Any policies on the other side of the aisle you agree with?

Just for the hell of it, let's make an overarching political opinion thread. Most people here are either far left or far right, with the anarchists and libertarians being far gone. So just out of curiosity, is there any left-wing opinion you agree with if you're a right-winger? Is there a right-wing opinion you agree with if you're a left-winger? For myself, I am a hard right-wing conservative who thinks we can and should preserve endangered species. I'm not a fanatic about it... snail darters are a tiny fish that don't amount to a hill of beans in the food chain, for example, so why hold up a dam just for them. Apple snails, on the other hand, are the only food of the Everglades kite (a kind of small hawk), so it's worth trying to preserve apple snails and Everglades kites. I know we have one left-winger on here who believes in the 2nd amendment, so that qualifies. What about you? On what issue do you cross the aisle?

 

Left: Government is the solution to every problem.
Right: Government is the cause of every problem.
Left: Taxes are too low.
Right: Taxes are too high.
Left: Regulations are too lax.
Right: Regulations are too cumbersome.
Left: Freedom from religion.
Right: Freedom of religion.
Left: Speech should only be free if it's "correct".
Right: Speech is only free if it's free for everyone, correct or not.
Left: My fee-fees!
Right: Logic! Facts! Truth!
Left: Truth is subjective.
Right: Truth is objective.
Left: Guns are evil!
Right: Criminals are evil and guns keep us safe from them.
Left: Government = Big Daddy who takes care of us.
Right: Government = Big Brother who will rule as much of our lives as it can get away with.
Left: Mother Earth.
Right: The earth is given to humans as a dominion to rule over.
Left: Rich people = evil, poor people = good.
Right: Everyone is equal in their rights to property, rich and poor. It is no more just to take from the rich to give to the poor than it would be to take from the poor to give to the rich.
Left: White people = evil, brown people = good. (Asians make the left squirm.)
Right: Everyone is equal in their ability to be good and evil. Historical oppression of brown people is not sufficient justification for present oppression of white people.

I'm sure I'll think of more later.

 

Yep, you are a right winger alright, based on the list of this caricature of left right talking points directly fed from right wing radio and trash blogs. So much for logic...

But, I'll bite. I am on the liberal side, so here is where I agree with the right:

-I am against abortion.
-I am for strong property rights.
-I would prefer if the government could balance its budget.
-I agree with free market capitalism --- if backed by a strong social component.
-I am a strong proponent of family values.
-I think it is important for kids to have a father at home.

And the list goes on.

 

I'm in limbo but lean conservative. Most of the stuff I'd say would. Be obious

Interning US citizens into concentration camps based on race. Like FDR.

I don't actually want to do this, but couldn't resist the answer.

 

If selling a gay couple a wedding cake means a "Christian" baker participated in their marriage,
does selling a gun to a person that will kill another person with that weapon, mean a "Christian" gun store owner participated in the murder?

 

I'm libertarian so this will be a bit more difficult:


I really like how you're not afraid to challenge the establishment. Although this is an odd time to make this point historically it's been very difficult to get the right to support antiestablishment candidates and ideas.

I agree broadly on most civil liberties -that is, straight equality of treatment from the state.

I agree on drug issues, and almost always go further than the left.

I agree on natural law. I don't think it's a solid basis for anything. You can't get an ought from an is.

I agree on WAR! Well, not with your candidates but if I just have a chat to the average leftist most want to stick to defense of the homeland and stop the foreign adventurism.

I agree on corporations (sort of). Since its usually a battle between establishment right and left, I don't think leftists really grasp just how contrary to Capitalism the current corporatist system really is. I don't support limited liability, subsidies, patents and IP, cartelizing industries to get votes, etc.

As far as the right goes...

I think you're 100% correct on nationalist issues at the moment. We are in the biggest political skirmish of the century at the moment - whether we adopt the regional sovereignty model or keep (or rather, renew) national sovereignty. I doubt you'd apply this further down the government.

I think LePen's niece is hot as ****.

I agree emphatically on free speech issues whereas I used to agree emphatically with your opposition. I didn't change my view at all.

 

Only if, as in the instance of the baker, the gun store owner knew the person buying the gun was going to kill someone with it. That would make him an accessory before the fact.

 

Not that FDR was correct, but let's be accurate here... The internment during WWII was NOT based on race but on nationality, since the ONLY people interned were those of Japanese extraction. Chinese, Koreans, and Indochinese citizens were not interned, and they all belong to the same race as the Japanese.

Mehehehehe. A study found that right-wing women tend to be more attractive physically than left-wing women. Other than actual lesbians, I find this somewhat surprising since most of the physically attractive women I know tend to be pretty far left of center.

 

Hmm...lets see, Post 9-11 Gibill, but Obama expanded it making it worthwhile really.

What in the royal f**k...is this the BS Trump supporters have been spoon fed to think of the left?
Iv got to get the source of this misinformation.
I'm a start my search with, lemme guess..faux news, an Mark Levin/Rush...commercialized talk radio?

Given the underlined shouldn't global warming and emissions laws make such a thing sound....we should not destroy our own home, to obtain the "GOP's almighty dollar".

Edit: Unghaa, getting off topic.

 

Both...it depends on the issue.

Taxes are too low for the upper tax brackets.

Both...depends in what area.

Freedom from religion. This is not a theocracy.

I strongly believe in freedom of speech, but it's not a license to spread misinformation, or not to expect a response.

No idea what this means.

This opens up an entire can of worms on the philosophy of "truth".

Guns are inanimate, but the sociological beliefs that have been primarily promulgated by the NRA exacerbate the problem.

The government is We The People.

The earth is a finite resource and I like living here, so yes, pro-earth.

Highly simplistic, but from a historical perspective, the wider the gap between rich and poor, the greater the danger of political unrest.

Both extremes are wrong and miss the forest thru the trees.

 

My opinions are my own, thank you very much.

About what I would expect from a "mother earth" type.

Now that you bring up Bush's GI Bill, that brings up one policy that I disagree with both left and right on, and that's the Patriot Act. That is the most offensive insult to liberty and democracy that has been promulgated by government in the last 50 years, and even though Obama campaigned on repealing it, he expanded it and the NSA spied on American citizens under Obama's watch. And STILL no one's head has rolled as a result of the IRS targeting conservative groups in clear defiance of federal law.

 

I am mostly a conservative and tend to dislike most of the liberal-leaning policies except for one thing: ensuring a living wage for those who work full-time hours. I am also slightly in favor of having more regulations from the government, provided that there is really good reason for them. I don't believe that a big government will solve every problem however the opposite, which is letting corporations have more and more influence on our lives is even worse (than having a bigger government). At least the government is accountable to the people (in theory).

 

Yep..100% agree, well disagree with that policy as well.
But...despite popular belief it was not conservatives targeted..but abusers of a system...the majority of them just happen to be conservative.

Unfortunately for me I'm the religious left leaner type...Another thing I can agree with the right is all the Atheist preaching...I wish my side would knock that crap off.

 

I don't believe you.

 

In theory, it seems that left leaning women should be hotter, since the big left/right divide is between married and single women. The married women should be older so therefore: less hot. However it may be balanced by the fact that a lot of young uggo girls are attracted to leftism since it devalues femininity, and if you're an ugly woman, you probably can't compete on that. But if you are a hot young single girl, the patriarchy is a system that works pretty well for you, since you benefit from your hottness.

More studies are required, preferably with pictures.

 

There are not a lot of issues I side with the left on since once you know what your philosophy and worldview is, virtually everything else flows from that. However one issue that I disagree with much of the right on is taxes. I'm not taxaholic and think that if the people want something, they should pay for it. Right now the left and right is more than happy to deficit spend as long as they can get away with it, and if it collapses the country, so be it. However I want sound fiscal policy and a balanced budget, and since we're never going to cut enough to get there just from spending cuts, then it should be tax increases.

As an aside, I think my position ultimately benefits the right. People don't care how much a program costs (if it fees good, do it) because they aren't really paying for it. If they were paying for it, they would change their minds quick. A good example is single payer. Vermont and California are very deep blue states that considered various single payer plans, and ultimately discarded them. Why? Because they cost too much. However they are all for a federal single payer plan because no one would pay for it; it would just be added to the national deficit (until we lose the ability to do that).

So I'm opposed to most of the current Republican tax cutting ideas. I do favor tax reform, but that's different from just cutting taxes.

 

This is so dumb and biased.

 

I am now re-purposing this thread. In here we write what we think the other sides views are. Because that's obviously what you did.

Right: Blacks and gays are a plight on society and must be eliminated.
Left: Uh...what?
Right: Oh. Did I say that out loud? I meant to say 'White lives matter, too' and 'Gay marriage is tyranny.'
Left: That's less dumb, I guess.

Right: Freedom of religion for all *cough*Christians*cough*
Left: What was that?
Right: Whoops. I meant to say 'No sharia law.' Or better yet, no Muslims.
Left: I heard that whispering. That's racist.
Right: Muslims aren't a race. Checkmate, libz.

Right: Racism has been dead since 1964. If blacks haven't caught up yet, that's on them.
Left: The Civil Rights Act of 1964 didn't end racism. It just made it illegal for places of public accommodation (e.g., hotels, restaurants) to refuse service on the basis of race and certain other factors.
Right: Exactly. Racism is dead. Checkmate libz. Although Congress had no power to enact that in the first place.
Left: The Supreme Court disagreed. It found that Congress had that power under the Commerce Clause.
Right: Back when the court was packed with a bunch of libz.
Left: Even the republican justices joined the majority opinion.
Right: Whatever lib.

 

I've got more.

Right: Only leftists commit acts of violence.
Left. Uh...what about Dylann Roof? Timothy McVeigh?
Right: They weren't real conservatives.
Left: It is very convenient that you can just dismiss as not conservative anyone who openly identified as conservative prior to (and often subsequent to) committing acts of horrendous violence.
Right: Just like you guys disowned Hitler?
Left: The consensus among historians is that Hitler was extremely conservative.
Right: Liberal historians. Remember, Hitler's party was called the National Socialist German Worker's Party. Plus Hitler was a gun grabber. Checkmate, libz.

Right: Global warming is a lie manufactured by Jhina and the globalists.
Left: The vast majority of scientists are telling us that global warming is real, and that human influence is a significant cause.
Right: Those scientists are just saying that so we'll keep paying them to conduct more "tests." They're skewing the results to keep themselves relevant. If they told us that global warming didn't exist, they'd have to find other jobs.
Left: Seems like with their education and expertise they could probably find other jobs if they had to. Besides, this is a conspiracy theory. Are you telling me the vast majority of scientists are in on it?
Right: Jhina keeps them in line.

 

The left has NO policies to offer. All they offer is hatred of Trump.

 

If he tells me he's going to murder some one with the gun I am about to sell him he doesn't get the gun. Like wise if you tell me the cake is for a gay wedding you don't get the cake.

 

The Left doesn't have an agenda except resistance and hate. How do they think that's playing to middle America? Just to be clear, it's not going over in a positive way, people.

 

I am a fence straddler on healthcare. I think everyone should be covered and it should not be a huge for profit system bloated with insurance companies and administrators.

 

I am a Democrat, but I do believe we should work harder for a balanced budget, I am sympathetic with some regulation on abortion, and I do think that free market options to specific problems should be the default options. its only when the markets cannot solve a problem that we should look to regulation or nationalization.