American Soldiers refuse orders to attack Syria!

USA supported Afghan mujahadeen in Afghanistan when they were killing the Soviets. Remember that? Hahaha. Back then they were heroes in America, invited to the white house to meet with reagan. They even had open fund raises and recruitement in America for the mujahadeen ion Afghanistan.

Ahh yes im sure you are aware of what those "brave mujahadeen freedom fighters" became. Ya know the same guys who were blowing up schools, kindergartens and universities in 1980s, the same ones who were throwing acid in womens face that wore skirts or wanted an education, ya know the same ones who were told by Zbignew Brezhinski that the Soviets were there to take away their women and religion. Yeah those same freedom fighters became your worst nightmare al-qaeda terrorists on 9/11/2001. 5000 dead Americans. 7000 dead Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan...... killed by the same guys that you were supporting 20 years ealier. How pathetic is that? Absolute embarassment.

Here are your beloved "mujahadeen freedom fighters"




"These Gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America's founding fathers " Ronald Reagan , 1982 , referring to the Afghan Mujahadeen.








HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA and then you dare compare Hezbollah to these gangster terrorists Americans created in Afghanistan? Hezbollah are innocent little angels and are about as dangerous as a fluffy kitten when compared to the terrorists USA created. Hezbollah functions within a secular society. They are in a parliament and were elected. They respect and protect the Christians. They let the Christians practice openly even in Hezbollah neighborhoods, and Christians can consume alcohol in front of Hezbollah and they do not mind. Hezbollah even host events with Christians and send them gifts and cards on Christmas. What have your USA created and sponsored al-qaeda taliban done, beside destroy, condukt suicide bombings, destroy culture and buddah statues, deprive women of education and kill the Afghan culture.

 

And may there souls rest in peace. May whatever gods they believe in look after their souls. Now, have their been failures? Yes, but a lot of success stories as well. South America, with all its Banana Republics were dependent on the US for most of the early 1900's. The countries the US supported in Africa and Asia. Pretty much until the end of the Cold War, the US managed to keep the world in check.

 

I know 2 US soldiers in NYC and they support my views and want Syrian Army to win. They hate Obama.

 

SyrianGirl1982
Thank You for this thread and concept.

Oliver Stone's history series on cable claimed a time in Vietnam when less then half the American ground troops were "willing" to follow orders and move out. Remember all those "fragings"? Killing the C.O.
Second lieutenants were instructed to stay with the radio in the rear to avoid back wounds.
They could not give the command, "follow me".

It amazes me more or noticeable "multiple tour" guys with involuntarily extended contracts of military service have not just "refused" deployment.

I am glad the military foot soldiers are in the discussion.
They have been sorely abused these last 12 years.

Moi


Vietnam taught me although I do not respect the deployment,
respect the soldier.

 

1. Chain of Command. Obama, whether you like him or not is the Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. He can order them to do whatever he feels necessary.
2. The reason, at least what Obama is saying is because of chemical warfare, which is a fig leaf. The bigger picture is that a destabilized Syria, would help Israel out in case they go to war with Iran. If Syria is destablized, they'll focus on their own country, not try to declare war against another.

 

Yes I support American soldiers too. I remember in 2001 when 9/11 happened, I was hoping they would stay safe in Afghanistan when they fought al-qaeda and taliban. I knew they were the good guys in that conflict and wanted them to succeed. I was also sad about all American soldiers that died for no reason in Iraq.

If USA attacks Syrian Army, they will be supporting and providing cover for those same guys that they fought in Afghanistan! It makes no sense, especially when USA already declared Al-Nusra to be a al-qaeda terror organization.

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US hasnt managed to keep anything in check. Whole region is on fire. Al-qaeda stonger than ever. Wahhabism and salafism gaining and spreading as an ideology.

 

Oh really? Did it dawn on you yet, maybe chaos is what the US wants? No one to challenge Israel in case it goes to war with Iran.

 

2 whole soldiers? Wow, such support. At this rate, you will keep the Killer Drones out of Syria in about 100 years.....until then, tell Grandma to duck and run.

 

How many am I supposed to know, a whole division and ask each one of them?

 

If you say American soliders don't want this, then why don't you back that claim up with some statistics?

 

Did I say any statistics? I just said some American soldiers do not want to fight for al-qaeda in Syria,

 

So then, how is this an issue for making a thread? There's nothing to back your claim up. No reports down to prove they don't want to do it. How do we know that they simply didn't make a bet to say something like that? As illogical as it seems, you have nothing to back your claim up.

 

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I think you are warm. This is about Israel and for Israel. Syria owns the
only real "existential threat" right now in the Middle East with their chemical
weapons stockpile. Israel wants that out of the picture. Then they can
proceed beyond bellicose rhetoric when it comes to Iran.

Syria and Assad have proven tougher than expected. Hence this
chemical weapons false flag and the run up for US military intervention.

Up Syria ! Down with the Zionist NWO !!

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Send some Swiss M18s to your family. They are only 40 bucks each.

 

A message from Syrian Army soldiers to Obama

 

It's the only thing that really made any sense. I don't know if this is what the US actually wants to do, or if it's just trying to secure Israel, but attacking Iran is a priority and the US takes advantage of what's given to it.

 

Oh well, I suppose this means we must kill them, eh? I was hoping for peace.

 

Nah they not scared. Morale is high ! The you target the Syrian Army, the more the terrorists and their sympathizers will suffer. All the scuds have been moved already and will survive. Once the bombing stops, scuds will be flying as an act of revenge.

 

SyrianGirl -
Many commentators believe if "containment" worked with the Communist
It can work with the "crazy Islamist".

I take it we agree America can't practice anti-Communist style containment on Islamist. It doesn't work.
How many Egyptians wish for Mubarak and the good old days, when things were stable and minority Christians were not persecuted.
Same for Hussain and Iraqis.
Or the happenings in lesser known states. Qatar ? Algeria ? Libya ?
Would you educate me to some of those American or Arab Spring successes ?

Regardless what totalitarian thugs Mubarak, Hussain, Assad represent,
they did take care of their minority populations and the minorities did not know the fear they know today.

Thank You

Moi

 

It's a sad affair for the victims of al-Assad's attacks but lobbing a cream pie over a busy traffic intersection in Damascus isn't really going to resolve anything.

If the U.S. had an effective Department of State led by a competent government administration then it should be able to organize political pressure to force al-Assad to end the victimization of that country's citizens.

Obviously, none of the needed leadership exists in our government today. I can only hope the imbeciles who elected the BOzo have learned their collective lesson from their experiment in idiocy.

Every. Vote. Counts.

May the Gods bless and protect the citizens of Syria

 

Ernesto Fuentes
USN, 2007-2012

"To my fellow sailors: Refuse your orders to attack Syria!"

A young Navy veteran speaks out against the U.S. plans for war on Syria

http://www.answercoalition.org/march-forward/statements/to-my-fellow-sailors-refuse.html

 

Abject nonsense, while the U.S. did support the indigenous Afghan fighters we never supported the foreign Jihadists and while some of them would go on to form the basis for the Taliban others would go on to form their primary rivals the Northern Alliance; such as, Ahmad Shah Massoud; furthermore, at the time the mujaheddin were fighting in a legitimate struggle against an unjustified military invasion by the Soviet Union in an attempt to acquire a warm water port.

The U.S. never sponsored, funded, armed, or trained any foreign Jihadists directly or intentionally who would go on to form Al-Qaeda and there is absolutely 0 evidence that we did. The foundations of AQ were formed in the late 80's in Afghanistan during a meeting of central leadership under the banner of the Maktab al-Khidamat headed and founded by Abdullah Yusuf Azzam, (Osama Bin Laden's mentor who OBL later killed over a policy dispute over where to implement the next Jihad). According to the testimony of Jamal al-Fadl AQ as we know it today was formally established on August 11-20 in 1988 during a meeting of central leadership attended by himself, Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Mohammed Atef, Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, Wael Hamza Julaidan, and Mohammed Loay Bayazid and eight others, There is absolutely no evidence that the U.S. aided these groups or individuals in any way, shape, matter, or form.

Furthermore; none of what you have just said is any response to my rebuttal against your propaganda poster which stated that Syria has not attacked any other country since WW2 when in fact they have attacked, tried to overthrow, invaded, occupied, etc 3 countries IE Israel, Jordan, and Lebanon. As to the barbarity of the Taliban compared to Hezbollah, Hamas, and the PLO all three of whom the Syrians aided, funded, armed, and trained at one time or another, they are exactly the same in that all of them intentionally murder innocent men, women, and children as their tactic of choice EG the slaughter of Maronite Christian men, women, and children by the PLO, the crushing of Jewish infants skulls by PLO operatives, hundreds of rocket attacks against civilian targets, the bombing of buses and the bombing of Jewish cultural centers by Hezbollah, and let's not leave out Hamas who strap bombs to children and use homicide bombers to murder civilians in pizza parlors and night clubs and who have been Talibanizing Gaza since their takeover by establishing puritanical Sharia law bringing back such punishments as chopping off hands of thieves, lashings for the consumption of alcohol, and crucifixion of apostates.

 

Still, the Swiss M18 helmet is cool...It was Darth Vader's helmet in "Star Wars".

Geez, why can't you people be cool and learn to hang out? This is just a forum and people that are well liked tend to find sympathy. Violently volatile people tend to be kicked around and laughed at. Twenty years ago or more, I remember a person pretending to be a Sioux indian girl and she got all sorts of sympathy until she turned into a turd and then people started treating her and her people like (*)(*)(*)(*). She ended up committing suicide. Wakkan Thakkan Nicci Un. (One Crazy Indian Girl)

 

1. No statistics yet?
2. A vet in this situation doesn't count. We need to be focusing in on current members of our armed forces.

 

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Our government is full of AIPAC bought dogs and brainwashed Christian Zionists. If anything, Obama
is stalling compared to what McCain and the Republicans would be doing if they were in the
White House. i.e. We would have been involved in a military action in Syria already.

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