Almost Half of U.S. Births Happen Outside Marriage, Signaling Cultural Shift

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    You dont know that liberals are the ones attacking tradational American institutions like marrage?

    But dont respond if my posts bother you so much
     
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    Janitors are entitled to what the free market is willing to pay

    And there are too many poor illegals in the market willing to work for less
     
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    lol...Liberals are not the only people attacking institutions these days. And I will stop bothering to respond.
     
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    Luckily my ignore button works still...I haven't used it in a while.
     
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    Great

    Just leave your white flag at the door for the next liberal to use
     
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    First I want to thank you for being respectful. I believe that large numbers of divorces don’t have to be that given this

    10 Most Common Reasons for Divorce
    • Infidelity. Extra-marital affairs are responsible for the breakdown of most marriages that end in divorce. ...
    • Money. Money makes people funny, or so the saying goes, and it's true. ...
    • Lack of communication. ...
    • Constant arguing. ...
    • Weight gain. ...
    • Unrealistic expectations. ...
    • Lack of intimacy. ...
    • Lack of equality
    All of those are things that two functional adult can work through and given the negatives to children should be worked through. They obviously don’t hence divorce and I’m stating society has gotten so lax on it’s stance on divorce that people are more inclined to take the easy way out instead of working through issues. I personally think this trend is going to cause large problems in the future. I realize that I’m just one person and I myself can’t chsnge the way trends are going which I why I said as the way things stand now I am not a proponent of men or women marrying and definitely not men having children. I don’t say that because I think that’s best I say it because it’s the world we live in today. I understand shunning divorce is a pipe dream given reality but I’m still of the stance it’s best for society as a whole.
     
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    You don't have to thank me, there's zero reason to not respect others, unless they're just purposely being ignorant trolls...which you certainly aren't.

    Again, I get your point. I just have a differing view. I like that people don't have to stay married. When I grew up, I knew sooooo many married people that literally hated each other. I saw it in my own family even. So many of my relatives were in miserable marriages and couldn't stand to be in the same room with each other. But you stayed married...it was just a miserable existence.

    I'd hate that choice for myself and for my children. I'm happily married and will be for the rest of my life but I know what I have is rare. To me, if you're unhappy in a marriage, do everything you can to fix it and if you can't, get out of it. People change as they age and often times, compatibility changes. Where I agree with you is that children should be protected. Both parents should have income and be able to financially take care of their children...and both parents should have equal access to their children...whether in or out of marriage. That won't fix all the problems...but its a start. Divorce laws need radical change. Alimony is just silly...women have equal access to education and can work...and custody should be fair for both parents because they're both equally important to kids.
     
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    Conservatives are great at preaching personal responsibility until their own behaviour is called into question. Then it is everyone else's fault. It is interesting to note that the first line of defence for the Catholic Church when widespread allegations of child abuse could no longer be denied was to blame 'permissive culture' etc. Easier than self examination.

    It might interest you to know that there is a great deal of data suggesting that Christians have higher divorce rates than agnostics & atheists, and that within that 'born again' protestants have the highest divorce rates. The suggestion is that marrying younger and perhaps the belief that faith is itself some sort of protection against divorce (over confidence of a sort) may play a role in this.

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
     
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    Agree with all of what you wrote. I just see lists that people are divorcing for reasons like their partner is too fat and I think those people are shockingly selfish
     
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    Yes. Even then
     
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    lol...it is a stupid reason to get divorced. But I would argue that anyone with that mentality should never have gotten married in the first place.
     
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    You are lecturing on Democratic party conservatives it looks like to me.
     
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    Pathetic parents have children out of wedlock.
     
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    Having had numerous opportunities to see how things 'look like' to you I'll give that assessment all the weight it deserves.
     
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    Yes people think that they have to get married because society says marriage is a metric of success also society says divorce is ok because the number of people who get into marriage for the wrong reasons. Hey you might have changed my mind about the message society should be saying. Society should being touting that marriage inst the only way to be successful children aren’t the only way to show that your an adult. There would be less people trying to put a square peg into a round hole.
     
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    As I also do for your posts. Guess how much weight I give yours?
     
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    That is why I want a huge emphasis on the return of the Middle Class. If we bring back manufacturing, keep technology here and get trade under control, we can achieve a lot more than outsourcing, IMO.
     
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    I don't start threads based on an article so clearly a lie that it beggars belief that an adult could be persuaded by it. No wonder you refused to return to your own thread do defend your assertions.

    Based on that any assessment you make of me or my posts is utterly worthless.
     
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    ...and you think everyone who you don't approve of will notice you shunning them ? Are you going to get an Official Shunners Club up and running to save the world ?? :)

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roll:


    AGAIN, you have offered NO sensible solution.
     
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    Telling people what they "should " do has never solved anything...
     
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    To make cultural changes it takes everyone using statistics and logic and reason to come up with the sentiment that single family households are bad. Society includes more than me and I haven’t advocated forcing anyone to do anything if society stays as is and progresses on this same course I do adovacted for young men to not marry nor have children
     
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    Based on your anger, I assure you, yours are invalid and utterly useless.
     
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    Yes, Democrats rules they constantly were making against fellow Americans did have consequences. Trump needs more work on those areas.
     
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    So why did homosexuals crave that paper?
     

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