American ambassador in Germany Richard Grenell insults Germany just hours after taking office

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  1. Mac-7

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    Oil is a geo political commodity

    One reason the soviet union fell was that the saudis dropped the price of oil and denied the russians international currency they badly needed

    Irans oil was vitally important to both sides along with their position in the persian gulf
     
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    the palestanian arabs are not a mortal theat to the State of Israel as long as they have no military

    And they cannot have a military as long as Israel controls the territory
     
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    Iran is an avowed enemy of the US and Israel. They have waged a proxy war against Israel for years, they are helping Assad in Syria, and supporting rebels in Yemen who are also enemies of Saudi Arabia.

    Saudi Arabia is not perfect, but it has been possible to maintain a working relationship with them, and it is in our interest to do so. They do not threaten anybody except the Iran-backed enemy next door, and they are not trying to get nukes.
     
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    Also, 70 years ago the arab nations allied against tiny little Israel were many and on every side

    After 70 years of war the list of hostile arab nations willing to fight for the palestanians is much, much shorter
     
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    Iran is a theocracy which is more than willing to die for allah

    And kill the rest of the world doing it
     
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    That's the message the Palestinians need to get through their heads. They may have Iran and the UN on their side, but until they genuinely seek peace with Israel nothing will change for them.
     
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    Israel had no right to exist, it was wrong to impose a country on the occupants of Palestine, it wasn't a noble cause of finding the Jews a homeland it was because the west didn't want them coming to their countries...how would Americans feel if part of their country was carved up and given to a foreign population without their permission?

    LOL! what am I asking you.... of course you won't answer that question either...that's how I know when I've won a debate, the other side continually deflects and runs away from the questions...
     
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    something you need to get through your head ...Israel doesn't want peace, it wants continual agitation so it can remain in Palestine indefinitely, Israel has no intention of ever leaving...
     
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    It was God’s will

    And mandated by the UN in one of the few good things it ever did
     
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    One things for sure

    The palestanians will never stop acting like wild men so we can see if you are correct or not
     
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    Israel doesn't want peace? I suppose you think the Palestinians do.
    Don't forget, Israel accepted the UN two-state solution back in 47. The Arabs turned it down and opted for war.
     
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    The Arabs just couldn't bring themselves to accept the fact that Israel exists.....who can negotiate with people that want to destroy your right to be alive?
     
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    Germany is neither. Germany is not the USA's partner as Germany has embraced globalism and a borderless world and the full spectrum of PC, all of which is contrary to the health of a nations population. Germany is also certainly not a vassal of the USA.
     
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    Ambassador Grenell's first day on the job in Germany

    Fireworks from day one!

    Many German politicians were in high dudgeon, saying they say they don't like being lectured to. German firms do $3.5 billion's worth of business with Iran. Some are talking defiance, while smarter ones have been expecting the reimposition of sanctions and have been reducing their Iranian footprint accordingly.

    When the dust settles, the end result will probably be as German public TV ZDF commentator Wulf Schmiese predicts: "Their dealings with the U.S. are too valuable to them" not to comply.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blo..._day_on_the_job_in_germany.html#ixzz5F9JgwbFb
     
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    They are the main sponsor of terrorism and perverted islamism. Majority of 911 terrorists were saudi
     
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    Yeah and because of that we have a interior minister saying muslims dont belong to germany. Because of that we do mass deportations and deals with libyan war lords who sell the migrants on slave markets. Dude get real. Its not 2015 anymore. We have a far right party in parliament.
     
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    You mean Germanys Chancellor who held office as a communist under the East German communist regime? The same Merkel who defended open borders throughout 2017, and who in the election last year claimed her open borders policy was the right thing to do and would do it again? The same Merkel who forced the open borders policy on other EU nations in her attempt to "fairly distribute migrants" throughout the EU?

    I know more about Germany than you do.
     
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    It does not matter who the American ambassador is anywhere in the world, in a Donald Trump administration. Trump does not do diplomacy, does not care about diplomacy and undermines his own state department constantly. Its a joke. We should call them all back and put them on unpaid leave until he leaves office.
     
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    And why? Because it is the will of the Trump and his BS reasonings and claims?

    Iran has fullfilled the Deal for 100% and everything what Trump has to reasoning the ending hiere are unpriffed claims and things which are not even part of the deal.

    "Imagine the US adopting harsh new sanctions against Iran and beyond Israel and a few Gulf states and Saudi Arabia, nobody else in the world cares about and all hold the deal to be the only valid one!"

    This cheeky villain of US Ambassador in Germany should better shut up and learn to do his job! But what do you expect there, if there is an IDIOTUS in the White House as his boss, eh?

    As far as I'm concerned, Trump should impose sanctions on the EU or companies from the EU if they do not comply with his new sanctions, but with the old and unaltered conditions of the Iran Deal we have. It will be an even bigger joke and comedy than these idiotic punitive tariffs ... and eventually the last low brainer in the US will very fast realize what a suicidal business Trump is doing for the US here!
     
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    ... and not only controls the territory, but also treats the Palestinians like second-class lawless people who live in an area claimed by Israel, but where Israel denies them to give the depending rights and status.

    Really crap, if you conquered areas in a war and they are not deserted ..
     
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    The deal was so good for iran they can afford to let north korea build the bomb mecanisims for them while they perfect their own ICBM to deliver it

    You are just burying your head in the sand and hoping the menace will go away

    Trump is trying to avoid war not only now but in the future but it appears the euros are too greedy and too short-sighted to cooperate
     
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    Like the lady always said, act second class and thsts how you will be treated
     
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    You actually seem to believe this nonsense ...

    Because the Iran deal does not suit Trump, Iran has not fulfilled the deal for things that are not part of the deal. What kind of reason is that?

    As I have stated many times before, thanks to the deal Iran can not build nuclear weapons ... demonstrably.
    And because of the missiles ... sorry ... I'm doing a big shrug because of that!
    You're doing it as if Israel were so vulnerable on the one hand and could not fight it ... and on the other hand, as if Iran has thoughts of suicide and can not wait to press the big red buzzer!
    Do you actually know that at this moment Iran is targeted not only by US missiles but also with a bunch of Israeli missiles, which they can shoot within minutes and atomize every place in Iran? Nobody gets upset about that ... nor even that Israel categorically refuses to give anyone access to their nuclear facilities since ever ... because it is Israel, eh?!
     
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    Then tell me how they hould react 1st class?
    Shall they scream hurray when they suddenly find illegal Israeli settlements on their land the next morning ... and Israel just takes the land away from them and they can not use peaceful and legal measures here by Israeli law ... because Israel is theirs cleverly classifies that Israeli law does not apply to them, even though Israel declares the area as part of Israel?
     
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    Rather the contrary, since 1953.

    Iran supports the victims of zionist aggression in Lebanon and the victims of the Sauds in Yemen. It also fights against Islamists on the request of Syria - all of those things a supposed "world police" as the US should do, it's Iran doing it instead. So, of course, the US opposes them. Iran aslo respects the terms of the nuclear deal they signed. Iran isn't the bad guy here.

    Saudi Arabia caused 9/11. They export wahabism that resulted in ISIL and many other Islamist groups abroad. They corrupt your politician into condoning the crimes they commit in Yemen, just like zionists corrupt the same politicians for the crimes they commit on their every neighbours and the populations under its control.

    Why are you against nukes? Nukes are good, aren't they? Best peacekeepers we ever invented.
     
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