American ambassador in Germany Richard Grenell insults Germany just hours after taking office

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  1. Sobo

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    Well Merkel is not known to be diplomatic towards Trump.
     
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    publicly she well behaved and diplomatic, very professional.
     
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    There should never have been an Iran deal until they stop their proxy war against Israel and stop their actions in Syria and Yemen.
     
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    maybe Israel should give it's nuclear weapons and delivery systems and end the occupation of palestine...
     
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    You guys are some allies. You sell stuff to the enemy and when the **** hits the fan where are you?
     
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    We see Saudi Arabia as enemy and stopped selling to them. Have you stopped too?

    Where we are? In Afghanistan, fighting a war because we sided with you after 911. 60 german soldiers gave their life for that. Show at least some respect.
     
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    Ok

    If you say so
     
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    Why would they do that?
     
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    You know the reasons so many Americans were opposed to the deal

    Thats why obama had to settle for EO instead of submitting it to the senate as a treaty
     
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    Why do you see Saudi Arabia as an enemy?
     
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    because they they're not supposed to have nukes nor is the occupation legal under international law...but somehow Iran(and NK) is held to a higher standard than Israel...
     
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    how is it different from Iran? ...Saudi is an oppressive theocracy that exports terrorism...
     
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    The iranians did not believe in a communist sociery

    The soviets wanted control over iran and the shah was against it

    Actually neither of us were there and cant be sure exactly what was going on

    But anti Israel-pro palestanians in the west see iran as the enemy of their enemy
     
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    Saudi Arabia is not perfect

    But neither were the russian communists perfect when we needed their help to defeat hitler and the nazis
     
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    you really don't know who Mossadegh is do you, or the history that applies to him...yeah acquiring pertinent information is not a trait of right...
     
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    I do know a little about him

    You can find pro and anti opinions of him

    But neither you or I can know as much as liberals claim to know
     
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    Iran didn’t even sign your contract.
     
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    a democratically elected secular leader who was overthrown by a UK/USA backed coup who replaced him with a brutal dictator...

    what more do we need to know?

    what would as an american think if your democratically elected president was replaced by a dictator in a foreign backed coup, how would you feel about those countries that did that?
     
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    I think today in the comfort and secutity of the post Cold War world condemnstion of those living then is easy

    Were you as hard on obama for encouraging the Arab Spring which has led to so much misery?

    There are very few democracies in the middle east and the one in iran would not have lasted very long in any case
     
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    you're deflecting, how would you feel about foriegn governments overthrowing your government and replacing him with an absolute monarch "king"

    the Iran coup had nothing to do with the cold war, Iran wasn't a communist nation, the coup was about US/UK control of Irans oil...

    the arab spring is another deflection this thread is about Iran, and the arab spring had nothing to do with Obama...
     
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    Israel isn't threatening anybody except Iran who have been waging a proxy war against them for decades. Iran has even threatened to nuke Israel if they get nukes.
    As for the occupation, that can end anytime the Palestinians stop posing a threat to Israel and give up their goal of destroying Israel.
     
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    Iran was drifting into the clutches of the soviet union
     
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    Thats tantamount to saying the occupation will never end

    Because the palestanians show no signs of ever coming to their senses
     
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    even US government records of the day show that to be total BS...it was about oil

    now again, how would feel about countries that deposed your democratically elected government and replaced it with a dictator for life?...answer or run away...or deflect once again lol...
     
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    Palestinians haven't been a threat to Israel for 70 years...Israel is illegally occupying Palestine, no different than Nazi germany occupying europe and that wasn't acceptable either...
     

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