Are Atheists Afraid of God?

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  1. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry but someone telling you that you are going to hell is not oppression.

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    Is there a witch burning somewhere this weekend?

    A nine page thread and not one of you liberals can show any Christian oppression.

    I think this proves I am right.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you saying Christianity doesn't exist?

    Here is some news for you, the AARP does not exist either, it is just a bunch of people lobbying for something they believe in.

    Wow, just wow
     
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    I have no problems at all about gay rights group lobbying government, nor would I have any qualms environment groups and even animal rights groups lobbying government, as these are secular issues. I do have problems with Christians and other religious groups for that matter sticking their noses where they aren't wanted in secular issues.

    Would you condone Muslims lobbying your government on issues that may effect you?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely, any group is allowed to lobby, that is what a free society is about. What you are saying is that only certain groups are allowed to petition congress.

    Nothing more unamerican than that.
     
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    Just as long as religious groups keep their noses out of secular issues, then I don't give a bugger.







    Ummmmmm,, I'm not American..
     
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    I didn't say that Islam, and other religions, are oppressing me necessarily, I say that they are oppressive. It is okay to consider one's fellow man and not just oneself when forming social opinions, right? When it comes to Christianity, the oppression would include gays being unable to marry. And if you want to step outside of oppression and include other religion-made problems, then there is the problem with scientific inquiry being rejected because it goes against the Bible. Most notably, the Theory of Evolution. And wouldn't it be nice if someday a person who would make an excellent American president would not be rejected as a candidate simply because he or she was an atheist?
     
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    The poster I was responding to that started this discussion said that he didn't like religions efforts to oppress him so I asked how he was being oppressed or what efforts were underway to oppress him. As we can see, nobody can bring up anything.

    On top of that, gay marriage is a social issue and plenty of non Christians are also against it. In fact, 31 states amended their constitutions to outlaw it and then the courts overturned it. That is not a Christian movement.

    Also, most Christians do believe in evolution and science.
     
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    Which god are atheists afraid of?
     
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    All of them except for maybe the satanic cults.
     
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    If an Atheist worships Satan, wouldn't he/she be a Theist, since Satan would be a central deity?
     
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    KKK
    Westboro Baptist Church
    Russian Orthodox terrorists
    Catholic priests molesting kids and the coverups

    To name a few, which are quite recent and most still occurring.

    Spreading hate, fear, death, and destroying the youth. Yeah believers are completely harmless to society.
     
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    Can you support this post or are you just blabbering on?
     
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    So Christians do not fear God and the threat of Hell? I wonder where the term God Fearing Christian comes from?
     
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    I would argue religious people are afraid; religious people are afraid of death.

    If it turns out that a god (to think that your god is somehow right and all before were wrong is incredibly arrogant) exists then I wouldn't care. I would rather spend an eternity in hell (or what ever is there) then spend time with a supposed all-good, all-powerful, all-knowing god that does nothing to stop the evil actions and horrible problems in the world.

    I can accept the fact that when I die that I will fade in nothingness; religious people can not which is why they cling to beliefs that have no basis in fact and ideas that can not stand even the slightest independent scrutiny.
     
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    One GIANT question: How does one fear something that one doesn't believe exists ?


    Another smaller question: Aren't christians told to fear god?
     
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    LOL In point of fact the Christian belief in "heaven" is actually "hell" for the atheist. Think about becoming a mind-controlled slave of a tyrannical super-entity that would create a place like "hell" to begin with? How many millions of years would it take until singing "Kumbaya" becomes unendurable torture? What about the poor man that married once to the "first love of his life" and when she passed away he remarried the "second love of his life" but when he gets to heaven the two women hate each other? That would certainly be a "living hell" by any definition.

    At least if we, the atheists, end up in "hell" we'll be free people and not the slaves of a tyrannical super-entity.

    "Give me Liberty or Send Me to Hell."
     
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    In point of fact that's arguably the reason that mankind has invented thousands of different religions throughout history.

    What's funny is that all of the thousands of different religions claimed they were the "One True Religion" establishing that the odds against of any of them being the "One True Religion" are over 1000:1.
     
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    that would be better said to be one 'universal' religion, and the only way that is possible is to be perfectly secular, not the atheist version we are forced to live under today but the true meaning of secular in which it infringes on no ones religion.

    That said since murder is wrong in everyones religion that is one that could be used as a public wrong, refraining from eating pork on the other hand would not since it belongs to a specific group and they can practice their religion as they see fit but not force it on to anyone else.
     
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    Why would I be afraid of what I do not believe exists? As a child and young person I really wanted to believe, so I studied the bible and went to church, kept all the tenets of my chosen religion, but in the end it just didn't make sense to me and I left.

    Almost every religion I've ever encountered claims that they are the only religion approved by God, that everyone else is wrong, that love should prevail and that peace should be sought. Unfortunately, what religion actually does is divide people, practice hate and promote war. Individual adherents within their group may be fine people, but sadly as a group religions have caused and continue to cause mayhem and agony in the world.
     
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    So....is their any actual religion at all, and is it okay to make laws based on any one aspect of anything written by any religious text?

    Why would ANYONE decide to follow ANY religion at all?
     
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    ones religion may also be a social issue since the only way one can exercise their religion in public is to be seen by others in public. (Thats what liberty is)

    Despite what anyone thinks about gays, marriage is an element of 'their' religion and the state has no authority to infringe upon it any more than they did to pass bigamy laws against the mormons.

    Neither did the state have any 'legitimate' authority to infringe upon the wedding cake people for refusing to bake a damn cake.

    Yet they did, and continue to do so, and they will forever continue to do unless people wake up.
     
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    You say wife beating is wrong, the next person says you know he is right, I'll practice not beating the wife too, presto a religion is born.

    Now if the whole world agrees with that premise universally then you have a universal religion and its fair game to be made into some form of 'secular' "universal" law as it now veritably neutral amongst all religions.
     

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