Apparently, George Zimmerman is not quite the monster that people thought he was

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  1. Ex-lib

    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think the OP comes off ridiculous at all. And I'm less screwed up about this thing than you are.

    You are putting too much thought on race when you should be trying to DISCARD the view of race. Race doesn't matter; skin color doesn't matter. It doesn't matter now, it doesn't matter then, it doesn't matter in any situation.

    People aren't like you CLAIM to think they are. Wake up.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe that's because you aren't neutral.
     
  3. RosePop

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    I am shocked that you were in prison for 19 years, shocked I tell ya!
     
  4. Ex-lib

    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't make fun of people.

    Let me address your signature:

    "Arguing with conservatives is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, sh*t all over everything, and then strut around acting victorious."

    At least a Conservative is too good at chess to think he can gain anything by taking up a game of chess with a pigeon.
     
  5. mdrobster

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    Yeah right, it was all part of God's Plan, ref: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout...eject-george-zimmerman-apology-130326614.html

    Then he asks for forgiveness, if he is the victim, he doesn't need forgiveness.

    One thing is sure, if he does get convicted, he can ask for an appeal because his lawyer must be a fool to allow that languange to go on national TV.
     
  6. MisLed

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    emt reports. Photos and forensic evidence at the scene and at the police station. You'd think with all this hoopla youTM guys would have your ducks in a row. Not you Rose. At the poster you responded to with the above.
     
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    well sure. GZ would be dead from blunt head trauma. Would you be happier then?
     
  8. mdrobster

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    Liked the editorial, but thanks for shedding some light, I never considered Zimmerman's mental health.
     
  9. RosePop

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    Well if this isnt the pot calling the kettle black...
     
  10. MisLed

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    Um well Md...i wouldn't take johnny's pure take on this. He didn't see the interview. I saw that part. GZ meant and he clarified it that he meant he would not have changed anything that he had done at the police station, meaning his co-operation complete and total with no lawyer present. He was totally transparent.

    Neither did he know that TM was dead until an hour after the fact. Initially he didn't think he'd hit TM. Because TM sat up briefly and said something like you got it ( GZ thought he meant the gun and that tm was not fighting anymore) or you got me. He's not sure.
     
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    like I said earlier in this thread, if Martin had killed Zimmerman, Zimmerman would of paid with his life and Martin would be the one facing a trial by jury
     
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    Ofcourse not...once he said it was "god's plan", all the religious nut-jobs understood!
     
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    so either way someone had to die. What y'all are so mad about is that it was Trayvon and not george?
     
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    Trayvon was our nations youth. He was well on his way to attending the University of Florida, he was going into aeronautics and had dreams, inspired by Obama to become the nations first actual full black president. He was president of the glee club, coached youth football leagues and spent every sunday morning teaching inner city youth about christ. In his spare time he would mentor young children who were missing their fathers and was just about to start his first year in the Big Brothers program, dont ya know?
     
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    No Zimmerman was turned into a monster because the media played it that way from the beginning knowing that a white on black violent affair makes for great ratings. So knowing nothing about the situation the media took this one full force playing the race card, using out dated pictures, doctoring video and audio, and just straight up being untruthful.

    And of course it worked, shock journalism from the left at its finest. About 25% truth and 75% lies and deception. Gotta get those ratings and push that bull(*)(*)(*)(*) agenda. Wouldn't want obamas would be sons death at the hands of a white guy, excuse me "white Hispanic", to go to waste now would we?

    Shame the media won't cover black on white violence the same way, then again it doesn't fit their agenda.
     
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    If it had been George that was buried this would be a non story basically. It's ok when black kills a white, or a white Hispanic.
     
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    You're both hinging your conclusions of what Conservatives think by simultaneously projecting what you think actually happened over any conclusion a Conservative is drawing.

    In point of fact, Conservatives think two things, and it covers any contingency in this incident:

    1) If Zimmerman was in fact "pursuing" Martin, you and any other pro-Martinite have no chance of credibly supporting the notion that Zimmerman would ever have even a prayer of catching Martin. We don't believe that, and I don't think you believe that - though it's obvious you'll never admit it.

    If that is the case, how frightened should the extremely fast person be of the slower person? Somehow, they ended up face to face. That means that Martin wanted the confrontation; it's not logical to conclude anything else.

    2) I believe that Zimmerman was simply trying to keep an eye on where Martin went, and lost track of him. When he did, he began turning back. He gave up. I believe that Martin was watching Zimmerman do this from cover, and then made his move to confront Zimmerman.


    None of which squares with the impression either one of you wish to paint of Martin, but - nonetheless - there it is.

    And it is why people like you are wrong, and not people like me.
     
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    That is correct. I don't see how anyone can cling to what the prosecution is trying to sell here.
     
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    It was months ago that we were reading about the witness who got there and was told by George to call the police because he had shot someone. this was within minutes after the shot was fired. And now he says he did not think he had hit him???? He was laying face down on the grass, not moving. To me that would be a pretty good indication that if he was not dead he was not far from it. His story keeps changing so much. His lawyer had to be in shock to set there and listen to george stick his foot in his mouth. I seen the interview too, can't believe you saw what you saw. I saw Hannity ask him if there was anything he would do different. No Sir was his answer. After all this time I would think people would figure out what Trayvon was saying "You shot me" not "you got me "
     
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    Pray this, pray that, god this, god that, pray, pray, god, god.........


    Oh yeah, his lawyer didn't coach him.
     
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    If Crump had coached him it would be lie,lie,lie and lie some more....
     
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    unlikely. he was seventeen, wasn't he?
     
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    shortly thereafter, he clarified and said to sean that he thought sean meant at the Police station. Now tell me. If you used your gun on a guy that was intent on beating your brains out on the sidewalk, would you regret pulling the gun. I didn't hear him SAY that but i would certainly think it.

    Anyway. I think if the law does right, he'll be acquitted or found innocent based on witness and police evidence.
     
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    That interview has no bearing on the case, and you don't anything about the case either, so hence your comments about details are as arbitrary as any other fiction writing.
     
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    Are you still disabused of the notion that Hispanic is a race or color rather than a language group?
     
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