Andrew McCabe, a Target of Trump’s F.B.I. Scorn, Is Fired Over Candor Questions

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    In the absence of leaks from the Trump Justice Department's Special Counsel and his team, speculation is inevitable. The media see the indictments, confessions, subpoenas, etc., and guess.

     
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  2. Bluesguy

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    And again a simple two sentence conversation between Trump and Comey and we're still waiting almost a year later?

    We want the mission completed as quickly as possible, what don't you get here? Personally I believe Mueller should never have been appointed because of his conflicts and he should be replaced now with someone without the conflicts who can take an unbiased view of the where the investigation is at and determine if it needs to continue instead of just remaining on the witch hunt let's investigate everything there is about Trump and see if we can find something route it seems to be on. This thing started out with no evidence of a crime, when the statute requires that a predicate crime having been committed, and STILL hasn't shown one. If there is no "collusion crime" then end the SC office and turnover the evidence to career prosecutors in the DOJ and FBI and let them decide whether these business dealings ten years ago which had nothing to do with the campaign need to be further investigate by them and if necessary prosecute them.
     
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    Yes as we have seen in the anti-Trump campaign and those desperately hoping to find something, anything for which he can be charged.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    You just made a statement of fact, that Putin took actions on Trumps behalf.

    Prove it, prove Putin did something "on Trump's behalf"

    Definition of on behalf of someone
    1: as a representative of someone
    • The teacher accepted the award on behalf of the whole class.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/on behalf of someone

    This is the type of unsupported hyperbole you post demonstrating you have nothing to back your claims.
     
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    It's been readily apparent that the so-called 'investigation' is fraudulent in nature, and this fraud has been perpetuated against the American People, for varying interests and reasons. In the case of Mueller, he gets his free pay without providing anything of reasonable substance. For Democrats, both the need to have propaganda against the President(as well as their own belief it was robbed from Hillary) is for it. And as for Never Trump Republicans? They are aligned with Democrats at least on the propaganda part, but that's to restore their 'vision' of the Republican Party.

    In all of this, the great loser is the American Republic, who loses the effectiveness of the executive branch, who sees Congress letting the treasury be robbed without so much as a fight and allows people who perpetuated the theories(Simpson) to escape, unhindered.
     
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    The Coming Collusion Bloodbath.

    What the universe has truly ignored is the fact that the Inspector General’s investigation (which has been far less publicized than Special Council Robert Mueller’s), and in large measure has had much more devastating impact. Agents have been fired, reassigned, and otherwise dealt with just within the process of the investigation. The limited amount of what we’ve seen from the efforts thus far have painted a picture of corruption at the highest levels, and potentially “Watergate” comparable outcomes upon the report’s issuance.

    McCabe’s firing was directly linked to the IG’s findings, and once revealed to the Justice Department’s disciplinary powers a concurrent recommendation was termination.

    That Comey, McCabe, and others have practiced an obvious double standard in the email case of Hillary Clinton where ample evidence caused 106 of the case agents and attorneys working on the case to believe indictment would occur, and simultaneously going to such extraordinary measures through the assistance of essentially Hillary’s campaign operation to attempt to thwart the outcome of the election is more than enough reason to go after them on a criminal basis alone.

    That McCabe reportedly lied to the low key Inspector General, while attempting to send General Michael Flynn to prison for lying to the same FBI is of highest hypocrisy.

    But hypocrisy is what Comey, McCabe, Strzok, and others seem especially gifted at.

    Well, to be fair, it takes a hypocrite to play the corruption game at this level.
     
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    You know all about that don't you Natty. Hence all that deflection you come up with. Don't worry one day you will know about documented facts and knowing about many things.

    Then you will wish you were a Phenom and know about a great many of things. Just sayin. :lol:
     
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    Natty....it certainly doesn't upset me. You make sure you let me know when he actually comes up with something. But for now in this thread you need to focus on the OIG, BO the peep appointed and was confirmed by the Demos that decided to hook up your Biased McCabe. Looks like they got him for Official Misconduct, fired him and caused him to set out that Weasel James Comey. :laughing:
     
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    You seem desperate to avoid the simple question that I have posed to you at least twice: Since Trump can fire the Trump Justice Department’s Republican Special Counsel, why, despite the opposition and threats from Ryan, Gowdy, and so many other prominent Republicans, doesn’t he?

    Actually, I noted that no one can know whether Putin's covert efforts on Trump's behalf were decisive in the election. Personally, I doubt it.

    The CIA concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, and I know of no other intelligence agency that has concluded otherwise. If you are aware of any, please provide a link to your source.

    I do not accept Putin’s word when he denies it, although I recognize that some eagerly do.


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    No I think I asked you first, since you claim it is Trump's investigation he can do without remorse anything he wants with it correct?

    Or is it really Mueller's Special Counsel office.

    What's your hangup with putting Trump's name on it as if he appointed it and it is working for him. It's an independent office.

    No you actually made a statement of fact

    Now prove it.

     
  11. Natty Bumpo

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    Actually, I do not embrace fanciful notions that are based upon ideological agendas if and until they are proven.

    In regard to the the twice popularly elected previous president who completed his term with 58% approval, I always maintained a healthy skepticism toward the crackpots' attempt to delegitimize him be claiming that he was not born in the US. Same with the wacko birds braying that Hillary Clinton murdered Vince Foster, as well as the bushwa concerning millions of invisible bogus balloteers that voted against Trump.

    If charges are brought, it imparts credibility. When convictions result, it attests to truth.

    Some just suck up the silliest notions without credible evidence if it provides them with ideological pleasure.
     
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    If you cannot refute the CIA's finding that the CIA concluded that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, I'm not surprised.

    Meanwhile, you persist in refusing to offer any reason why Trump, who has the power to fire the Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel, does not do so.
     
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    Obama was the first birther. Hillary campaign was second.

    Lying Jim was fired for lying ti investigators. Since Flynn and others have been indicted for lying to Investigators, obviously Lying Jim McCabe will too. In fact, since Lying Jim contradicts Leaking Jim Comey, Comey may be indicted too, we will have to sort out which Jim is the bigger liar.
     
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    The law of the land makes no distinction between civilians and civil servants.
     
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    Onus is entirely on you to prove that law applied to the Secretary of State.
     
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    Another load of bovine feces with zero substantiation whatsoever.
     
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    Onus is entirely on YOU to PROVE that law applied to Hillary.
     
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    Excellent!

    Your BLOTUS will be self inflicting more unnecessary wounds upon himself and his criminal cabal of cohorts.
     
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    Your guess work WRT to the deputy director of the FBI is unsubstantiated by anything even remotely credible.

    ONLY the FBI director is appointed by the POTUS. The deputy director is picked by the FBI director from amongst the FBI employees.
     
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    But the onus is not on him to teach you reading comprehension. That's clearly your own problem and you will have to work on it yourself. That law apllies to everyone. Furthermore, many democrats should be jailed for allowing Awan brothers (read the Pakistani millitary intelligence) access to congress and senate computers.
     
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    That was NOT what Comey said to Congress.

    Comey was specifically asked about ANONYMOUS SOURCES.

    That has nothing to do with "AUTHORIZED LEAKS".

    Here are the FACTS.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378910-mccabe-i-did-not-leak-to-the-media

     
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    So you too lack the ability to prove that it applied to the SoS.

    Got it!
     
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    My conclusion was based upon the abundance of leaks.
     
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    That is the Whitehouse, not the Mueller's investigation.
     
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    You've presented nothing on Comeys statement. So not sure what your denial is based upon. AND you left out the important part of the McCabe quote. Specifically where he said "It was not a secret, it took place over several days, and others, including the director, were aware of the interaction with the reporter.” AND McCabe leak was attributed to anonymous source.
     
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