As unimaginable as this is........it's getting worse. Part II

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  1. Lee Atwater

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    Please explain your problem with the article since they reported Parnas' story is in dispute.
    You might also want to consider who is disputing it. Giuliani and Fruman.........who clearly have a motive to deny it.
     
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    From article: "....though others involved in the meeting deny key details of Parnas’ story."
     
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    The truth?

    James Andrew Himes lied and said Trump "demanded" and "extorted" Ukraine when Trump did no such thing.

    Stop posting your liars and fake news crap!
     
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    Right. It's in the article. So the reader knows the matter has been disputed. That is called accurate reporting.

    You might also want to consider who is disputing it. Giuliani and Fruman.........who clearly have a motive to deny Parnas' assertion.
     
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    Parnas' claim is fake news because other people deny his version.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not when both sides of the matter are reported.
     
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    Sondland also testified that he never heard anyone mention Biden. Sondland, the EU Ambassador and not the Ukraine Ambassador was only tangentially involved and didn't hear anything about the first call until weeks later. He also testified that the statement they wanted Zelinsky to make was typical of any request of a foreign leader.
     
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    Former Bolton deputy rejects Mulvaney's attempt to join impeachment lawsuit
    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/11/bolton-deputy-mulvaney-impeachment-lawsuit-069309

    A former Trump White House adviser asked a federal judge Monday to block the current White House chief of staff from joining a lawsuit that seeks to clarify whether the House can force testimony in an impeachment investigation from presidential advisers.

    Charles Kupperman, who stepped down last month as Trump’s deputy national security adviser, made the unusual request through his attorney in a 10-page motion that opposes Mick Mulvaney’s bid to sign on as an intervenor in his case.
     
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    Keep in mind everyone- when the Alt Left radicals talk about Trump's maturity: Just look at this user's avatar, and signature.

    That'll be all! lol!
     
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    Here is some spin for ya. Who cares if there was a quid pro quo, what kind of ******* would give billions of dollars of our taxpayer money to a foreign nation without something in return.
    the only complete ass that would ever do that would be obama to a muslim nation. And his admin DID do it to Ukraine. So stop all your whining

    You want to impeach Trump for not really even doing what Obama did. Do you democrats ever listen to yourselves? Ever.
    I swear if one of my kids ever became a democrat I would be filled with shame.
     
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    Tangentially involved?
    Boy,where have you been?
    I hope your feeling better.
     
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    Read his testimony. Evidently you only listen to the dem clown show. He only heard something about holding funds for political reasons from Taylor and Taylor said he read it in the NYT.
     
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    The problem with the testimony from the Pentagon witness is it placed Trump in a box. Only Trump has the authority over the Secretary of Defense meaning there’s no one left to pin holding the funds on.

    The bullseye on his back is now flashing neon. You didn’t think this quite through Don!
     
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    Maybe you missed the cleanup on isle 5.

    It seems hard to believe that anyone could forget telling the Ukrainian government that if they wanted military aid, they should publicly commit to investigations President Donald Trump wanted.
    But that is what Gordon Sondland, the US ambassador to the European Union and a close Trump ally, claims happened.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...gordon-sondland-testimony-changed-impeachment
     
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    Facing Trump's obvious guilt, the White House is tearing itself apart. The messy skirmish could be on full display this week.

    The Post reports, "Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney has urged aides not to comply with the inquiry and blocked any cooperation with congressional Democrats. Top political aides at the Office of Management and Budget, which Mulvaney once led, have fallen in line with his defiant stance, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity to talk freely about the behind the scenes developments.

    "Mulvaney’s office blames White House counsel Pat Cipollone for not doing more to block other government officials from participating in the impeachment inquiry, as a number of State Department officials, diplomats, and an aide to Vice President Pence, have given sworn testimony to Congress.

    "Cipollone, meanwhile, has fumed that Mulvaney has only made matters worse with his Oct. 17 news conference, when he publicly acknowledged a quid pro quo, essentially confirming Democrats’ accusations in front of television cameras and reporters, and Cipollone did not want Mulvaney to hold the news conference."

    The Times writes, "Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, on Monday abruptly withdrew his effort to join a lawsuit over impeachment testimony after a sharp collision with his colleague, John R. Bolton, the former national security adviser.

    "Mulvaney’s retreat came hours after a lawyer for Mr. Bolton argued in court papers that the acting chief of staff should not be allowed to jump into the existing lawsuit as a plaintiff because his interests are significantly different. The legal schism underscored a broader rift between Mulvaney, who facilitated Trump’s effort to pressure Ukraine, and Mr. Bolton, who tried to resist it."

    Trump and his Republican defenders are feuding. Current and former state department officials will testify on camera this week, relaying their firsthand accounts claiming Trump withheld military aid to get Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. Trump's own chief of staff confirmed that fact. On Twitter Trump warned his party that they should not “be led into the fools trap of saying it was not perfect, but is not impeachable.” Trump insists the call was "perfect."

    Trump refuses to face reality. He incriminated himself as is proven in the transcript provided by the White House. The President cannot face that reality.
     
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    Thanks for proving me right. You only listen to fake news. Clearly you did not read Sondland’s testimony.
     
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    Actually for anyone still ignorant enough to believe what they are told by the fake media, the transcripts are devastating for the dem clown show.
     
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    Stephen Miller’s Affinity for White Nationalism Revealed in Leaked Emails
    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...nity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails

    In the run-up to the 2016 election, White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller promoted white nationalist literature, pushed racist immigration stories and obsessed over the loss of Confederate symbols after Dylann Roof’s murderous rampage, according to leaked emails reviewed by Hatewatch.
     
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    More fake news.
     
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    Wash,rinse,repeat...

    They'll be back to "he didn't do it" ...in no time
     

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