

    27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

    28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.


    Step by step... all of this is happening.... and more.....

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel 37&version=KJV


    Luke 24:25
    "Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:"
     
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    How does this apply to the Holocaust???

    I think you're dodging.
     
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    This applies to the existence of the nation of Israel.... and the future of that nation.... which could assist you to understand some of what has been bothering you.
     
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    You haven't been able to answer my post #3143 concerning the Holocaust.

    I'm still interested. But, I think you can't refute what I said.

    I don't see a way to interpret the Holocaust as God's retribution, unless Judaism is the one true religion.

    the Holocaust almost immediately resulted in the unification and strengthening of Judaism.

    Did god not expect that?
     
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    Human beings have a wide range of choices ahead of all of us each day.....

    ... the choices that were made by the people who organized The Holocaust was NOT the will of the Creator... but......
    because the Creator has given us humans freedom of choice.... history is full of events that were not the will of the Creator....... [with the exception that our Creator willed that we have genuine freedom of choice].

    A vastly better world is coming... but our Creator will have to decrease human freedom of choice to create the utopia that was predicted in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, the Minor Prophets and the Psalms.... as well as was shown to near death experiencer and former Atheist Howard Storm.



    https://near-death.com/howard-storm-nde/

     
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    Yes. I do NOT believe the Holocaust can be described as an act of the Abrahamic god.

    That site still includes a passive view:
    "I asked, Why does God let things like this happen? They told me that God was very unhappy with the course of human history and was going to intervene to change the world. God had watched us sink to depths of depravity and cruelty at the very time that he was giving us the instruments to make the world a godlier world. "

    This still ascribes the Holocaust as a studied inaction by God.

    More than that, the Bible says God helped the Israelites in slaughtering every man, woman, child and animal in order to allow them to steal the land. Is it a surprise that today Israel bulldozes the homes of Palestinians, steals their water rights, and wrecks other atrocities on Palestinians for profit?

    Surely that hit's Israel as fully consistent with the Bible.

    I don't see any real rational analysis of Gods actions on Earth. The closest seems to be our Deist founders who believed God created this universe and then stepped back.
     
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    But the really good news is that over these next two centuries our Creator will intervene.......
    in a whole new way.


    https://near-death.com/howard-storm-nde/

     
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