Arm the teachers...seriously?

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  1. Bow To The Robots

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    That is sadly one of the best things teachers can train on these days.
     
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    Please cite the post in which I suggested this should be a requirement. You won’t find it because it is not there.

    As to the inane suggestion that you or another teacher would shoot your students, perhaps you should find another line of work as it seems you hold your profession in very low regard.
     
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    You deny that criminals disregard the law?
     
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    Or learn to defend yourself and your students. I’d be happy to teach you. I’ve taken people out who’ve never even held a gun and in 30 minutes they are hitting their targets and enjoying the experience.
     
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    Defending against aggression does not require a violent nature.
     
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    Gun control is only for the law-abiding.

    The firearm will be concealed on your person.

    I should remind you that I am not the topic of this thread. That said, your suggestion is nothing but idealistic wishful thinking. Mine is pragmatic engagement of an immediate threat.

    There are no guarantees, but given the choice to be able to shoot back versus just cowering and waiting for a certain death, which would you choose?
     
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    Vigilantes exactly how? And how do you know a shooter will use a so called assault weapon?
     
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    No.
     
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    Golem equates self defense with being a vigilante.
     
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    Then your point is moot.
     
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    Your opinion is duly noted.
     
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    Yeah, he's fixated on this point. Liberal la la land at its epitome.
     
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    We all know psychos would give a warning before shooting.” Hey teach get your gun,I’ll wait, meantime I can kill dozens by the time you get it because AK15 are the best”...lol. You just shot a guard!
     
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    The baseball bat idea is ok and is a close to a gun as I want 'em to get.
     
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    You ignored my earlier post where I stated the weapon is concealed on your person, didn’t you? The one where I told you you’d be able to draw and fire in one second... Inconvenient to your position I know...

    But I’ll play along. Even if you stupidly don’t have your weapon at the ready (which no permitted carrier would do), you will still be one of several adults in the building with access to a weapon. Now it is an indesputable fact that when you are being shot at, it is always better to be able to shoot back. You can only shoot back if you have a weapon and you know how to use it.

    I am sorry but your idealism is only going to result in more dead kids and teachers. Banning weapons will not prevent these atrocities. Refusing to prepare for the next one is frankly irresponsible.
     
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    Well, it’s actually a fact, not an opinion. So, note that.
     
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    We'll just have to agree to disagree on this thread. That concludes any further discussion on my part.
     
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    Translation: “you have exposed the fact that I have no argument so I am taking my ball and going home.”
     
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    And you know about pyscho's just how?
     
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    Or before the teacher starts shooting at anybody who "looks" suspicious. Which is what vigilantes do.

    You think that you give a teacher a gun and they'll suddenly become Rambo? More likely, if they don't just hide with the gun in their hands, they'll be shooting at anything that moves.

    Real life and this comic-book world you live in in your mind are very diffeerent In real life, teachers teach, and guards guard.
     
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    In the way that people not apt for law enforcement with a gun in their hands, would "enforce" the law.
    Because the right refuses to ban them. Or even to keep them away from psychopaths...
     
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    In Texas, the teachers carrying in school are School Marshals and will work with local police. Since they are government sanctioned and trained, how can you call them vigilantes?
     
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    Who would force someone without the aptitude or motivation to use a firearm to do so. That is unless you live in liberal la la land. The depth of liberal fantasies on this topic really know no bounds. BTW self defense is NOT law enforcement. There is a huge difference.
     
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    He's a liberal.
     
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    No responsible adult would shoot at anyone based pm how they look.

    You have a very active imagination.

    You’ve obviously never even held a gun and here you are pretending to know what you are talking about.

    The only comic book is the one you’ve written above.

    What happens when the psychopath with a gun kills the guard?
     
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