And so it begins....... Democrats imposing martial law

Usually, with mobs, the simple show of force is all that is required. Failing that, crowd control measures. The DOD have some awesome new crowd control measures. Perhaps this is an excellent testing ground for them.

 

Except you said that mayors and governors who used national guard to “dominate” protesters would be actin in an authoritarian manner. But now you say that trump doing exactly the same thing would NOT be authoritarian????
Smh.

 

Your response is quite vague. I was looking for a tad more detail on what "dominate" means. The police HAVE been showing a show of force which hasn't worked. So what does "dominate" mean in regards to what you mean?

 

Hmm.. I would point at many PDs who have simply stood at barricades and not engaged, even when rioting and looting were occurring around them. Crowd control comes in lots of flavors. The question is, what is obviously peaceful protest and legal assembly aren't where the issues are, are they? The issues are when, from inside these crowds, agitators and ANTIFA members throw projectiles, accelerants, etc at the police. What cowards, using the human shields of peaceful protestors... But then, there are the folks who simply go out aggressively looking to loot and burn. That doesn't need crowd control anymore, it needs effective countermeasures which, thankfully, the military is pretty good at.

 

You started this thread claiming that Democrats were using the crisis as an excuse to use dictatorial force to control
the population ... and now you are wishing for MORE force to be used ...
Wish you would make up your mind.

 

I've seen police use tear gas and engage in those rioting. Hasn't stopped the rioting. So again...what kind of "dominating" are you referring to?

 

I don't. Rioters start a war. It is the government's responsibility to put an end to it as quickly as possible. The problems the OP is concerned about occurs when the national guard troops don't go home after the riots. Fortunately, they still do.

 

Yup they led out with the Chiners flu and when cabin fever was good and high and opportunity knocked they seen it AS

 

Same here, then again everyone is in the wilderness camping and fishing. Not much of that going on in the concrete cities of despair

 

I did. And, in the cities noted, they are, and likely will use these as their excuse to continue the lockdowns indefinitely. Gavin, Garcetti, et al have moaned for weeks about how they needed the national guard to enforce their tyranny. And now, seemingly, they have it. I mentioned that thesis a trap, several times that will ultimately be blamed back on folks, like Trump, who like so many of us, lost our patience at seeing these liberal bastions burn themselves to the ground while the city and state leaders sat back waiting for it to happen.

I never said "more force" should be used. I said the appropriate force necessary to subdue rioting and looting needs to be employed. I know, I might have used to bigger words in that comment, but clearly, the intent of the comment doesn't then support your assertion about it. Try again.

 

Yeah, who's laughing at who now?

Between the Wu Flu, the riots and the imbeciles running those "progressive" shitholes, the last place you'll find me is in some smoldering disease-infested city.

 

The danger of course to all of this is that suddenly liberals might now figure out just how stupid their density first plans have been. The less populated places will likely now see an influx of disgruntled density liberals now all trying to spread out across the land. That has its own short term dangers.

Keep the wild places free. Allowing liberals out of their cesspools only ever makes free places less so, and or entirely closed off from those who respected them in the first place.

 

Yip, and to update, we had one last night in our downtown, 70 protestors, candlelight vigil, very respectful and productive. One idiot climed on a police car and 3 protesters pulled him down. Thank you!

Basically this whole social distancing thing is gone right? What's the point?

I think there were a ton of people that we're just working their way back into society and no longer being scared but then they see these crowds on TV in their City and that's the end of it, they are all panicked again.

Will the msm dare to give me more updates on the lake of the ozarks pool party? It was the lead Story 5 days ago.

 

Quite a sweeping generalization. I live in a rural town that is mostly liberal (what do you expect in MA) and we have zero protesting going on here. There actually are liberals who prefer the rural life of quiet, ability to grow veggies and even hunt. Maybe libs out this way just aren't as cranky as those in the cities.

 

Never pass up an opportunity to dubiously flog the truth. Bringing in the NG to “help provide security and restore safety” is not imposing martial law. Neither is it how "democracy dies." Democracy dies when the POTUS spreads lies about mail-in ballots in order to suppress the vote and foment questions about the legitimacy of elections.

"The public, whipped up in a frenzy to destroy their own cities,"
What? The vast majority of demonstrators (which includes white people) are protesting peacefully.

This is what authoritarianism looks like.

 

Density sucks. That's for sure. Actively zoning and developing density is a liberal methodology for social engineering that they so enjoy. All that convenience at the cost of so much risk.

 

LOL... Ok, I'm laughing, and not with you here. The country waited for days for democratic leaders to get their collective shyte together and protect their citizens and cities. Hell, some of them still haven't. Why is Philly burning? For all your bluster about the majority are peaceful, look at the flames your cities are in, and excuse it if you must, but it doesn't change the facts that liberals and their domestic terror organization ANTIFA are using terror to sue fear and to terrorize the people of the land. Someone had to do something to quell all that, no? And for that, you'd label that effort as "authoritarianism"? Laughable. Anarchy is not the stable state of a society. Restoring stability is a necessary function of civil society. No authoritarianism required. When you have a plan that puts the ANTIFA genie back in the bottle, and can restore peace to the streets of liberal cities, you get back with us....

 

Good luck with that.

 

Except that there are many conservatives who also live in cities by choice

 

Perhaps. But that is a choice they make. Creating pockets of poverty on purpose is an entirely different thing. Don't you agree?

 

He has made up his mind. It can be summed up as
1 Trump is always right
2 Blame everything I don’t like on Democrats
3 If Trump does something that I previously said I didn’t like and blamed on Democrats, refer to rule 1

 

Ah...so you believe it's only conservatives who CHOOSE to live in cities?

 

So he meant exactly what he said, which is that governors need to dominate protesters? Good to know you agree with me. Trump's critique of them was that they were not being authoritarian enough, yet you claim he is the anti-authoritarian one in the equation. The disconnect between reality and your opinion here is astounding. How do you achieve such superhuman feats of mental gymnastics?

 

More comedy, these same leftie Governors were busy arresting kids for playing basketball and going to the beach yet there mantra to the "protesters" march in peace and we will not arrest anyone.
These asshats need to be voted out of office. Their combined failures to read the situation cost the taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars and hundreds of closed businesses, all this on top of their believing the "models" given for the Chinese virus.