Are Republicans Ashamed of the "You Didn't Build That" Rhetoric?

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  1. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    He said, and meant, that YOU didn't build it, no matter how far you want to stretch your delusions.
     
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    In the end, the speech is useless as guide to public policy if all he meant to say is that successful men don't do it alone. What are we supposed to take from that anyway? No, I think there's a bit more to it than what you want us to think.
     
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    We take the entire speech. He said what he said.
     
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    The phrase "taxes are a good thing" means very little since it says nothing about:
    a) What taxes are good for
    b) What a government should do
     
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    "Our individual salvation depends on our collective salvation." ~ Barack Obama

    "It's time to put the common good, the national interest, ahead of individuals." ~ Hillary Clinton

    "It's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential." ~ Barack Obama

    "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. " ~ Hillary Clinton

    "I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe." ~ Hillary Clinton

    "Government is the only thing we all belong to" ~ DNC

    "If you have a business...You didn't build that... somebody else made that happen" ~ Barack Obama

    "When you spread the wealth around it’s good for everybody." ~ Barack Obama

    "In America, we have this strong bias toward individual action. You know, we idolize the John Wayne hero who comes in to correct things with both guns blazing. But individual actions, individual dreams, are not sufficient. We must unite in collective action, build collective institutions and organizations.” ~ Barack Obama

    Awake yet, punks?
     
  6. The Real American Thinker

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    You don't take the entire speech, and if you do, then you're bloody dishonest. Or you have no reading comprehension.
     
  7. The Real American Thinker

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    If you want to demonize the word "collective" to always mean the same thing in every context, sure.
     
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    By reading it you could take it the wrong way. By hearing it and actually watching what he said you can't. Anyone that argues today that he actually said that is ashamed that they have been fighting for a wrong cause for a long time and just want to justify it anyway they can. They know they are wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=192oEC5TX_Q
     
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    Individuals didn't build a system where we now pay more into SS than we will get back. Didn't build a nuclear bomb to drop on a civilian population. Didn't build an imperialistic world police. Didn't build a system that bails out banking failures, chooses winners and losers, subsidizes, and decides who should be imprisoned for actions that affect no other individual.

    Nope, they built that.
     
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    I'm not a Republican but not a bit ashamed of using that so-called rhetoric. Hopefully Obama will pay on election day for saying something so stupid.
     
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    Um, bridges and roads? And other infrastructure?
     
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    So let's see. He claims that business owners think they're smart, but they're not. He claims business owners think they work hard, and the VERY NEXT THING HE SAYS is that if you've got a business, you didn't build that. Was he talking about infrastructure in the grand scheme of things? Yes. But he was also pandering to the godless heathen liberals who hate anyone successfull by claiming the people who think they are better because they've built a business aren't because they didn't really build that. Obama is not an idiot. He knew what he was saying and knew he could pander to his audience while his faithless followers would bend over backwards to pretend he REALLY meant something other than what he said.

    And here we have someone trying to pretend that since that is singular, it MUST mean the infrastructureS Obama was talking about like roads, the Internet, etc. which is plural. :lol: Anyone else surprised? However, when one is talking about A person having A business, the singular "that" makes perfect sense.

    It doesn't matter what the truth is. Liberals make a living out of bending, twisting or outright raping the truth.
     
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    And that's really what it comes down to. The Left is trying to defend the indefensible by claiming it was taken out of context. The context is even worse than the statement. The whole speech was screaming, "You didn't build that!"
     
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    Why would Obama create the strawman? What successful business person believes that he created his business entirely on his own? None. We collaborate with other businesses, with our clients and customers. We have mentors, and friends and family who share in the sacrifice to some extent. However, what we who are in business do know is that we didn't get where we are because of government bureaucrats. We take the risks with our own money and time and energy; we find the opportunities; we make the sacrifices and, if we find the right combination and stick to it, the profit is what we earn in return.

    Government plunders, keeps much of it for friends of government and gives a little bit away to those who will vote for more plundering. It is not the friend of the productive, it is the enemy.
     
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    That has been my point the whole time. The rest of the speech is more offensive than the one line you hear about. Every time I read that speech, I am infuriated.
     
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    I believe you're smarter and read better than that, so I'm going to file this away under "dishonesty."
     
  17. Hoosier8

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    It is pretty obvious with his tone that he was lecturing business.

    What Obama leaves out of that is that government did not invent the internet but funded it on a wartime basis and it only flourished because of the private sector.

     
  18. The Real American Thinker

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    Perhaps, but not with the message you claim. The message is also obvious.

    I never claimed he was right. and if all you guys were doing was addressing how he was wrong based on what he said I wouldn't care and would probably agree. It's when you blatantly misrepresent what was said that I take issue, and that goes for liberals and Romney, too.
     

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