All of amerikas problems trace back to Slavery

Had the idiot founding fathers NOT brought tons of savages to the new world, we would never have had to deal with Political Correctness.

We wouldn't have Eugenics programs running every aspect of public life.

We wouldn't have a powerful Democratic party.

We wouldn't have had the authoritarian fascist president we suffer under now.

We wouldn't have had to suffer through the violence of the Civil Rights 60s.

We would've skipped right over the civil war.

Thanks Founding Fathers!

 

And when they try to ban this thread, or me.....

MY POINT WILL BE PROVEN.

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whom do you mean when you say savages? the kidnapped blacks, or the kidnapping whites?

 

Racist thread is racist.

Also the logic is lacking in said racist argument.

 

Funny the person worried about free speech doesn't understand it.

 

And what's up with spelling america with a k?

wannabe swede or what?

 

Actually the civil war was a great moment in our history---and showed the strength of our people as they were capable of fighting for principals that mean something. It also destroyed and defeated a way of life that enslaved people, making the South build from the ground up. Which they did.

Our extensive fight to create a society where all men are treated equally under the law couldn't have happened if we didn't have diversity. It wasn't just blacks---but the Irish and Chinese and other ethinic groups who were treated as second class citizens. There was not great fight to help the Irish and Chinese. If it wasn't for blacks---we could easily still be treating those people badly.

The problem with our society today is that people who want to eradicate freedom are trying to build a ruling class by instigating class warfare. Minorities are here and they are the first demographic to manipulate, but whites are next. Its not a race thing---but an ideological thing. Liberal Progressives just use the tools at their disposal---whether it be skin color, income differences, geographic areas, religious differences.....

With the incredible strides towards freedom we have made for all peoples---if liberal ideology was seen as the poison it is and people repulsed against its totaltarian drive---we would be an incredibly strong and prosperous country beyond any country now or in the past..

 

He thinks America is destined to become a the 4th Reich or something, so he spells it the German way.

 

While I totally agree with you that the black influence on America has been for the worse, I cannot place the blame on any of our Founding Fathers for having brought the slaves to America or for having engaged in the slave trade of that time. Perhaps what you meant to say was that the jews were the people responsible for the slave trade primarily out of the Newport, R.I. harbor. So I can't recall there being any jews of note or a Founding Father jew who signed our Declaration of Independence or our Constitution, or were on board with the abolitionists of that time who wanted to rid America of slavery.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Walter.White/Who.Brought.the.Slaves.to.America.htm

 

Not at all.

The Nazis were idiots.

I spell amerika with a K because amerika has become a dictatorship.

It doesn't deserve to be called by its officially recognized name.

 

Not quite. Until they get a political excuse to get rid of the legislature, it's not a dictatorship. Yet.

Give it 50 years.

 

I would a lot of problems come from slavery, but it really boils down to the idea of the superior race. Because of that, we basically discriminated against all sorts of minorities, and that mentality also pushed people down.

 

Horse crap. Val. Most of our problems go back to the Welfare state which truncated the ability of blacks to make it in this society by locking them into a permanent cycle of poverty and violence. The Welfare state is crab pot on steroids.

 

Validation Boy misses the point. The Founding Fathers themselves were of many different opinions about the validity of slavery but were not going to risk tearing the new nation apart over the issue when most Americans either believed in Negro slavery or had no strong opinion on the subject. This made slavery a decision effectively politically agreed to by the whole nation, so any descendants of the Americans of that time have no choice but to deal with the consequences of their decision.

This sort of "what if" is a mirage, in that we can't really tell what might have happened instead. For all VB knows, we might have imported tens of millions of Asian workers and created a permanent underclass of Asians and we would now be dealing with a very hostile Asian-Pacific Rim and Asian ghettoes at home.

 

Asians are respectful and have a culture rich in wisdom.

They would've brought themselves up by now.

Huge difference.

 

The Chinese STILL resent the colonial period when the European nations, Japan and the USA tried to divide up China between them. As for the Asians having brought themselves up by now, how much anti-Asian racism would exist in the USA if they had been the permanent underclass for several generations?

Apparently your argument is that the Founding Fathers enslaved the wrong group of people. The fact is that the prevailing winds and currents of the Atlantic (look up the Triangle Trade) made looking for labor in Africa all but inevitable. The money to be made in sugar cane (Caribbean Islands) and cotton (southern USA) tempted Western European nations into adopting Negro slavery (rather than indenture) in order to have a guaranteed work force that would be forced to put up with terrible working conditions and a high death rate.

You are basically condemning market forces and the lack of a societal code that would have stopped Europeans from enslaving non-Europeans from more primitive cultures. Given the behavior of the Spanish in the New World, complaining about America's Founding Fathers with the benefit of hindsight is pointless.

 

Ignoring your right leaning slant...

I agree slavery was a ridiculous mistake and has caused huge problems, I do however ask why it is not so often brought up in other countries? Why is it constantly brought up here?

America did it in less than 100 years as a country. It took places like Britain, Russia and even France much MUCH longer.

 

Wow! Simply amazing that some just have to voice their inner person for all to see it is as if they cannot control their outbursts.

 

That is racist BS; it's obvious.

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Is racism a problem in America? Sure... it's obvious.

 

Henry Ward Beecher, a typical Abolitionist whose sister wrote Uncle Tom's Cabin, said this about the White working class:

"Anyone who can't live on bread and water has no right to live."

So the Abolitionists had no social conscience. They were agents of the sweatshopping plutocracy, which made all its money from tariff-enabled price-gouging and shared none of that political giveaway with the workers.

But the South, which wasn't industrialized, always voted against tariffs. So mercenary preachers were hired by the Republican capitalist powers. Their assignment was to pretend to believe in Abolitionism and preach it loudly enough to frighten the Southern landowners and make the anti-tariff South secede, leaving Congress with a pro-tariff monopoly. Contrary to the forced-diversity mythmakers, ethnic groups who later rose out of the pit of wage slavery did it on their own by making themselves useful to society.

Originally, "racism" was a tool of class supremacy. Whites who weren't born rich were expected to accept their own undeserved inferior status
if they could feel superior to Blacks and women. When Whites from the 1930s to the 1950s had the nerve to unionize despite their middle status and quit accepting the supremacy of the rich, the ruling class decided to make "anti-racism" a tool of Class Supremacy. Whites were humiliated through pro-Black laws solely in order to get them to accept that their majority vote meant nothing, making them resign themselves to submitting to an economic supremacy also, which was run only for the advantage of the 1%.

When ballots have no majority power, it is time to try bullets. Laws are only peace treaties; they are not the primary source of justice. If the social contract is violated, then society has no moral authority to maintain the status quo.

 

No, you are being misled by the illegitimate class that wants to protect itself. It has always been about Class Supremacy; all other broadcast ideas are misdirections ordered by the 1%. The greatest crime is birth privileges, since they automatically and unquestionably put inferior people in commanding positions. A society based on birth and not worth cannot survive in the modern world. The "merit" of the ambitious is falsely determined by conformity to the 1%'s mandated "choices," so class-climbers are no-talent obsessive Greedheads.

The children of the rich must be cut off from Daddy's Money at age 18. If we have to do it on our own, so must they. Or else (of course, the 1%'s thought police don't give us the freedom to explain what "else" means).

 

Your Kumbaya halo represents nothing but an insult to Asians. After they got their slave wages, they set up active and civilized communities, proving they had been wrongly discriminated against before but never whining about it. Only those who prove they had been rightly discriminated against before whine about it.

 

Yet some will claim their kind are not, even after they post stuff that proves excatly the opposite, and we wonder why this continues to be a problem, Jeeeez.

 

I would definitely agree that it is going to take 'honesty', but also courage will be a must. That is, it will take courage to FACE the reality that America DOES has a serious and pervasive problem with racism.