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  1. AlpinLuke

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    About history of Masonry, have you had occasion to deal with the Quatuor Coronati?
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I read their periodicals, but I have not yet joined them. I also know some of the members and Past Masters of this Lodge. One I'll petition to join them.
     
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    Dear Freemason,

    Do you buy bricks or make your own? Have any good resources to suggest on how to set a foundation? I'm going to try and make a small brick wall as an initial project with purchased bricks but ideally I want to make my own adobe bricks at some point.
     
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    We are speculative, or philosophical, Masons not operative ones.
     
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    Oh dang, I thought it was both :lol:
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I'm pretty handy, but I prefer yard maintenance and landscaping.
     
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    KSigMason.........… would the Masons that you know be interested in a theory regarding universal salvation that fits in with the Jewish fast of Yom Kippur........ or would most high level Masons feel that the High Jewish Holy Days had no connection with their beliefs and philosophy whatsoever?



    http://www.christianforums.com/t7647325/


    In a nutshell I have came to strongly suspect that Azazel is the fallen angel who will be somewhat like General Abner who brought the ten tribes over to King David or to Rav Shaul/Paul who repented of persecuting Christians and followers of God.

    I suspect that when the fallen angel Azazel returns to the God of Abraham with his whole heart...when Yom Kippur is completely fulfilled....then a major step will have been taken toward the ushering in of a truly new era of worldwide peace where even the eating habits of wild animals like lions will be altered!



     
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    Man...… I am seriously impressed with your blog!!!!!!



    http://www.travelingtemplar.com/
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    One's salvation is left to one's faith and Masonic belief that doesn't follow universal salvation/reconciliation, from my POV. Now, I'm sure there are those interested in discussing it; I like talking theology and religious practices. One's individual belief and philosophy is their own so I cannot say what they feel on the subject.

    Interesting theory. If you start a thread on this subject, tag me in it.

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    Thank you. It's my little labor of love.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for the suggestion for a new topic:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...en-angel-return-g-d-divide-kingdom-satan.html

    Does a major fallen angel return to G-d and divide the kingdom of Satan and...



    cause it to fall?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Somewhere in The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ by Levi Dowling Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus mentioned that the female form is ultimately geometry......................... so in a sense geometry....... is another name for G-d/HaShem/ maker of heaven and earth!
     
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    There are several interpretations concerning the term Azazel.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azazel
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.......... but I personally have enormous difficulty writing off a book that was part of the Christian canon for five centuries.................... and then it got lost........ but not by everybody.


    http://reluctant-messenger.com/1enoch01-60.htm#Chapter13


    The fact that Azazel, King of the Watchers......… showed extreme humility both to the Patriarch Enoch as well as to the being who had sent Enoch to the Watchers...… is huge in my opinion!

    Humility is one of the most valuable characteristics in the universe!
     
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    If my theory is correct that Azazel is in a sense a type of General Abner as well as The Apostle Paul...… then it seems that for eternity he will react with humility even to the greatest promotions?!


    http://www.christianforums.com/t7729785/

    Moved -I feel I am guilty of making an idol out of the Apostle Paul???!!

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    I am certain that I went through a phase of making Mr. Garner Ted Armstrong into something of an idol. Very probably on those occasions when I was a teenager and listened to some of his messages for the third or fourth time in one evening.....I probably would have been much better off to have read some of the Bible or better yet....pray!!!!!!

    I also am certain that I have made something of an idol out of the life and ministry of the Apostle Paul......

    There is nothing in the following writing that I can really disagree with:

     
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    He is back KSigMason........................................... and he has even more functional synaptic pathways than he had nearly two millennia ago.......................

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...-teach-same-things-rabbi-nachman-breslov.html

    Did Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua teach the same things as Rabbi Nachman of Breslov?


    Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. page 117,118, "The Thomas Book, Near Death and a Quest for Another Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus".......





    http://www.thomastwin.com/3 A Autobio.html

    ......…


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    http://www.thomastwin.com/6 A Thomas background.html


     
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    Another "chair degree," within the York Rite system, available for present and past Eminent Commanders is the Knight Crusader of the Cross. The other one is the Order of Knights Preceptor. This order is not used everywhere, but is still growing.

    The body is referred to as "Asylum" and is supported by the following officers:

    Knight Crusader of the East
    Knight Crusader of the West
    Knight Crusader of the South
    Knight Crusader of the North
    Knight Crusader Treasurer-Recorder
    Knight Crusader of the Holy Cross
    Knight Crusader of the Asylum
    Knight Crusader of the Temple​

    This order was established in Florida in 1969. Like the other chair degrees in the York Rite, this order meets and confers this degree at the state Grand Commandery meeting which is how most "chair degrees" operate.

    The initiation is opened with three brief lectures on Masonic Templary and the duties of a Commander. The candidates are then arranged according to the ritual and dubbed "Knight Crusaders of the Cross." It ends with a brief lecture on the ancient Knight Templars and an explanation of the emblem of the order and the modes of recognition of the order. The emblem of the order is the Jerusalem Cross with the motto "Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tua Da Gloriam" or "Not to us, not to us, O Lord, But to thy name give glory."

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    Well, Saturday ended the 147th Annual Communication of the Grand Lodge of Idaho. A Grand Lodge and/or Grand Orient is an independent and sovereign body that governs Masonry in a given country, state, or geographical area (termed a jurisdiction); in the United States it is the geographic boundaries of a State. There is no single overarching governing body that presides over worldwide Freemasonry or the United States; connections between different jurisdictions depend solely on mutual recognition. I am serving this year as the Grand Orator of the Grand Lodge. It is my duty to deliver an address at the Annual Communication of the Grand Lodge on a Masonic topic as well as dedications and other times as designated by the Most Worshipful Grand Master. I look forward to serving in this capacity and serving the Brethren of Idaho.
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    So I'm sitting in my living room, drinking scotch, and deciding the topic of my oration for next year's Grand Lodge. Hmmmm...
     
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    Well.........… one intriguing idea might be elaborating on the idea of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus having an identical twin brother Judas Didymus Thomas (Doubting Thomas) and how the teachings of Thomas played a role in the ideas of the Knights Templar that led to......…


    http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html

     
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    Usually with Grand Lodge, one would discuss something more directly related with Craft Masonry. That kind of topic would be left with the Commandery or more likely with the Societas Rosicruciana in Civitatibus Foederatis.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    KSigMason.........… remember the actor in "Braveheart" who said to Wallace/Gibson.........."it's my Island?"

    Well.........… this is my planet!

    .... and I would like your advice on something that I am attempting to set up........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html

    Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?



    I know that many of you pray or meditate so please

    pray that P. M. Stephen Harper initiate a peace deal between Jordan and Israel?

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    I am a member of a different Canadian political party but……… I have to admit that P. M. Stephen Harper is for good reason regarded as a rather "Davidic" figure by a high percentage of Israelis.

    What he did for Israel back in 2011 at the G-8 was one of the most courageous and wise acts by a political leader that I have seen since I began to watch world events back in the '70's!
     
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    Margot2.........… do you have five or ten friends who like you enough to assist you in film production?

    Would they go on the record and state their opinions on various subjects such as politics or philosophy or world events?

    Although I seem to be in general disagreement with you on an effective opening gambit to attempt to minimize the number of "zombies/ignorant masses" that become casualties over the next twenty years..........you are certainly one of the most astonishingly well informed people that I have ever met through the internet and I can send you footage on virtually any subject that you ask me for footage on........ and since what I send you would cost you zero.....(or perhaps a token fee of one dollar just to make it all legal)....... I should be able to assist you and your friends to make some serious bucks...… and make the world a better place all at the same time.......??!

    http://community.humanityhealing.ne...does-it-equal-a-goat-of-yom-kippur-does-ghost

    Iriquois White Dog, does it equal a goat of Yom Kippur...does Ghost Dance prophecy equal Ezekiel 37???
     
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    I am certainly no expert on such subjects........ but I know that in the year 2001 my wife told me about a dream and/or possible out of body experience that she had had....(she figured in 1995)....... in which a fallen angel appeared to her............. She was asleep..... beside her now ex-husband Cesar.......... A fallen angel appeared in the doorway of their bedroom and said to her......."My name is Azazel Baalzebub....... I am going to take him away from you.......... don't forget what I told you!"

    He laughed and laughed and laughed........ and posed like a pinup model in her doorway........ She said he looked to be less than five feet tall.............. his eyes were red....... his tongue was black.......... he could not stop laughing..............

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/bruc...e-of-the-twins-by-dennis-tate/377414555678900

    My attempt to make sense out of the role of the twins by Dennis Tate
     
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    The Royal Order of the Masonic Knights of the Scarlet Cord

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    The Royal Order of the Masonic Knights of the Scarlet Cord is an appendant body originally stemming from the Order of the Secret Monitor, but in America one needs only be a member of the Allied Masonic Degrees. This is an invitational-order which requires Masons to be members of the 2nd grade/degree of the Order of the Secret Monitor known as "Prince." This order is composed of 6-grades:

    Grade 1: Ostiartii or Doorkeeper
    Grade 2: Lectors or Readers
    Grade 3: Fellow or Healer & Exorcist
    Grade 4: Councillor
    Grade 5: Keeper of the Hidden Secret
    Grade 6: Prince of Jerusalem​

    The first three Grades are conferred in a Consistory, the 4th Grade is conferred in a Council of Elders, the 5th Grade is conferred in a Council of Entrusted, and the 6th Grade is conferred in a in a Council of Princes. To be eligible for the 4th Grade, one must have presided over the Consistory. To advance to the 5th Grade, one must have received the four previous Grades and be an officer (appointed or elected) Grand Council of AMD for the USA. To receive the 6th Grade, one must have received the 5th Grade and have served as an elected Grand officer within the American AMD.

    The 1st Grade tells the story of Rahab and his hiding the Jewish spies from the King of Jericho. The 2nd Grade tells the story of Ruth, her marriage to Boaz, and her son Obed, the grandfather of David. The 3rd Grade surrounds the resolve of the Maccabees to retain their faith in the face of tyranny. The 4th Grade depicts the carrying of the Ark of the Covenant over the River Jordan and its entrance into Jericho. The 5th Grade surrounds Nebuchadnezzar attack on Jerusalem and accounts for the disappearance of the Ark of the Covenant. The 6th Grade is centered on the Maccabees fight for independence around 150 BC.

    Every member wears a scarlet cord, but the fashion in which it is worn may change depending on what grade you hold.

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    2nd Grade Jewel

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    3rd Grade Jewel

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    4th Grade Jewel

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    5th Grade Jewel (silver)
    6th Grade Jewel (gold)

    Within the United States, the Order is still small with only a couple of courts established. The Grand officers of the Grand Council of the AMD of the USA also sit as Grand officers of the Grand Conclave of the Royal Order of Masonic Knights of the Scarlet Cord of the United States of America. They correspond as follows:

    Grand Conclave (Grand Council)

    Grand Summus (Sovereign Grand Master)
    Deputy Grand Summus (Deputy Grand Master)
    Grand Chancellor (Senior Grand Warden)
    Vice Grand Chancellor (Junior Grand Warden)
    Grand Treasurer (Grand Treasurer)
    Grand Registrar (Grand Secretary)
    Grand Director of Ceremonies (Senior Grand Deacon)
    Grand Herald (Junior Grand Deacon)
    Grand Episcopus (Grand Chaplain)
    Grand Sword Bearer (Grand Director of Ceremonies)
    Grand Guarder (Grand Marshal)
    Grand Watchman (Grand Tyler)​

    The constituent body is known as a Conclave and is led by the following officers (with corresponding AMD Council officers):

    Conclave (Council)

    Sovereign Master (President)
    Senior Warden (Chancellor)
    Junior Warden (Vice Chancellor)
    Treasurer (Treasurer)
    Secretary (Secretary)
    Senior Deacon (Director of Ceremonies)
    Junior Deacon (Herald)
    Chaplain (Episcopus)
    Tyler (Watchman)​

    This order was established in 1889 by Bro. Frederick Adolphus Philbrick as a way to promote the Benevolent Fund of the Order of the Secret Monitor. Brother Philbrick also wrote the original rituals of the order which were rewritten and updated in 2009; although the 1st Grade is still the original version as written in 1889. The Order continued until 1929 when it fell into disuse and sat dormant for nearly 80-years.

    On November 17, 2006, the Most Worthy Supreme Grand Ruler Peter Glyn Williams convened a special meeting of Summus Conclave #3 initiated 12 new members. He consecrated a new Conclave and continued to reinvigorate this Order. Within a year's time, there were over 400 members who had received the 1st Grade. It was during this time that the rituals were revised. From 2008 to 2010, this Order had spread to neighboring provinces and across to the United States, and numbered around 2,500 members.

    Several Brothers from the Grand Council of the AMD of the USA went over to England in 2008 and received the first 3-grades Grand Conclave of the Order of Secret Monitor of England and Wales by authority of the Most Worthy Supreme Grand Ruler Peter Glyn Williams. Then at Masonic Week in 2009, Peter Glyn Williams conferred the 1st Grade upon 223 Masons. Then on November 11, 2009, Peter Glyn Williams conferred the Preparation and Installation of a President Ceremony upon several members of the Grand Council of the AMD of the USA.

    On February 13, 2010, the Grand Conclave of the Royal Order of Masonic Knights of the Scarlet Cord of the United States of America was formed by authority of Brother William R. Logan who was the Sovereign Grand Master of the Allied Masonic Degrees of the United States of America, under whom the Order of the Scarlet Cord falls under in the United States. In July of 2010, the Order of the Scarlet Cord in England became an independent body from the Order of the Secret Monitor thus becoming the "Ancient and Masonic Order of the Scarlet Cord." This body traveled back to the United States to confer upon certain American Brothers the final two grades.

    The Order has continued to grow within the United States and the Grand Conclave meets at Masonic Week in Reston, VA. The Grand Conclave of the United States is presided over by Bro. Robert G. Davis, Most Distinguished Grand Summus.

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    If anyone thinks FreeMasons are a Conspiracy theory, watch this. And now that you know that they exist, understand that they don't run the world, and just because some rappers use their symbols doesn't mean Satan wants to eat you.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAOdnmowo0I

    This is kind of a dark part of Civilization that no one talks about, but in the past, it was believed that when you built a structure for a building, it was considered best to use a human body in the foundation. Many old churches around Europe and other places still have markers with the name of people buried in the foundation of different churches and tons of Ghost stories exist to this day because of these bodies in these buildings. Sometimes it is a knight or a monk, but usually it is a church. This idea still exists in regular culture when people talk about building things on Indian Burial grounds.

    That version of Building no longer exists, but the groups that built those building still exist. Such as, the Catholic and Protestant Churches. And there are still building methods that are used that have meaning similar to that of putting a body in the foundation.

    The first example is the Cornerstone, which people sometimes use as Time Capsules. Any large building usually has a Cornerstone somewhere, I have seen them in places like Airports and Libraries.

    According to myth, there was a man named Hiram Abiff. He was the Grand Master in control of building King Solomon's temple, but there were three Wage earners who wanted to earn more money for their work and decided to tell Hiram they would go to other nations and pretend to be Grand Masters themselves if he did not pay them more. So they went to the temple where he prayed and blocked the 3 entrances. One of them met him on the East side and demanded to be named master, but Hiram told him that he could not teach him those things without permission from the King of Tyre and King Solomon. So the worker slit Hirman's throat with a 24 inch measuring gauge, and when he turned away from his attacker, he met another one of the workers at the South door who hit him in the chest with an Architecture's square. He turned again and was hit with a Mallet/Gavel at the West door. He died and they carried in through the West door and later buried him in a 6 ft grave and they fled. 9 other workers had backed out of the plan went to the Grand Master wearing White Aprons and White Gloves as tokens of innocence, When the 3 were found, they suffered horrible deaths. No one knows if this myth is true, because the temple was destroyed in 597 BC, according to Ancient Historians.

    During the Hellenistic Era, the cult that held these "Mysteries" was spread out of Crete and Egypt, Mithraism came from Babylon, and then the Roman government eventually adopted them as their Government religion until Christianity took over. This can be found by searching the "Mithraic Mysteries" to see the Roman Government or "Minoan Genius" to see the ceremonies being done in Crete.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraic_mysteries

    Emperor Constantine Converted to Christianity in 312 AD, and commissioned the people in the Government religion to build the Churches of Rome, which started a tradition of Giant stone Churches and strange Symbols on the Churches that are sometimes not related to Christianity at all. During this time most people could not read, so when they built the churches they built them so that people would learn from the Symbols. For example, in the early church the Choir would stand behind a screen/veil that only allowed the people to get glimpses of them, which would make them feel more like they were angels or souls. This is still used in Catholic Confession boxes.
    Within 300 years, these groups were making Churches all over Europe, and by 1217 they had adopted the French name for "Stone Craftsman" which is "Maszun", and by 1292 they were commonly using Huts to store their tools and eat meals, that they would call the "Lodge". These groups became well established and the government hired them to build everything from military forts, to palaces. Around 1220 the Masonry industry became Unionized, and there were guilds setting the prices of work in different areas. They were not allowed to join together like this to control the prices, so they had to meet in secret.

    Trade Guilds would make new Masons follow a set of rules known as "Charges", which included things like never playing Cards, except for during the 12 days of Christmas. The Church demanded loyalty from these groups, but they held on to the Ancient Mysteries that came before the church.

    Around this time there were 7 Crusades by the Church, and the "Poor Knights of Christ" became "The Knights Templar". Which was a central part of supply of Knights and Mercenaries in Europe. This is the group that worshiped Baphomet, and who Christians claim worship the Devil. This group was forced in to the shadows by the Catholic church after they were tortured and confessed to Heresy, at which point some of them were burned like witches.

    An Important Document to these groups is known as the Regius Poem. It claims that the group started in Ancient Egypt with Euclidean math. But their work can be found on Churches all over Europe before 1400.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_manuscripts#Halliwell_Manuscript.2C_or_Regius_Poem

    Zoroastrianism was the first religion to be Monotheist, because Zoroaster took all the powers from all the Gods and gave them to 1 God. But that started 3000 Years ago, and since then Mithra has made his way in to a higher position. Zoroastrianism was not only the first religion to have 1 main God, but it was also the first religion to have a constant war between Good and Evil. Today, the Zoroastrian Fire Temple is called "The Court of Mithra"and the Priests are given a Mithraic mace with 100 edges.
    Mithra himself is seen as Between Light and Dark, a Path of Liberation. And Mithra's name itself has 3 meanings in Farsi. Mithra is Love, Mithra is the Sun, and Mithra is Friend.
    The Mandrake plant is known as "Mithra's Plant". This is the plant from Harry Potter that had screaming babies for roots. In real life they have roots like kind of look like little people, and in Medeival Europe they used to think that the plants actually had screaming babies on them. They would tie a dog to the plant and cover their ears, then make the Dog pull the plant out and get the curse from hearing the scream. That was not just made up for Harry Potter, people actually used to think that. Mandrake is a Sedative and Poison.
    Mithra can be found in Chinese mythology as "the Friend" and there is a possible link between Mithra and the "Last Buddha" or the "Buddha of the Future" who is the embodiment of love and is known as "Maitreya".

    Mithra can be traced back to Zoroasterianism and Sumer where he is known as Mica or Mehr. Mithra was and is the God of Promises and Contracts, which is why Christmas Holidays have always been associated with gift giving. Mithra, being the God of promises and contracts, was commonly involved in Marriage. If you noticed, the people in the New Testament pretty much died in jail and stuff, but Christianity is very focused on Marriage. During the Time of Paul, Mithraism was popular. It had made its way all the way from Persia, to Greece, to Rome and Mithraism was one of the last Pagan religions to survive in the Roman empire because it was ingrained into the politics, so even Christian leaders would do Mithraic ceremonies, like Marriage. Paul was converting Pagans to Christianity, and if you read what he said according to the Bible, he said "I am all things to all men" and he was doing that so that people would like Jesus.

    Mithra can be found in pretty much EVERY culture. A blatant example (and other examples) can be seen in the Middle East. If you have ever heard of the "Oman" people, when they become men according to their culture, they have to start carrying a knife. But not just any knife, a Khanjar. Below is a Omani man with his knife, then below that is the Emblems of Mithra, which is the Phrgian cap and the J shaped knife.

    http://i62.tinypic.com/57hau.jpg

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    And this is actually not even rare. Mithraism was popular all the way from the Island of Britain to the Middle East. If you remember ISIS was chasing the Yizidi people up that Mountain and America had to bomb the ISIS members at the bottom of the mountain? The Yizidi people are a still practicing Mithraic group that is seen as related historically to the birth of Christianity. If you look up "Yizidi" you will see people wearing the Red and White Mushroom colors. And below is the Kurdish Flag, which has the Star of Mithras on it. Then, if you look at pretty much any Middle Eastern Flag you will find the Colors Red, White and Green. Which is out Christmas Colors.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidis

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    Mithraism was the base nature religion before the Romans, Christians and Muslims started making Empires. Then the Empires absorbed the Mithraism and suppressed it. But it was always there. Today, we see it in the Christmas Holiday and in the nations described above. As well as in Christianity/Catholicism.

    Most people have probably heard of Bull fighting. Mithra was known for killing a bull, and wearing a Red Cape. Bull Fights are pretty much a perfect example of how we are still doing Mithraic ceremonies around the world.
     

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