After Mueller testimony, Jerry Nadler talks next steps of holding Trump administration accountable

I have used screen shots of the Mueller report that proves to me few if any Democrats read the report. But you are quite accurate.

 

Well, if we were talking about your offer to give me info about Hillary in possession of the Russian government we'd be engaged in a conspiracy to violate the laws Mueller mentions when he covers the Trump Tower meeting. Ultimately, for reasons having to do with Donnie J's ignorance of the law and the difficulty in assigning a monetary value to the info that was offered Mueller declined to charge Donnie. But..........as you know........attempted conspiracy is the legal equivalent of a conspiracy so.............good thing Donnie J is a dope.

 

Show the screen shot you want used.

Legal discussions, and what are other than legal, can you mean?

 

Okay. Post the part where Mueller discusses why he didn't charge Donnie J over the Tower meeting.

 

FAIR ENOUGH

However the Russian did not being up issues concerning Hillary.

So you believe Fusion was a conspiracy to defeat Trump?

Mueller alleges he looked at everything.

Mueller did plenty of charging. But nothing to do with working with the Russians.

Mueller had a good case against Fusion and Steele. I hear no Democrat wanting those two charged.

 

Donnie got nothing from the Russian lawyer. Cite the page if you can't post it since I can.

 

Vol. I, page 185

b. Application to June 9 Trump Tower Meeting
The Office considered whether to charge Trump Campaign officials with crimes in connection with the June 9 meeting described in Volume I, Section IV.A.5, supra. The Office concluded that, in light of the government's substantial burden of proof on issues of intent ("knowing" and "willful"), and the difficulty of establishing the value of the offered information, criminal charges would not meet the Justice Manual standard that "the admissible evidence will probably be sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction." Justice Manual§ 9-27.220. In brief, the key facts are that, on June 3, 2016, Robert Goldstone emailed Donald Trump Jr., to pass along from Emin and Aras Agalarov an "offer" from Russia's "Crown prosecutor" to "the Trump campaign" of "official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to [Trump Jr. 's] father." The email described this as "very high level and sensitive information" that is "part of Russia and its government's support to Mr. Trump-helped along by Aras and Emin." Trump Jr. responded: "if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer." Trump Jr. and Emin Agalarov had follow-up conversations and, within days, scheduled a meeting with Russian representatives that was attended by Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner. The communications setting up the meeting and the attendance by high-level Campaign representatives support an inference that the Campaign anticipated receiving derogatory documents and information from official Russian sources that could assist candidate Trump's electoral prospects. This series of events could implicate the federal election-law ban on contributions and donations by foreign nationals, 52 U.S.C. § 3012 l(a)(l )(A). Specifically, Goldstone passed along an offer purportedly from a Russian government official to provide "official documents and information" to the Trump Campaign for the purposes of influencing the presidential election. Trump Jr. appears to have accepted that offer and to have arranged a meeting to receive those materials. Documentary evidence in the form of email chains supports the inference that Kushner and Mana fort were aware of that purpose and attended the June 9 meeting anticipating the receipt of helpful information to the Campaign from Russian sources. The Office considered whether this evidence would establish a conspiracy to violate the foreign contributions ban, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371 ; the solicitation of an illegal foreignsource contribution; or the acceptance or receipt of "an express or implied promise to make a

 

Odd how the RW is attacking a lifelong R who served his country most his entire life, to defend a draft dodging, ***** grabbing, disgrace of a human waste who partied with pedophile and sex trafficker Jeffery Epstein.

...Mueller was born to wealth and attended elite institutions — St. Paul’s School, Princeton University, the University of Virginia School of Law — but felt compelled to serve his country. During the Vietnam War, when most of his classmates were avoiding the draft, he volunteered for the Marine Corps and earned numerous decorations leading a rifle platoon in fierce combat.
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Later, as FBI director under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, Mueller became the embodiment of the old-school G-man who only wore a white shirt with a red or blue tie — never a blue shirt, because that would signal dangerous frivolity. He “avoided the limelight” and “frustrated his speechwriters by crossing out every ‘I’ in speeches they wrote for him. It wasn’t about him, he told them: ‘It’s about the organization.’ ”

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Trump combines the hedonism of the 1970s with the bigotry and sexism of the 1950s: the worst of both worlds. His consciousness was not raised in the 1960s, but his libido was. He did not take part in the civil rights or antiwar movements and won five draft deferments — including one for “bone spurs” — so that he could devote his life to the pursuit of women and wealth. He later said that fear of catching a sexually transmitted disease was “my personal Vietnam.”
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...47dd2df3829_story.html?utm_term=.e6ce75a97e40

 

Yep...mueller and the fbi knew they had no case hence they didn’t bring the charge. This wasn’t Lynch directing the fbi not to change before an investigation was even concluded. This is years of investigating and determining there was no case.

 

What the hell is this. Jerry Nadler is no R and that is not Nadlers biography.

You responded to this.
Zorro said: ↑
Fat Jerry tilts at the windmill

 

But I didn't. I'm fully aware of what is in the report on this matter. It's why I made the distinction of saying Mueller found no collusion that rose to the level of a criminal conspiracy as he defines it. Which means it's wrong to say he found no collusion.

 

Only in cases like this will Democrats rush to defend men in combat.

But this reply is not about the correct party. The party named by Zorro was Jerry Nadler.

I was drafted.

Start there. Bill Clinton is a true draft dodger.

Let me prove the point.,

Bill Clinton worked out a sweet deal to become an officer and stay in college. That part is not dodging the draft.

Bill Clinton however never intended to serve as an Officer. He caught a flight to England to attend an English university.

It took a presidential pardon to clear his name.

Trump also went to college. And to be excused due to health, while it is claimed to be bone spurs, has anybody yet provided proof?

We have documents proving the Clinton case.

 

And Mueller found no reason to prosecute the president either.

 

So what? I don't really care what D's may or may not do. I dislike D's as much as R's.
But thx for your defense of tRUMP and dismay of Meuller. Just like the story says.

 

Lets check that and go here.

If we are in the same shape yet the topic is the Steel Dossier put together by Russian people, Does it frighten you to know how hard Russia worked for Hillary?

 

But you did not say that upfront. My defense of Trump is elementary at most. I happened to speak of my service along with Clinton.

Mueller was hired to do a job. Few if any of us are running him down. We may run down how he handled his appearance. But the man we call honest.

 

Incorrect. He found ample evidence of obstruction but could not prosecute due to OLC guidelines.

 

Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar. He didn’t just catch a plane to England to avoid the draft....Lol...Clinton views about the Vietnam war changed along with most college students of that era. I am not aware that he was charged with draft evasion and needed a pardon. Even if he did, I don’t have a problem with people who avoided the draft because they believed the war was unjust and predicated on lies. However I do have a problem with guys like Cheney, Limbaugh, Trump and others who disparaged the anti war protestors and faked their way out of serving. Mueller could have deferred his way out too or gotten daddy’s doctor to fake an injury for him, but instead, he interrupted his college education at Princeton and joined the Marines. He is what my old man used to call A STAND UP GUY. Trump, not so much, Clinton not so much.

 

So what you are saying is that you only trust war mongers.

 

No, what I am saying is that Bob Mueller is a stand up guy. He believed in what his country was doing and sacrificed his personal goals and risked his life for it. I also highly respect Muhammad Ali, who objected to the war for religious and political reasons then risked his freedom and his career to stand up for what he believed in. Another stand up guy of the highest order and a great American. See what I mean now?

 

Clinton fled to a college in England. Draft laws did not provide us with "if we did not like war, we got to dodge the draft"

I do not consider marines unique at all. They have military missions so train for those but wars are won in the back country not on a beach.

Clinton had a sweetheart deal but managed to screw that up.

Mueller was an officer. They have ample privileges.

Take Kerry while on this. Kerry was an officer. But when in Vietnam, learned of a special rule for officers not available to the rest of the men. The rule was if he got 3 alleged war wounds, he could be released from combat so he fudgeded the system.

 

So anyone that serves is to be lionized forever no matter what they do after?

 

I admire the free spirit way you see things. But the Feds, the boys in DC making up laws do not create laws working like that. You only know a small bit about Mueller but apparently believe he has a personal vendetta against the president so you like him a lot.

 

Funny how Hillary and the DNC can get away with paying for Russian dirt to affect an election but Trump can't get away with not conspiring with Russia.