APNewsBreak: Border wall models thwart US commandos in tests

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  1. mdrobster

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    i am curious to the cost.
     
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    uh, what?
     
  3. BillRM

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    Odd as the normal military load out of a soldier is around a hundred pounds and they do march miles over deserts carrying that load.
     
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    This guy has never seen a Mexican work, those guys are work machines.
     
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    I know. I did it.

    Mexican civilians are not going to be capable of doing it.

    Drug mules probably can though.

    We'll just identify them by their broken legs on the other side of the wall.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see you don't understand what a strawman is either.

    You said it was easy.

    Prove it.
     
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    Go to youtube and play the Trump Hollywood tape.
     
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    lol,

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/380767-how-much-weight-can-the-average-man-lift/

    is 63 pounds more or less than the numbers above? :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
  9. BillRM

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    Odds as the Mexicans I know of in the south florida area. I guess due to the type of labor they tend to do. are in better shape then the average American.
     
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    See this is a perfect example of how stupid your argument is.

    Lifting something, and carrying it through the desert to then climb a 30+ foot wall and rappel down the other side, is in no way equivalent.

    Show us a video of you carrying that ladder for a couple miles then scaling a 30 foot wall, until then, you're just presenting the typical stupid liberal argument.
     
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    Really? Goebbels smoebbels, I really do not give a you know what how I come across; I am not a contestant in a "Mr. Popularity" contest. Do you really want to go there? They are freeloaders because they use amenities that they do not pay for. They are freeloaders because they are here illegally and money has to be secured to either ensure their safety or to track them down and deport them. They are freeloaders because their presence establishes a conduit for more to enter as parents and relatives, when many are neither the parents nor relatives of the protectorates of many Democrats, many Republicans and many so-called Independents. Even some of the children (DACA classified) are children of those who are here on work visa; parents intentionally have children in an effort to stay in country, which is a violation of immigration laws. Moreover, many of the children are not born in the U.S. which is a breach of U.S. immigration rules to classify them as U.S. citizens or even give them amnesty; they are not citizens.

    In addition to what I have mentioned, the good ole U.S. of A. is used as a dumping ground for many of those nations to alleviate their excess population problems, so I guess you are saying that such behavior is acceptable in your mind?
     
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    Well I guess we'll find out.
     
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    add surveilance drones with a rapid response team, and the job is done for pennies to the dollar.
     
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    No one is trying to make it impossible to cross. Just more difficult.

    I would've thought the left had a grasp on that concept, given the most common arguments in favor of gun control.

    That being said, I support neither. But lets be genuine here.
     
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    Yes people this is the thinking of your average Trump supporter so draw you own conclusion about the correctness of such 'thinkings'

    One thing those if we do reelected Trump we should just melt down all the copper and steel in the statue of liberty and sell it at junk metal prices.
     
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    Name one of those things that isn't true.
     
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    Bring us your dregs, your uneducated, your unskilled, your criminals, your mentally challenged, your masses yearning for free stuff.
     
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    of course it is, but nobody said anything about rappelling down the other side.

    oh look, another strawman.
     
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    You should really look up the definition of strawman, as that's twice now you've embarrassed yourself with that.

    Great. I eagerly await watching youtube videos of Mexicans vaulting over the wall with ease and grace.

    I was hoping you could show us how it's done, but it seems you have no interest, sadly.
     
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    by pointing out you made one? Lol, ok.
    ok
    correct, I have no interest in slaying your strawman.
     
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    Sure, I'll explain it for you.

    A strawman would be an argument inserted that does not address the actual topic being discussed.

    Since we've been talking about the wall, scaling the wall, if they can or cannot get through, it could never be a strawman to ask you to prove your assertions about the standing topic.

    I'm used to liberals not understanding logical fallacies though, as they live in a gigantic one in their own heads in many cases.
     
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    Lol, no. A strawman is an argument you make up, and attribute it to me.
    Asking me to provide a video of me scaling a 30-50 ft wall is, lol.
    Don't you feel embarrassed when you post this bullshit?
     
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    The attitude that you present reveals exactly what you are and that is a person of prepubescent mentality. Such condescension denotes an arrogant person who thinks that they are above others in intelligence; such lack of mental growth and maturity is fitting of a Liberal or some other Leftist quack.

    I take serious the things that I see are detrimental to not only myself but others as well be because everything that takes place in life leaves a permanent and indelible mark. Leave it to persons such as you to attempt to belittle, ridicule and marginalize and important issue such extreme population expansion which is part of the death of a nation.
     
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    Sure.

    Except you did make the argument about getting over the wall, and then I attributed it to you.

    You can go ahead and keep calling it a strawman if you'd like.

    You're not hurting me, I could care less.

    Not really doing yourself any favors with it though.

    I do feel embarrassed, but it's entirely for you.

    Asking you to post a video of something you claim is easy is quite logical.

    We both know you can't do it though, so please continue on squirting your invisible ink into the water in self defense.
     
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    Extension ladders weigh 2 pounds minimum per foot of length, as a facility engineering rule of thumb. A 32 footer, the minimum needed, equates to dragging 64 pounds across the desert, or two carrying it. Gets old very fast. Ask any house maintenance people. Not cheap either. But I agree, they should have tried ladders at five or ten miles distance just to see how well ladders worked and how much it took out of them, and how safe ladders are in that application.
     
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