Anti-White Racism Has Reached Critical Mass In America

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  1. STRANGEVISITOR72

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    FACT: Poor people commit more of the types of crimes you would like associated with Blacks.

    FACT: Blacks are the most marginalized group in this society and the poorest.

    Simple logic:
    The have-nots take from those that have.
     
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    Understood, but if your "theory" holds truth for one underclass it must hold truth for them all.
     
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    Not all underclass groups become decadent. The African American underclass wasn't at all decadent prior to the attempt of the federal govt. to help them.

    Unfortunately, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Helping the AF underclass led to Unforeseen Consequences, especially the creation of Perverse Incentives. By and large the federal govt. destroyed the Black Family in the underclass. And now the AF underclass has developed attitudes toward Civic Virtue that are reminiscent of that of the Roman underclass who depended on bread and circuses. Once a group becomes hopeless, directionless, and loses a sense of personal responsibility they never reestablish the characteristics necessary to recover from their decadence.

    The whole phenomenon falls under the rubric of Pathological Altruism. Check it out:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324688404578545523824389986.html
     
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    My point is really a question. Are you saying that there is no segment of White society that have been negatively affected and are suffering from generations of dependency of welfare??? We don't even have to speak of Appalachia. Let's talk about farm subsidies and corporate welfare. How can businesses be "viable" if they depend on government handouts??? But really every ethnic group has an underclass, no???
     
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    In the past communities and local charities helped the dependent, but put them to work so they would not lose their dignity. Work is required for dignity. Work ends dependency.

    Today the lower class elements of White society are moving in the same direction of dependence as the Black underclass.

    Poor Latinos are different. They have a culture of paternalism. So being dependent isn't much of a departure for them.

    Few East or South Asians are dependent. The family and the clan take care of the members. So there are no dependent classes of these folks.

    Over all there really isn't much hope to reverse this cascade of dependence, except to collapse the country, break it up, and start again.
     
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    I agree with your take on dignity. I disagree with your assertion that the White underclass is "moving in the direction" of the Black underclass, as I claim they've been there for some time.

    Keep in mind other groups are not as under attack as Black and Brown people in this society. So if one can't get a decent job, the social safety net maybe their best option besides a life of crime.

    I also have to say I'm more optimistic than you regarding changing this state of affairs.
     
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    There are roughly seven white women for every black woman so random chance would establish that the likelihood of a white woman being raped is seven-times more likely than an black woman being raped regardless of the race of the rapists. Let's add to that the fact that the majority of "whites" have anti-black prejudice that would lead to them raping fewer black women. This leads to an even greater likelihood of a white woman being raped because of the anti-black prejudice. Add to that the fact that over 40% of blacks have anti-black prejudice (that they learned from whites) and it adds to a disproportionate number of white women being raped.

    What "special rights" do blacks have in America? Sorry, but when I read the US Constitution it doesn't afford any special rights to anyone based upon race, gender, sexual orientation, or other invidious criteria. What "whites" typically complain about are anti-discrimination laws that apply to ALL races and also based upon gender but where the overwhelming violations are against African-Americans and women. They hate not being able to openly engage in invidious discrimination under the law. No one in American should be subjected to invidious discrimination as it violates their fundamental Right of Equality.
     
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    They should accept the jobs that illegal aliens perform.

    You are optimistic because you don't understand the fear and hatred sweeping the white working class.

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    None of that matters in California once the Mexicans take over a neighborhood. They cleanse the neighborhood of all young black men.
     
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    Why would poor people commit more rape? Robbery and drug crimes I can see but Rape? Also blacks are poor for teh same reason they are criminal- Low IQ, little interest in vocational education, cultural disaffinity to delayed gratification

    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Native Americans from the South West are

    So why do they rape then?

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    Do you really want a proper analysis of Probability? You are possibly the only l;eftist here who might understand probability but it means dumping the ideology and accepting mathematics..can you do it?
     
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    1.THE HOMESTEAD ACT OF 1862 IS THE REASON THE AVERAGE WHITE FAMILY HAS 12 TIMES THE NET WORTH OF THE AVG. BLACK FAMILY AND 8 TIMES AS MUCH WHEN COMPARED TO THE AVG. LATINO FAMILY. THAT WAS WELFARE EXCLUSIVE TO WHITE FOLKS. THAT'S WHY MANY OF YOU ARE LAND OWNERS, AND THAT WEALTH HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN THRU GENERATIONS. IT WAS THE LARGEST LAND GIVE AWAY BY OUR GOV. THEN THERE WERE OTHER SUCH GIVEAWAYS DURING THE 1930'S -1960'S WITH THE FED. HOUSING ADM. & HOME LOAN PROGRAM AND THE VETERANS ADM. HOME LOAN PROGRAM. THESE PROGRAMS CREATED THE MIDDLE CLASS HERE AND AGAIN EXCLUDED ALL PEOPLE OF COLOR. AID TO DEPENDENT FAMILIES WAS CREATED IN 1935 WAS EXCLUSIVE TO WHITE WOMEN FOR 25 YEARS BEFORE OTHERS GAINED ACCESS. THESE GOV HANDOUTS WENT TO WHITE FOLK, WHICH WAS PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. These are the reasons why Blacks are poorer than most Whites today. Racism pure and simple

    2.I'll cosign the reasons Shiva_TD gave and add this: FACT: Most rapes are caused by boyfriends, ex-boyfriends or acquaintances. The fact that there are more pairings of BM and WW vs WM and BW attest to this phenomena. Any more questions???
     
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    1. Why because YOU say so??? Do you advocate Whites and Asians do the same???
    2. I don't care about the White paranoia/irrational fear sweeping America. As far as I'm concerned that's everyday life here. Nothings new, even though it's a FACT that crime is down. The only difference is there's a Black man in the White House.
    3. No doubt your take on life in California is utter embellishment. Because I know the Blacks are giving as good as they get. Here in South Omaha,Ne. I'm literally surrounded by Mexicans and Latin Americans of all types and there is no such enmity between us.
     
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    If you are capable of a proper probability analysis, I would sure appreciate it. I'm a leftist, but I accept fact and science over ideology every time.
     
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    People without education or skills must choose between life and death. Their choice is their business not mine. Generally Asians are educated and skilled. The white elite is doing fine. The white working class is dying.

    Lots of white Americans are rethinking their views on African Americans because AAs want special treatment and a free lunch.


    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012...-black-latino-students-at-victorville-school/
     
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    This is an interesting observation which could explain why so many Republican (78%) have anti-black racial prejudice. The Republican Party has long been referred to as "The Party of Fear and Hate" as it constantly propagates fear and hatred in it's followers. This can probably be attributed to the fact that people of low intelligence tend to adopt "conservative ideologies" according to recent studies and those with low intelligence are more inclined to have irrational fear and hatred.

    We really have to wonder where this fear and hatred of the black man comes from.

    Are "whites" afraid of a black man getting a job when the white man is unemployed? Not likely because studies have shown that when equally qualified a white person is a 2.4 to 3.4 times more likely to get a job when compared to a black person. Are they afraid of being a victim of an anit-white hate crime being committed by a black person? Not likely because the FBI statistics show that a black person is 22-times more likely to be the victim of a race based hate crime than a white person. Are they afraid that they can't get into college because a black person may be enrolled instead of them? Not likely because 70% of white high school graduates that apply for college were admitted while only 66% of black high school graduates were admitted in 2010.

    We are really left wondering where this irrational fear and hatred from the "Right" is coming from as there is no real logical basis for it.
     
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    could it be that hate crimes are more likely to be reported as a hate crime when the victim is black because the black on white murder/rape rate is 8 times higher?
     
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    There is no such thing as anti-white racism: this is just a way for whites to defend their racism.
     
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    The FBI criteria for a "hate crime" is rather strict and it is applied across the board but there is an interesting fact to consider. Because of overall anti-black racial prejudice, even among blacks where 40% express explicit anti-black racial prejudice, it would actually be more likely that a "black crime" would be considered as meeting the criteria of a "hate crime" based upon the prejudice. We do know that there is significant anti-black racial prejudice in law enforcement overall so why would "hate crimes" somehow be an exception from this overall bias.

    Of course we can just look at demographics to understand that the odds are about 7:1 that any crime is more likely to be against a white person than a black person and, of course, rape and murder are not inherently considered to be a "race related hate crime" because they're rarely related to racial bias. "Hate crimes" are defined by Congress and the FBI addresses the criteria being applied.

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/hate_crimes/overview

    What we do have are many that attempt to use the term "hate" rather freely often calling any crime a "hate crime" especially crimes like rape. Their assumption is that the person committing the crime automatically "hates" the victim and that is rarely the case.
     
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    Racism directed at white people is anti white racism. DUHHH!
     

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