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After AR15's are banned, then what?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by trickyricky, Jun 21, 2016.

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  1. Pardon_Me

    Pardon_Me Banned

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    Interesting link . Glad he took that murderer down but:

    "There were 26 dead and 20 injured. One victim was 77. Another was eighteen months old. Eight of those murdered were children. One victim was pregnant. Three married couples died together, as did a set of three young siblings. A family Willeford had known for years, the Holcombes, lost nine members."

    Oddly enough, the article never mentions the weapon of choice used by the mass murderer. /s

    Maybe because the shooter used a Ruger AR-556, a variant of the ever popular AR-15 rifle?
     
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    Pardon_Me, Aug 27, 2019
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  2. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    You don't have to have a valid argument to own one that's the thing. If we want to start forcing folks to justify their reasons for owning things then that's a rabbit hole we surely don't want to actually go down as a society, especially when it comes to Rights.

    Many people do have valid reasons to own them by the way, it's prime hunting season right now and about half of the folks out here bagging Caribou are doing it with AR style rifles in various calibers. Sure they could hunt with a Remington bolt action or something but as I said if we start making people justify their reasons for owning something then that's a can of worms we may not want to open.

    Why do I own semi-auto rifles? Because I want to, that's all. I don't hunt because I'm lazy, I don't use them for home defense I have a shotgun for that, I don't use them for self defense for obvious reasons. I use them mainly to dispose of household items in a more pleasurable way than tossing them in the dumpster and practice my skills by seeing how accurate I can be with iron sights at paper targets at varying distances. In other words, it's fun, head out to the range with my buddy as I did the past weekend and bring a bunch of ammo and shoot up random stuff for a few hours as a hobby.

    I can't give a valid reason why I NEED AK's and AR's any more than anyone can give a valid reason why they own a sports car. I had a 10 second Mustang drag car that I built and used to primarily drive to the grocery store and goof off with on random empty backroads. I had no valid reason to have a 500hp car any more than I have a valid reason to have an AK-47. It's fun, and it's a hobby of mine, and I'm not hurting anyone.

    I'd be willing to give up my hobby of owning and shooting guns as long as we apply this mentality to everything. No picking and choosing and no being hypocritical. Look at the raw data, no emotions, no politicizing, no bias. If US citizens own and operate anything at all that directly leads to as many or more deaths as AR-15s then ban it unless you can provide a valid reason why you NEED it. We do that and I'll give up my guns. Deal?

    I'll start. Sports cars were misused by their owners and directly lead to the deaths of more Americans than AR-15s last year, and the year before that. They go first.
     
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  3. Pardon_Me

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    So what? Yours is a "typical" liberal, " fck the people who get killed I want my way" argument.
     
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  4. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How typical, no facts to argue, running on emotion and then tossing out personal attacks.

    You are now ignored.
     
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  5. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Pray tell. Why should any private citizen, actually be required to present a valid reason for either why or how they choose to legally exercise their constitutional rights, in a manner that differs from how others may choose to exercise their constitutional rights?

    Said AR-15 was technically government property since it was not privately owned, but rather it was the property of the law enforcement agency that employed Daniel Shaver.

    The second amendment does not cover acts of murder. Therefore these individuals were not merely exercising their constitutional rights at the time they went on to kill others for their own reasons.
     
    Xenamnes, Aug 28, 2019
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