Apparently, George Zimmerman is not quite the monster that people thought he was

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  1. RosePop

    RosePop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can afford good Port, like I would drink that crap. I dont get that crap anyways, if you are just adding juice and candy, why not just drink the (*)(*)(*)(*) cough syrup out of the bottle and skip the juice and candy?
     
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    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Zimmerman is the dumb ass who strapped on a gun, went and picked a fight, and lost the fight, and shot a kid. What a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

    I've been beaten bloody, and never got to shot any of the people who did.

    When he goes to jail, he better hope some hispanic gang will forget about his "code", and jump him in. He probably won't find a gang who will, so he'll spend the whole time in Ad Seg, and have one hour of exercize a day.
     
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    The thing that contributed to travon martins death was a 9mm slug fired by the zimman. Do you deny anything that was said about george? And just how many opportunistic
    whores do you know, or maybe pay. I know it's cold up there in Alaska so I won't be judgmental.
     
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    If Zimmerman was 200 lbs of muscle, I'd be likely to agree with you. But a tall 158 lbs, (*)(*)(*)(*) near adult could most certainly overwhelm a pudgy, likely way out of shape 200 lbs guy. Not all big guys are strong, especially fat, out of shape ones.
     
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    I have a friend who is a slim 145 lbs, and he's strong as (*)(*)(*)(*). I'm a 185 lbs guy who strength trains, and he routinely gives me fits when we grapple.
     
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    Again, I need to see documentation for this POS post
     
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    OR NOT !!

    Watch him walk free in the end, with a book deal, interviews, the works.

    More folks are packing legal arms every day. Survey says there's gonna be more blacks shot by whites until the black community starts to curb its culture of violence.

    Check out this video. That old white guy is not playing around. The two black punks won't be trying this again anytime soon.

    [video=youtube;1t5f5AwkkiY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t5f5AwkkiY[/video]
     
  8. Agrona

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    Basically his attorney figured this was the best way to get a change of venue. Like that'll help.
     
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    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's entriely possible ED.

    I can't watch the video, it's blocked here at work.

    Are there people who think he might get off?...last I heard, they were thinking he'd get manslaughter. But I'm really not up on the court case.
     
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    I just wish both sides would look at this objectively. The left is dishonest when they paint a 17 year old man to be this defenseless kid, and Zimmerman this 200 lbs hulk. The right is dishonest when they assume this guy was a gangster with nefarious intentions.

    This could have been Zimmerman instigating it, and then taking to too far by shooting him. Or perhaps Trevan was way too aggressive when George confronted him, was beating his ass, and George had no choice but to shoot him because his life was in danger. Maybe it was just a big misunderstanding between the two, that escalated. We'll probably never know for sure.

    I will say this though. George was stupid for confronting him, if he really felt Trevon was doing something wrong, he should have called the police. Sad that something easily avoidable like this happened.
     
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    Then why didn't you stop it since you were there?
     
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    Oh yes, lol, like he wants to change the venue in a mostly white Seminole County, lol, durrrrrrrrr.
     
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    Travon had the right to free speech also. Too bad he can't speak for himself,huh?
     
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    He did call the police, and they showed up within 20 seconds of the shooting.
     
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    I think the video is worth the watch, if you get a chance later, regardless of the Z case. Just last Friday, at an internet cafe in Ocala. Less than a minute, and the old guy comes up blasting away. He is not playing games at all ! Pretty ballsy.

    As for Z getting off. There is plenty of opinion out there starting with such as Allen Derschowitz, saying such. But if it goes to trial, we will see. I do not see a lesser charge, or a plea bargain.
     
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    He'll take anything he can get to stay out of prison cause he knows bubba's waiting, lol
     
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    im 265 lbs all fat little muscle a bit like zimmermans build and if a little boy like trayvon attacked me i would sit on him but i would never reach for a pistol that is just an over reaction
     
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    Fair enough, he should have not confronted him though. Not a criminal action, but a pretty stupid one.
     
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    I'm 185 lbs, I have friends smaller than me, and they'd all kick the crap out of you. Some of the comments here show that some of you know nothing about hand to hand combat.
     
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    There is no evidence that George confronted Trayvon. Frankly, I can't imagine George possibly catching up to him either. The evidence strongly suggests that it was M who came back and confronted Z. What happened exactly then, we may never know, although George's story makes more sense, and is more borne out by the evidence, than any alternative conjecture.

    But again, there is zero evidence that George confronted Trayvon.
     
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    That's the problem with this story. Too much conjecture, with positions taken along racial and political lines, it seems.
     
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    I can only hope that they bring someone in that has some knowledge on hand to hand combat to explain to the jurors, so a logical conclusion can be reached. Travon is a teenager, Zimmerman is 200 lbs+ adult is a faulty conclusion.

    Trevon could have easily been stronger, was likely in much better shape, and Zimmerman was fat. Assuming they got to the ground off a clinch position, it's possible that Zimmerman exerted a lot of force to get Travon down, and failed due to Travon possibly being stronger and certainly more athletic. Not to mention, tall guys are hard to take down from a clinch position, especially if you do not have the proper technique. From there, Trevon could have been hitting him and pounding his head into the pavement, leaving Zimmerman no choice.

    Not saying that's what happened, or even the likely outcome, but it's certainly plausible, and refutes the Trevon being a kid nonsense.
     
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    One of my favorite MMA fighters is big country Roy Nelson and he disproves your entire theory that 265lb pot belly fat guys like Zimmerman don't have hidden strength to take down skinny guys like Trayvon with ease....

    Tell that to Him.
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    Well lets leave your fantasies out of this.
     
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    All I know...is that I am for gun carry rights...and I'm not compelled to believe the shooting was racially motivated...the following of Martin may have been racially motivated, or maybe Zimmerman was just Barney Fife'ing around.

    If Zimmerman is being truthfull, and he thought Martin might shoot him, the "stand your ground" law allows him to shoot Martin to avoid retreat.

    That's what I think is wrong with the stand your ground law.

    You should gravitate towards retreat whenever possible, if confronted by armed or violent people.

    The only people who approve of "not retreating" are probably people who haven't seen what happens when someone is shot, or beaten, except in Stephen Segal movies.

    Whwn I lived in East San Jose CA, a racially "diverse" neighborhood, there was a shooting happening during a car jacking outside a shopping mall in an intersection. When the shooting started, the people around me started running, and I stood there. As one of the people ran by, he slowed down a bit as I stood staring at the road, and said "hey!...when black people run, you run too!!!!"...and flew by.

    Standing your ground is for suckers, and if Zimmerman wouldn't have been a sucker, he'd have a crooked nose, and Martin would be alive, albeit maybe in Juvy
     
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