Uh no not a copy rights conference, a zionism conference, about returning to a homeland - they even considered Texas. Because of course, Palestine had numerous inhabitants. Uh no, it did so not under any law the locals had either particpated in or agreed to. It did it under the auspices of an invading imperial power who was entrusted to hold the land for the benefit of all. Instead it chose to hold it for the benefit of people who werent even living there but instead were in europe. And no, the locals had every right to oppose the distiubution of land, they owned the majority of land in every single district, and there is everything evil about it - why? Becuase to oppose what the Jews did in Palestine as the arabs did is exactly what every other native people have done, no native people have ever agreed to divide their land with a foreign immigrant population and not one people today would do so either. No it was a country, it was not a nation state, but more importantly it was where human beings lived. And the mandate was for the land to be held in trust for the benefit of the inhabitants, not the inhabitants plus anyone else a favoured group wanted to bring in - you wouldnt accet that now or ever and neither has anyone ever. Palestine. Thats what country. And indeed why cant majority of a places inhabitants decide for themselves what their future is? Why should the peoples of Salvador, Guatemala, Congo, Algeria, ... etc. have the right of self determination but not the Palestinians? No in their case, their numbers were not enough, the jews of Europe had to be counted too a clear case of outright bigotry. We do not accept UN decisions simply because it is the UN, in fact anyones decision, we accept decisions because they are morally consistent. Res. 181 did not meet that standard. Arab lives were indeed in danger in Palestine. The political dispute was deadly serious, and only the arabs did not realise the seriousness of the Jewish intent in time to effect it. The Israeli arabs you have are a historical accident born not of kindness but of running out of campaign momentum, and a perilous need for international backing and support that continues to this day. To try to compare the minority Jewish situation on Europe, with majority Palestinians situation is incorrect. If its a non issue then why continually try to paint Palestinians as wanton killers of innocents while painting yourselves as people who cry and consider deeply every life you take. Its a self serving lie. Whats accidental about Israeli policy? Seige and settlement, occupation, and assassination by rocket are all deliberate policy in full knowledge of the likely casualties resulting. Yes you demolished the houses of, lets instead say thousands rather than hundreds of thousands, of people because you thought one of their relatives who also lived there had committed a crime of terrorism. Meanwhile you curtail the lives and restrict the living space and water resources of nearly a million or so, arrest thousands upon thousands and shoot demonstrators protesting in their own neighbourhoods, or come in the night to arrest boys who you think have thrown stones at soldiers. The list goes on and on. What is your problem? You know all this. You know this condemns you and makes you the wrong party. First of all you did (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about land, but of course knowing you intended to take whatever land you could get in the face of a majority opposition you eventually accepted whatever you could get. The Palestinians did exactly what anyone would do. Israeli opinion does indeed matter. You could arrest every single Palestinian tomorrow if you wished to and re-introduce a widescale shut down of Palestinian life if you didnt like their political set up. Nor would any unity make any difference in the face of Israeli opposition, as it hasnt even with the peaceful and cooperative attitude of the PA for over a decade. Were discussing it because you're using a lack of Palestinian unity as an excuse to blame the lack of progress not on yourselves but on the people imprisoned. And no Israel was not imprisoned. Ever. It was helped over and over. And just like Israel its declaration had no effect, only its use of military power did.
It's very wide accepted that Jews ethnic cleansed Palestinians by the 100.000's. So I will decline your troll request.
You can repeat yourself, but it doesnt make it true. I never said it, hence you cant blame me on to be a supporter of such thing. You wanted to asked me twice about a man who evecuate somone else from his house because of how he looks like, hence it is an hypothetical situation that the actuall situation that you tried to ask me through such question didnt happen, thus your question has no answer
You mean you fold from your idiotic claim the Arabs were violent on early Aliya because of ethnic cleancing, np. we knew that all along.
Indeed. And that is why it is by absence of responding you make it apparent that you do support ethnic cleansing. It is all considered ethnic cleansing, all the way up to the international courts. And ethnic cleansing is what the Jew did in Israel to 100.000's of Arabs and still does today. - - - Updated - - - Its not idiotic to claim Jews ethnic cleansed Arabs by the 100.000's. It's a commonly accepted historic fact
I gave alraedy the reason why there is no answer for your question. If I didnt say something, dont say I said it. The Jews never evecueted people from their houses because of their skin color or how they look like, hence, your question that trying to portrait such scenario has no answer because such scenerio (of evecuating peopel because their apperence never happened). It is historical fact that Israel offered the Arabs a return of those 100,000 inside of Israel, but they refused and rejected it.
Throu ethnic war the Arabs initiated, you said they turned to violence BECAUSE they were ethnically cleansed yet you have no proof that happened before the war they started - you see your problem ? you exploit a tragedy ignoring its roots and waving any responsibility - that's why they don't have a state today, because they think everyone else are as ignorant as their radical socialist European followers.
its a fact that hundreds of thousands of Arab civilians were forced out of Israel and not allowed back
that's not a response, its avoiding a response. sorry, but facts are facts. hundreds of thousands of Arab civilians were forced out of Israel, now allowed back, all following the rules set forth by Plan Dalet.
As I wrote in my previous comment: It is historical fact that Israel offered the Arabs a return of those 100,000 inside of Israel, but they refused and rejected it.
half of them were, which is much more than 100,000. Israel committed racist ethnic cleansing and today commit racist Apartheid.
The majority of the Arabs that were moved out, happened before the begining of the war. Which then the move out was because of the Arab nations that urged the Arabs to leave their houses so the Arab nations could conqured the Land of Israel. Such thing you could see in a resolution that was accepted in the 50's in Jordan which said that Jordan would not allow the Arabs that leave their houses in 1948 and came to Jordan to return to their houses until Jordan will destroy Israel.
half of the refugees were FORCED out by the Zionist forces. its all planned and detailed in Plan Dalet. they planned to provoke Arabs to resist the Zionist forces, and use this resistance to justify/excuse them pushing them over the border. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Dalet
According to the operational objectives of the plan: Where do you see in those objectives the word "forced evecuation"/"expulsion"? Source: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Plan_Dalet.html Let's us not forget that Arabs started to move out from their homes, in 1947 before the war, and not in 1948.
Destruction of villages (setting fire to, blowing up, and planting mines in the debris), especially those population centers which are difficult to control continuously. Mounting search and control operations according to the following guidelines: encirclement of the village and conducting a search inside it. In the event of resistance, the armed force must be destroyed and the population must be expelled outside the borders of the state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Dalet#Details
And that is "in the event of resistance", and not just like that or because they are Arabs. Which means if there will be armed forces that would attack the Jewish armed forces then they could counter-attack.
