About the Holocaust

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  1. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    No. I am Ashkenazim Jew. Jews are not European.
     
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    The wrongs of Communism have been greatly exaggerated. I lived in USSR up to 1983 -- there was normal life -- nothing horrible. USSR after Stalin was not Totalitarian.
     
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    The excesses of Communism are vastly exaggerated. There were human rights violations, but not nearly on the scale of Nazism.
     
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    Joseph Stalin, who died 60 years ago in Moscow, was a small man -- no more than 5-foot-4. The abused son of a poor, alcoholic Georgian cobbler, Josef Vissarionovich Djughashvili (the future Stalin) also had a withered arm, a clubbed foot and a face scarred by small pox, but he stood very tall as one of history’s most prolific killers.

    Stalin’s extremely brutal 30-year rule as absolute ruler of the Soviet Union featured so many atrocities, including purges, expulsions, forced displacements, imprisonment in labor camps, manufactured famines, torture and good old-fashioned acts of mass murder and massacres (not to mention World War II) that the complete toll of bloodshed will likely never be known.

    An amoral psychopath and paranoid with a gangster’s mentality, Stalin eliminated anyone and everyone who was a threat to his power – including (and especially) former allies. He had absolutely no regard for the sanctity of human life.

    But how many people is he responsible for killing?


    In February 1989, two years before the fall of the Soviet Union, a research paper by Georgian historian Roy Aleksandrovich Medvedev published in the weekly tabloid Argumenti i Fakti estimated that the death toll directly attributable to Stalin’s rule amounted to some 20 million lives (on top of the estimated 20 million Soviet troops and civilians who perished in the Second World War), for a total tally of 40 million.

    ''It's important that they published it, although the numbers themselves are horrible,'' Medvedev told the New York Times at the time.
    https://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789

    doesnt look to vastly to me.
     
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    Communists didn't try to exterminate whole ethnic groups (Slavs, Jews, Roma) using industrial methods like the Nazis. But they murdered far more people than the Hitler gangsters did.

    It's up to you what you find more disgusting.
    I find both equally repulsive.
     
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    Re:
    What "industrial methods"?

    Do you mean like the fictitious "Conveyor Belt Of Death"?


    "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces.
    One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED
     
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    what nazi war criminals? rothschild? Morganthau? Herzl? Gurion? Baldour? Churchhill? Eisenhower?


    Too bad you never experienced the hate filled anti germanism from the semites.


    Semetic HATE filled Marxi-Commie-Zionist J-Ws call for the

    EXTERMINATION AND GENOCIDAL MURDER of ALL GERMANS.


    Full text of "Kaufman, Theodore - Germany must Perish (1941)"

    Germany Must Perish!

    by Theodore N. Kaufman
    Newark, N.J., Argyle press
    Copyright 1941
    Library’ of Congress Call No.: DD222.K3

    GERMANY MUST PERISH!

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    Kaufman's fervent proposal for the systematic sterilization of the entire German population was given respectful attention in the American press, including reviews in a number of newspapers. A review in the weekly Time
    magazine, March 24, 1941, called Kaufman's plan a "sensational idea."
    https://archive.org/stream/KaufmanTheodoreGermanyMustPerishEN194135P./Kaufman,+Theodore+-+Germany+must+Perish+(EN,+1941,+35+p.)_djvu.txt

    As it was Britain and France who actually declared war (involving themselves in a regional conflict to expand it into an international blood-bath) and the United States was not yet officially involved, moral arguments had to be found to prepare the collective mind of Americans. Kaufman calls for world peace and says that the extermination of the German people is the precondition for that.

    We must remember that this ideology of genocidal extermination and persecution of an entire people, came from a very politically influential Jewish mind, supported by all the worlds influential Jewish organisation’s and expanded into western policy, then agreed by Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt with the Morgenthau Plan… with some final minor adjustments.

    The language is Jewish, the ideology is Jewish, it was written by someone with a blinding racial and genocidal hatred toward a whole people, the German people – which history has shown us to be one of the finest, most creative, ingenuitive and refined, decent people on earth – a combination of qualities, which would perhaps, pose a threat to certain political, economical and geographical interests?

    It is only fair that the language is turned back on those who supported the mass murder and ‘PERSECUTION’ of the Germans, a clear premeditated intent to commit ‘Crimes Against Humanity‘ based on this very book and then legislated by the ‘Victors’ with the Morgenthau Plan.

    So how would the hateful intent of this Jewish literature be received if we simply exchanged the words, ‘Hitler’ for ‘Netanyahu’ – ‘Nazi’s’ for ‘Zionists’‘Germans’ for ‘Jews’ and ‘Germany’ for ‘Israel’ etc?

    Let’s see how it looks…

    “Today’s wars are not wars against Benjamin Netanyahu. Nor are they wars against the Zionists… Benjamin Netanyahu is no more to be blamed for these Israeli wars than was Sharon for the last one. Nor Begin before. These men did not originate or wage Israel’s wars against the world. They were merely the mirrors reflecting centuries-old inbred lust of the Jewish nation for conquest and mass murder. These wars are being waged by the Jewish people. It is they who are responsible. It is they who must be made to pay for the wars. …This time Israel has forced a TOTAL WAR upon the world. As a result, she must be prepared to pay a TOTAL PENALTY.

    And there is one, and only one, such Total Penalty, Israel must perish forever!
    In fact – not in fancy!”

    […]
    “Then why does war still exist?
    Simply because it has not been made impossible for it to be waged.
    There is only one way to abolish war: impose a penalty of such dire magnitude and frightful consequence upon aggressor peoples as to render it virtually impossible for any nation to start a war.”

    https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/germany-must-perish/


    Oh Wait thats right, I forgot, you 2 are in Germany, you have to defend the Holohoax to your dying breath and post the Zionist LIES out here or they will throw your asses in jail, like they did to everyone else who told truth that lives in germany! LOL :icon_shithappens:

    So why are you on a board with amerians when you are forced to post lies in the name of Zion?

    Do they really expect their people to endure the level of embarrassment of the alleged J-W holocaust proven to be bullshit on every last line item count?
     
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    Death factories. :(

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    German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas:
     
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    The reason was Adolph Hitler. He dragged the whole German people into the dirt.
     
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    bullshit, thats a railroad track, I dont see any death, please point out all the death that you think you see in that picture.
    Yeh sure and if we held a moments silence for every innocent german that the Zionist J-Ws murdered in cold blood, in one day, and we have the records, the silence would last well over 10 years.
    Now that would be an outright lie.

    Reference Documents
    ADM 1/8545/312: Admiralty paper on blockade and economic warfare, 1918.
    CAB 1/15/1: Cabinet paper on blockade of Germany, Jan 1916.
    FO 371/2679: Germany and war, 1916, including material on escalating food shortages in Germany.
    FO 845/1-11: Ministry of Blockade: Restriction of Enemy Supplies Department, 1916-19.
    FO 902/40-41: Ministry of Blockade, 1917-18.
    WO 158/552-553: Captured German documents on blockade, 1914-15.



    [GERMAN] Starvation and disease

    Such schemes, however, enjoyed only limited success. The average daily diet of 1,000 calories was insufficient even for small children. Disorders related to malnutrition - scurvy, tuberculosis and dysentery - were common by 1917.

    Official statistics attributed nearly 763,000 wartime deaths in Germany to starvation caused by the Allied blockade. This figure excluded the further 150,000 German victims of the 1918 [​IMG]influenza pandemic, which inevitably caused disproportionate suffering among those already weakened by malnutrition and related diseases.

    Although the blockade made an important contribution to the Allied victory, many of its devastating side effects cast a long shadow over post-war German society.

    [​IMG]
    Starving inhabitants of Berlin


    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/firstworldwar/spotlights/blockade.htm

    The reason was scumbag marxi-commie-zionist J-Ws comitting genocide through their proxies.

    Germany found out that the scumbag zionists stabbed them in the back and brought america into a war germany won, then starved them out, but todays germans have been so horribly Zio-whipped that if a Zionist-J-W wants to steal their wallet they must offer the scumbag their car and wife too, and then tank them for the honor that a Zionist pig would choose them to steal from. :icon_shithappens:
     
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    You people cant stand the truth its like holding a cross up to satan in the movies, it burns a hole in your souls and all the propaganda and lies you post. Germany was taken from starvation to wealth and riches in only a few years under hitler, something NO other country was able to accomplish.

    This was a devastating and terrifying blow to the Zionist J-W western economic models and it had to be contained at all costs. This is why 1/3 of the chez voted for hitler and demanded annexation to germany contrary to the criminally imposed treaty of versailles on germany.

    hitler put renters into their own homes, and cheap cars for transpotation, food back on the table, the very opposite of what the marxi-commie-zionist J-Ws did for the germans after saving them from the russians by letting them in their country in the first place!



    Unemployment in Germany

    Total
    January 1933
    - 6 million
    January 1934 -
    3.3 million
    January 1935
    - 2.9 million
    January 1936
    - 2.5 million
    January 1937
    - 1.8 million
    January 1938
    - 1.0 million
    January 1939
    - 302,000

    The average factory worker was earning 10 times more than those on dole money and few complained – though to do so was fraught with potential difficulties.

    The leisure time of the workers was also taken care of. An organisation called “Kraft durch Freude” (KdF) took care of this. Ley and the KdF worked out that each worker had 3,740 hours per year free for pursuing leisure activities – which the state would provide. The activities provided by the state were carefully and systematically recorded. For the Berlin area (1933-38) :

    Cheap holidays and the offer of them was a good way to win the support of the average person in the street. A cruise to the Canary Islands cost 62 marks – easily affordable to many though most cruises were taken up by Nazi Party officials. Walking and skiing holidays in the Bavarian Alps cost 28 marks. A two-week tour of Italy cost 155 marks.

    The KdF also involved itself in introducing a scheme whereby the workers could get a car. The Volkswagen – People’s Car – was designed so that most could afford it. The Beetle, designed by Ferdinand Porsche, cost 990 marks. This was about 35 weeks wages for the average worker. To pay for one, workers went on a hire purchase scheme. They paid 5 marks a week into an account.

    Type of Event Number of events Number of people involved

    Theatre performances
    21,146 - 11,507,432
    Concerts
    989 - 705,623
    Hikes
    5,896 - 126,292
    Sports Events
    388 - 1,432,596
    Cultural events
    20,527 - 10,518,282
    Holidays and cruises
    1,196 - 702,491
    Museum tours
    61,503 - 2,567,596
    Exhibitions
    93 - 2,435,975
    Week-end trips
    3,499 - 1,007,242
    Courses/Lectures at the German Adult Education Office
    19,060 - 1,009,922


     
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    I like your humor, Kokomojojo! You're unbeatable!
    It was bad! Three of my father's siblings all died of tuberculosis after the war and up into the 1920s.
    My mother-in-law substituted her diet with tulip bulbs!!
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    The number of people who died from Communist excesses throughout 20th Century is about 12 million.

    Communism built Soviet Superpower. Communism saved Humankind from Nazis. Many Communist Societies were not Totalitarian.
     
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    His humor is especially funny for readers who lost relatives in the holocaust.
    Holocaust deniers don't know any empathy or humanity. They would sell their parents and children for a handful of dollars.
     
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    It was a little bit more ...
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    The Soviet Russkies freed Germany from Nazism but immediately enslaved its eastern part. Their reign of terror lasted 40 years.

    Communism can only exist by force and lies. Communism needs a powerful state and secret police to control every aspect of life of the citizens. Communists also rob the wealthy. They prefer a dictatorship of a so-called "working class". Nobody wants the Communist absence of freedom, so the party has to enforce it violently.
     
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    dood there was nothing there but a damn railroad track, there are no factories in A-B.
    I do not deny the holocaust that is a bold faced lie!
    The J-Ws slaughtered the germans burning them alive in their holocaust ritual.

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    I told you that, why do you continue to post those lies?

    Thats death, not some assinine picture of railroad tracks to a housing unit.

    Thats what the bodies looked like after they were holocausted by the J-Ws.

    Its a well known fact J-Ws were treated far better in the camps than the poles!

    Oh yeh, thats right, you think only J-Ws lost loved ones in world war 2.

    Dresden is proof it was the germans who were victims of the J-W holocaust burning ritual to atone for their sins and they even told everyone they were going to starve and then holocaust them 25 years before the war!

    How would you like to be thrown on a bar b q grill and your ass roasted like the J-Ws did to the germans in the picture?

    They did that to 250,000 innocent noncombatant people in one night in only one of several cities!

    Most J-Ws that died in ww2 died from the same thing that took out most of the camp guards, and german administration, typhus!
     
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    Dresden proved what happens to a dictator's country who waged war against half of the world.
    The Hitlerists wanted "total war". So they were given what they were begging for.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportpalast_speech
     
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    Correct in as much as the Nazis believed in Ayrian supremacy a racist doctrine.

    Germany was not a democratic state from 1933 after the Reichstag Fire Decree, the Nazis never acheived an overall majority, but were part of a conservative coallition by which they gained power. Freedom opf speach (which you think is so important) was effectively stopped from 1933 onwards.

    Also you are incorrect to suggest Zionist Jews were responsable for the boycott of Nazi Germany it was expressly not zionist jews, they in actual fact formed a pact with Hitler the Haavara agreement.

    Hitler set Germany on a war economy which was unsustanable without wars of conquest 1/3rd of the Chez were ethnic Germans that is why the voted for annexation and there was nothing illegal about the treaty of versailles, I wonder why you suggest it was criminally imposed?

    Again Hitlers economy would of failed without war, cheep cars are a myth only a few were ever produced by the begining of WW2, Volkswagon was a post war success largely due to a British Officer! Even as it stands huge groups were excluded from the workforce starting with the Jews and also later women were also excluded. The only year that average wages equalled those of 1928 was in in 1934 all other years the average wage was less! By 1939 22% of workers were working in arms related industries. Basically the economic miricle was smoke and mirrors which is obvious to anyone who takes the time to look at the facts.
     
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    Germans had the option of saving part of their salary for a Volkswagen. But Hitler lied to them.
    The money was used to fund the military and armor for Hitler's long-planned war.
     
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    Exactly the Nazi Economic miricle was nothing but a myth, paid for by a huge deficit that without expansion would of caused Germany's economic collapse within a few years.
     
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    A simple photograph of part of Auschwitz is not proof that anyone was executed in an "industrialized" manner.

    Please show where anyone was executed via homicidal gas chambers, steam chambers, electrocution chambers or other fictitious means fabricated by the multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry to deceive millions.

    Meanwhile, former inmates who have the courage & integrity to tell the truth contradict the highly paid liars hired by the Holocaust Industry to tell falsehoods about mythical gas chambers and other non existent contraptions.



    "Auschwitz Was NOT a 'Death Camp' - Holocaust Survivor Testimony"
    https://archive.org/details/AuschwitzWasNotAdeathCamp-HolocaustSurvivorTestimony

    EXCERPT "Investigations of physical evidence and original documentation, however, have cast doubts on the Holocaust narrative that has been formed. For example, areas claimed to be mass graves, have been found with modern investigative technology to contain no human remains. Testimonies of accused perpetrators show evidence of outright fabrication, or were obtained through torture. Many of the supposed eyewitnesses have provided stories riddled by inconsistencies, describe physically impossible events, or were even total frauds who were never actually in the camps."CONTINUED

    -------------------------------------------------------

    If the Germans were busily beating, starving and gassing inmates all day, why does one former inmate admit the fact that:
    "The Germans, contrary to what a lot of people think, were pretty good to us on the whole."


    "The Auschwitz goalkeeper: British prisoner of war who played in football match at Nazi death camp returns to bury the past"
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2443738/The-Auschwitz-goalkeeper-British-prisoner-war-makes-poignant-return-Nazi-death-camp.html

    EXCERPTS "During the week prisoners were employed at forced labour camps, but on their rest day they were allowed to play football on a field just outside the camp - with armed German guards watching from the sidelines.

    Father-of-one Ron said: “We didn’t work on a Sunday so we used to play football.'

    The Red Cross heard about it and brought the teams four sets of shirts - English, Scottish, Irish and Welsh.

    'There was the humiliation and the lack of food but on the whole life wasn’t too bad.'

    'The Germans, contrary to what a lot of people think, were pretty good to us on the whole.' "CONTINUED
     
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    You have to stick your head in the sand to deny what happened in the many work and death camps in Germany.
     
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    You're right. This is no proof.

    If you're really interested in what happened at the Birkenau killing site in detail, please read this: https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/pressac/technique-and-operation/

    It's a very large document but a must for all those seriously interested in Holocaust history.
     
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