American Soldiers refuse orders to attack Syria!

The military's 1st duty is to protect the public security of the nation's people. That is the real Constitution.
Democracy is just a racket to get a mob to vote to violate the rights of Men.
The real Bill of Rights is the 10 Commandments that says a Man has a right to be secure in his life and his property, and a right to a society that honors those rights in Truth, Mercy and Faith.
That is the the public security and the real constitution that the military is to uphold as its primary objective.

 

Way to destroy your own credibility, seeing as how many Americans, the American government, and even prominent American Christians view Hezbollah as just as dangerous as Al-Qaeda, seeing as how before 9/11 Hezbollah held the mantle of deadliest terrorist organization: it killed more Americans (including 241 Marines in a single bombing in 1983) than any other terrorist organization.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012...hezbollah-dangerously-out-date/#ixzz2diFSNCFc

Not to mention that it allies itself with America's number 1 enemy right now; Iran, and both Iran and Hezbollah advocate for the complete destruction of the state of Israel and zionism, both of which have huge popular support in the U.S.A.

I am beginning to suspect that your heavily biased towards Al-Assad, and simply don't like Sunni Muslims.

 

Without intervention,
I wonder what would happen next with the unfortunate people of Syria,
the gassing would continue blaming each other's side.
Many innocent lives are still there for the taking.

 

I think that is one of the main reasons why minorities in the region have been under constant attack recently, because they got special treatment from dictatorships. And let's keep this in mind here, I highly doubt that the totalitarian thugs did this to take care of the minority populations, rather it is to make sure discontent doesn't reach at a fever pitch and that they got a bloc to protect their asses, and in some cases make sure the minority that a thug in question is a part of gets very prestigious positions in the national government. We have seen this with the Al-Assad family giving prestigious government jobs to only the Alawites, who make up 12% of Syria's population; so of course it will (*)(*)(*)(*) the majority off and give them the idea that the minority is in cahoots with the government on suppressing the nation for their own selfish interests.

 

Well they are committing treason.

 

Ya, you tell him troops!! You signed up to start civil wars and kill people in the civil wars we start. It is our job to create civil wars, we don't need other people cutting in on our action!!! If they do, we won't be helping them.

PS. Hilarious that we are talking about going to war because the Syrians dared use chemical weapons, at the same time that it is being confirmed that WE used chemical weapons in Iraq. When will silly people around the world learn, that only we can use nuclear weapons, undermine democracy, use chemical weapons, etc. If they do it, we have a moral obligation to kill them!!

 

Disagreeing with the president is treason?? Good lord, what a disgusting country we live in!!

 

Ha ha - not only that but the Syrian side conveniently forgot about 1967, right? (chuckle)

 

You realize not a single right is outlined in the 10 commandments correct? It is a list of things you shouldn't or "can't" do, and lists nothing that you can!! Our actual bill of rights is a list which decries you liking your neighbors TV and wanting one? But that is the heart of capitalism, which is our real religion!! Not that hippy crap Jesus was on about.

 

It is for a soldier to disagree with his commanding officer.

 

"al-Qaeda Taliban"?

A little over the top there, aintcha SyrianGirl?

 

Ummmmmmmm..... Do you know anything about American history? We have intervened in civil wars on numerous occasions, most famously the Vietnam and Korean wars. I hope you have heard of those wars!! The history of American intervention into any and all situations is so long, that listing all them would take too much of my time to bother. But we have done it on multiple other occasions as well, in Latin America on multiple occasions for example. Go do a google search, it isn't hard.

 

No it isn't. Thought crimes don't exist. It would insubordination for a soldier to refuse the command of a commanding officer (not sure it would be treason), but all soldiers are free to disagree with them. Again we live in a disgusting country. This is the exact sort of Orwellian trash we heard from the right when Bush was president, now repackaged by Democrats to serve their own purposes. As I said, disgusting.

 

Ha ha - this gets better and better! Two US soldiers in New York City? They got pulled off of active combat? Disciplined, perhaps? Hint: if they're in NYC they're not being "soldiers", are they?

Come on SyriaGirl, you can do better. There are some very important real issues in the mix here.

Watch me, I'll show you one of them. I'm going to head over to the "Current Events" forum in a half hour or so, and post a few things. Come on over, check it out.

I'm on your side, I want al Qaeda gone too. But I also want the killing to stop - on all sides. Cluster bombs won't do either, they're almost as bad as chemical weapons. We have to get real about this. You can't go killing your people for a little political dissent, that simply won't do. There are problems underlying these problems. Come on, I'll show you how we can fix them.

We can fix them together, we don't have to be at odds about this. You don't have to convince us al-Qaeda is bad, we know that already.

 

Yes but it is not all about favoring ones minority tribe ala Assad and Hussain.
It is also about protecting the nation's Christian populations.
Those murderous thugs succeeded in that.
I am not radically concerned about those Christians as much as I see no genocide or riots on the Christians as an underrated accomplishment of their murderous administrations. Something their successors could not accomplish.
Security and threats to the Arab Christians in Arabia is a miner's canary bird indicator of what is going on.
The Arab Spring has been very unhealthy for the Christians of Arabia.
Any American involvement to topple Assad will likely be hurtful to the security of Syria's Christian population.
How can a dead canary bird be a good thing regarding American values.

Moi

There are 2 sides in Syria and neither is worthy of American support.

 

Because if nothing is done, Syria's Christian population will still be threatened and face genocide. Look, I'm not saying that the rebels haven't hurt any Christians, since the evidence shows otherwise -only with the Islamic Terrorists sects of the rebellion-; but siding with Al-Assad in this war carries the huge risk of being stigmatized within the populace, and risks of only delaying the ever increasing possibility of being completely wiped off. Because let's remember, no dictatorship is permanent, even when Bashar Al-Assad passes on and the presidency is handed over to one of his children in the off chance he wins the civil war, there is no gurantee that future Al-Assad's will be able to hold that grip of power for long, and as the old saying goes, it's a matter of if the regime will be toppled, but when.

 

If someone that hates USA makes a list of 50 bombed countries and puts them in a JPG file, it must be true. <rolls eyes>

 

Why side with anyone.​

Assad & Hezbollah vs Rebels and Al Qaida with Chechen Al Nursi.
Who represents American interests?
Why side with anyone.
Gas is bad. So bad. So is lots of stuff. America can't. It just can't maintain global police actions.
"Why?" Later if insisted upon. It is self evident to me.

Moi

 

I accept that rational, why should America police the world ? it can take a step back and take care of itself + her closest allies should it choose and nothing more, let other tear themselves apart if that's their fate.

Today that's not the case, I dont know how the "police" stance started, perhaps a lesson learned from Nazi Germany perhaps better trade deals perhaps both,

However the fact is it does together with some strong allies, so at this moment when the west chooses who to help and who not is problematic, more than that, in this case zig zag only supports the tyrant and his allies.

I think he should get bombed and let the rebels do the rest, however as thing develop that may not be best tomorrow, with the current confident Syria and Iran got from the west weakness, what was supposed to be a few misslies fired may actually be a war,

If the Brits had balls the west would already bombed him and he would have gotten the messege, now I think ill just accept what the leaders will decide as its getting more complicated.

 

I see. So, the fact that a democratic vote in Parliament decided against my country murdering women and children in Syria, this gives you reason to conclude(from that), that we 'lack balls'.

Really? See, I understand we have a different way of seeing things, and I just know we have a whole different set of values and ethics, but in the world we live in murdering innocent women and children based on Israeli intelligence is NOT considered the stuff of tough guys. However, I fully appreciate that for those brave boys of the IOF, it is a badge of honour.

 

Up with Israel the only liberal, secular, and democratic state in the entire region, down with Baathist totalitarian, sectarian, jackbooted Alawite tyrannies of the minority.

Oh and care to provide a single scrap of Israeli complicity in this chemical weapons attack? No? So you mean to say this was just more anti-Israel conspiracy theory nonsense? Thought so.

 

Yes it was us who invented the atomic bomb and used it and it was us who invented chemical weapons and used them and Hitler was a Jordanian working in Germany when he decided to gas the Jews. Yes of course all that is a ME cultural thing we discovered ourselves.

to even ask such a question that these are real really does illustrate how insane American really are when they don't believe that some of them could genuinely stand up against this madness!!

do you realise how this looks to sane people outside the USA that you would even question these photos? How lost a people are who cannot consider that these might be real.....................

 

Your PM gave a public speech on Assad use of Chemical weapons, it was coaltion of western powers that decided to act and did so publicly, instead, turning back on his word - and it could be that your Parliament lacks balls and not Cameron - strengthed Assad, He knows your country knows he used the Chem but is not willing to act on it as it said it would.

 

Israel is none of those things and any evidence of the perpetrators of chemical attacks should be investigated by international authorities.

 

Name them and prove that they are "bought off" as if AIPAC trumps Arab oil money and U.S. oil lobbies.

A Zionist is anyone who supports the continued existence of Israel, most Americans support the continued existence of Israel despite virulently anti-Semitic conspiracy theories proliferated by neo-Nazi's and Islamic radicals, because they know the truth that Israel is a liberal democracy in a region where there is none and is thus a valued strategic ally.

This isn't about Israel or anyone else this is about the totalitarian Baathist regime led by Assad and the sectarian Alawaite tyranny of the minority slaughtering civilians demanding their inalienable rights to self determination and democracy.