Ask a Marxist!!!

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    blackharvest216 Banned

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    I'm a Marxist and I noticed people are talking a lot about Marxism these days. So I thought I would start a thread answering any questions people have about Marxism. If you're fervently against Communism, or if you're just simply interested in learning about the basics of Communism, feel free to post here. The reason I'm starting this thread is that few of the recent threads I've participated in have been de-railed into just questions directed too me, about Marxism. So if you have any questions please post them here:smile:
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Do you use any drugs?
     
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    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    Did your embrace of Marxism take place shortly after the time you found out your parents would no longer be financially supporting you?
     
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    blackharvest216 Banned

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    yes marijuana heavily, caffeine tobacco and alcohol as well, but have never touched any other illegal drug i don't use OTC drugs like tytlenol or advil either
     
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    no my parents would never stop supporting me if i needed it, why do you ask?
     
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    One of the many complaints people have raised about marxism is that it requires central planning. The free market requires the planning of everybody involved, with each person deciding what is best for themselves. So one of the arguments against marxism is that it fails because there isn't anybody smart enough to make it work.

    Friedman's pencil is a great example of this. To make a lowly pencil, you need a global system of people all working together to mine the carbon, cut the trees, make the appropriate pencil shaped pieces of wood, the eraser thingie, the paint, the lettering on the pencil...

    The free market does all of this with people voluntarily working for agreed upon wages in order to create a pencil. But then you've got million other things that people need, and the central planners have to figure out.
     
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    no Marxism doesn't require central panning, central panning has been used as a way too bring about communism stalin lenin and mao are famous for their theories about bringing full communism, but central planning would be referred too as state capitalism, as in "state capitalism will bring us too full communism but will be abolished" but it is not full communism, as communism is stateless therefore there can be no central planning.

    milton freidmans classical liberal theories are interesting too say the least, but they were brought about purely as a reaction too stalinism or (marxist-leninism as stalin would call it), not an actual economic theory. If the soviet union never existed neither would milton friedmans (intelligent as they are) liberal theories.
     
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    Belch Well-Known Member

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    So how would a pencil be manufactured under marxism?
     
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    Point of clarity blackharvest, are you a communist of the anarchist type, Stalinist type, or one who feels you need the later to create the former? Are you some other flavor of Marxist altogether?
     
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    more of a left communist than anything
     
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    I have a theory.
     
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    that's a strange question its the first time I've been asked that, i'll give you that, can you elaborate there, belch?
     
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    not a very interesting thread there brewskier im not a teenager, nor am i on the government dole, neither was lenin
     
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    Are you in your early to mid 20s?
     
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    blackharvest216 Banned

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    im only 3 and 1/2 years old

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    seriously why does my age matter?
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    So you live with your parents?
     
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    Ok, what does that mean to you? Looking it up on Wikipedia it seems left communism is defined mostly by being opposed to elections and otherwise having little in common between various wings.

    However they do seem to universally suffer from what I consider the essential lesson learned from communism, the bait-and-switch, as another unifying factor of left communists is that the all supported what was going on in Russia for a while before deciding it was horrid.

    I'm inclined to give the Russians a pass on communism. The thing had never been tried before, maybe a utopia was on the horizon after all?

    However now we've had a fair number of attempts at communism and I'm pretty confident left communists wouldn't be very happy with any of them. Why in the world do you think the bait and switch wouldn't happen as it always does?
     
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    nope again guys i understand as anti-communists its natural for you too attack the source but can you please ask questions about Marxism not about me
     
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    why is it that every country that implemented Marxism/Communism they had to do so under a brutal totalitarian government with a massive death toll of its own people and had to terrorize its own population to stay in power
     
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    Why do you watch Family Guy when it's produced by Fox (News Corporation)?
     
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    yes i don't believe elections can cure anything, what is needed is the social revolution, as elections are defined by the bourgeoisie therefore only the bourgeoisie can be elected, it can be a great tactic too support one person or the next in an election, but left communist have been known too even support far right wing candidates in order to convince people too join the social revolution through the theories of accelerationism

    nothing that happened under the soviets wasn't going on daily under the imperialist czar

    communists don't believe in utopian socialism
    no we wouldn't
    what do you mean?
     
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    in order to get rid of the bourgeoisie we had too, granted i dont agree with everybody that called themselves communist, Kampuchea in southeast asia and north korea were the worst, the red terror comes in at a close third, they certainly took things too their worst possible conclusion, but the rich must be imprisoned the churches mosques and temples etc etc etc must be burned.
     
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    i know right!!!! isn't that interesting that FOX produces so much of the best left wing atheist tv programming in the world, like the Simpsons, married with children, and family guy, and simultaneously produces the christian white supremacist fox news?
     
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    OMG.....is this a freak show at the carnival?

    "Bourgeoisie this and that", "the rich must be imprisoned and churches must be burned", yada, yada.

    Sad and pitiful......not to mention too much time on your hands posting this garbage on forums. :wall:

     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so the ends justifies the means?
    if it takes the murder and imprisonment of millions to implement Marxism it is justified for the greater good?
     

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