Ahmaud Arbery case: Black armed militias gathered outside the courthouse, issue warning

Ain't the 2nd Amendment and open carry beautiful things to bear witness to? The Rittenhouse Doctrine applies to all...

 

I think these Black members are acting out of a sense of Libertarianism and trying to stand up for the civil rights they believe individuals should be entitled to, but unfortunately they're not sophisticated enough to be able to articulate that or realize what it is they actually want.

To create a situation where the death of Arbery was not justified, I think many laws and established ways of doing things would have to be changed. Those protesters do not fully realize the implications of everything they want.

And the Democrats/Progressives are never truly going to give it to them, and will keep misleadingly framing this in terms of "racism".

Imagine this was police who had stopped Arbery.
What laws and policies would need to be changed to have prevented this outcome?

 

We have seen more and more police officers in the line of duty found guilty of killing an unarmed civilian. Rightfully so in many cases. These men could have called authorities. The police. They made the wrong choice because they felt they could. Because they had guns and he didn't.

 

Cops have authority, people with a gun do not.

Comparing the two is stupid.

 

Not that simple.

I 100% disagree. It's stupid to say one was murder and the other totally justified because they were police.

 

Call the police. Duh! One man. Not a riot of 30 coming down the street and you have to make a choice right now. Call the police. It only takes a little common sense to determine the difference of no choice vs choice. They had a choice and they made the wrong one.

 

But then again it's incredibly easy to make a mistake when you are put in that situation.
Especially put in that situation again and again as a full time career.

Maybe these officers should be punished a little bit, but it should probably be punished much less than normal murder. There's a difference between an understandable mistake and intentional premeditated murder.

 

One of the cops testified that he would have issued a warning ticket at worst. This was a good, old-fashioned Georgia lynching, no more, no less...

 

Not really. It'd really quite simple.

Joe Citizen - " Hey stop, pit your hands up" while pointing a gun

A Police Officer in uniform - " Stop, put your hands up"

Really? You can't see the difference?

Where do some of your people come from. Honestly.

 

What do you think that will do?
Do you think the suspect will still be there by the time police arrive?

It often takes 5 to 20 minutes for police to show up, in suburban neighborhoods like this.

 

jury intimidation is a crime, if jurors hear that, he should be charge

 

If it was a cop that stopped him, and he jumped out and grabbed the gun, he deserves to be shot.

You really can't understand what authority is?

 

America has gotten lax on charging people for intimidation, death threats and the like, this has to stop

 

You don't know if it's a real police officer, if it is a corrupt officer, whether it is a lawful arrest, or even whether it is a justifiable arrest.

It seems obvious to me you're using overly simplistic black & white thinking and haven't really spent much time thinking this over.
Reality is not as simple as you might prefer to imagine it to be.

 

I'm going to totally disagree with you again.

 

I remember a Vice President shooting someone once... guns are not toys

 

Your mentality is why people get shot by cops.

Pure stupidity

 

Are you trying to argue for Arbery or against Arbery?
Because you seem to be doing a good job of making it look like he was to blame.

 

If a guy who is built like a football linebacker is dashing towards you, suddenly from around the corner, at ramming speed, that is a threat.

If this had been some little skinny 5-foot-tall Asian boy, I might be willing to agree with you that deadly force was excessive and not justified.

(By the way, anyone noticing a pattern here? Black suspects getting killed in situations because of their large muscular body size)

 

he should of waited to say that until after the trial, probably no juror heard him, but if they had, it could invalidate any jurors that did

 

Oh? How would he have done that? He would have had to catch and stop the suspect first, wouldn't you agree?

So the cop pretty much admits (without saying it) that he would have tackled Arbery to the ground and likely tazed him too if he resisted.

 

Arbery was wrongfully gunned down by vigilantes who should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

If it was a cop was a comparison you made, which would drastically change the situation, expectations, and outcomes.

 

No, the man was totally justified to shoot him.
Arbery ran at him.
Look at the video.

What do you think he was supposed to do at that point?

Wasn't Arbery's hand on the barrel of the rifle?
If Arbery was in a rational state of mind, he would have known he was signing his own death warrant.

What this is REALLY about is you don't think the three had a right to go after Arbery and try to chase him down and cut off his path in the street, and you think Arbery had a right to physically attack them in response.

 

He was chasing the man down the street. With a gun. In a hostile fashion.

That immediately makes him an aggressor, and the right of Aubery to defend himself.

Somebody chases me down the street with gun screaming... I'm absolutley going to take that as a threat on my life.

If Aubery was a threat, he was retreating from the father and son, and they should have easied up the aggression. Instead, they elected to continue to pursue, resulting in Aubery fighting back, in fear of his life, and as a result they killed him.

I dont get to run down the street with a gun chasing and screaming at people and then claim self defense when they fight back. That's silly.

 

Sorry, I'll disagree. Not that simple.

Even if I personally do agree Arbery should have had a legal right to defend himself, so too did that other man.