Atheists' political activity is growing

Atheists' political activity is growing

Despite some setbacks, like allowing creationism in the classroom in the Monkey State, Atheism is picking up stem and growing more and more by the day. People are waking up that god is a lie, jesus is a myth, the church is a poorly ran business and religion is dangerous.

For humanity, lets let common sense and reasoning rule for a change. You may like it.

 

Granny says, "Quick, get the fumigator - dey's commin' outta the woodwork!...

Pew Study: More Atheists Now than Mormons
October 9, 2012 - - There are now more atheists than Mormons in the United States, according to the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion and Public Life.

 

How can there be? Atheists assure us all repeatedly that they do not join any organizations, and that they are just ONE SENTENCE ... you mean all this time that I have been pointing out these things, and being attacked by one dick headed atheiost after another, I was actually right?

So, perhaps now we can back up a couple of years and actually talk about whether ... apparently millions of atheists cooridinating to block non-existant theology is a good thing? As we are now, with the ever changing standards of atheism, in agreement with my assesment of atheism.

I suppose I should also ask whether this poll iincludes agnostics, the non-religious, Buddhists, and even successful theists like Einstein? Or whether it is only officially declared atheists like the prison thing?

 

It's about time for the US to catch up in this matter to the rest of the industrialized countries. I think most major European countries categorize about 40% of their population as atheist - or not belonging to any religion.

 

Misunderstand, misinterpret, misrepresent..... Whoops! You did it again.

 

What did I misunderstand?

Or is this just another case of rabid athtards screaming that they are not a religion ... and then turning around and suing to demand that they be given religious protections and Chaplains?

Are atheists not just those who actively declare themselevs atheists as per the prison study you atheists like to trumpet? Or are you now all non-religious people ... which makes atheists a greater representation in prison then their percentage? Well, here is an atheist claiming just that .... but the opposite see ...

And how many atheists have decried any attempt to 'lump them in with other atheists,' and yet, here we have one the loudest screaming atheists about such tactics doing just that to highlight the political prowess of atheism? After pointedly assuring me, and everyone else of the oppoiste - even running to the mod team and demanding that people bebanned for trolling for not accepting their standards ... all of which just changed.

Yep, that is atheism. The confusion has nothing to do with deliberate dishionest and misdirection.

 

I think the strangest thing I saw here was there was an atheist party, I thought it was a joke at first or just a term but no it's am actual real thing and they describe themselves as a "progressive party"

All I have to say is well done in setting back your own and possibly other atheists interests back a bit, sure you're atheists and you're progressive I get that but here's what you do you start a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing progressive movement seriously if people want to (like me) get people to stop associating atheism with a political belief here's what you don't do, start an atheist political party because radical religious people can use this and say "see look atheists have a political agenda they are all liberals" so congratulations you work against that.

I'm not against atheists being part of a movement hell call it a secular movement but when you start thinking about calling it an atheist movement when it has nothing to do with atheism (as secularism isn't inherently atheist as the very founders were mostly if not all theists) If you really want to do something back a movement and stop thinking being an atheist changes you that much and your beliefs are any more special or smart because of it.

 

Neutral, nobody here has said that atheists don't have organizations and groups, they have said, just because they have organizations and groups does not mean that atheism is a RELIGION.

 

So you're allowed to push your religion into our government, but are against our religion having any political influence?

 

Standing up to stop theists from taking over your state's administration and the schools your kids are going doesn't make atheism a religion .

 

FINALLY, WE WILL RULE OVER THEISTS AT THE SIDE OF THE DARK ONE. JOIN US OR FACE THE GALLOWS. OH, AND WE WANT YOUR BABIES FOR SANDWICHES.



Yet again, Neutral (what an ironic name) uses this as an excuse to claim that all atheist are a borg-like religious species. omg, more atheists are trying to keep our constitutional separation of church and state in tact, therefore, they're all of one mind in this religion! derp.

 

I didn't say that, but I believe atheism is just another religion.

I am not one to cram my beliefs down others throats and my disdain for such acts includes the atheistic religion.

 

And yet another atheist plays the whiney victim card because he was simply and utterly wrong. I guess the fact that Jesus lists circumstances under which remarriage is OK ... wait it is there. But the fact that it is there, that you were attempting use someone else's faith as a weapon to inflict injury is really about the 'honorable' past time defending the country from theocracy ... by dishonestly smearing people on an internet forum?

Nice atheists. Nice.

 

No, but the fact that they are suing to demand to protected as a religion and demandinhg Chaplains most certainly does make them a religion. Not too mention, I am not sure how pissing on religion on an internet forum is protectiong their kids from theocracy that is not happening in schools? Seems like its just a weak excuse to (*)(*)(*)(*) on religion.

 

Why is this political?

Why do you care what other people think?

If God is a stupid idea people will move past it, right?

 

Why you want to go there again ? atheism although it is a belief it does not constitute a religion.

reading from wikipedia :

since we do not have any respect or bond or obligation to the gods we are not a religion.

From what i have read and from the videos i have seen atheists in the Americas ask for the separation of the church and the state and to teach science in schools instead of creationist nonsense , this is as political as it gets . For some reason people tent to mix abortions and gay rights with atheism which is wrong , there are perfectly legit atheist conservatives who oppose both for personal and not religious reasons.

 

The Courts have voted that atheism is a religion.

See:

Kaufman v. McCaughtry (2005): A religion need not be based on a belief in the existence of a supreme being (or beings, for polytheistic faiths).

Reed v. Great Lakes Cos (2003): "If we think of religion as taking a position on divinity, then atheism is indeed a form of religion."

Torcaso v. Watkins (1961): "We repeat and again reaffirm that neither a State nor the Federal Government can constitutionally force a person "to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion." Neither can constitutionally pass laws or impose requirements which aid all religions as against non-believers, and neither can aid those religions based on a belief in the existence of God as against those religions founded on different beliefs." and "...Among the religions in this country which do not teach what would generally be considered a belief in the existence of God are Buddhism, Taoism, Ethical Culture, Secular Humanism, and others..."​

 

Your courts mean nothing to me

heh and secular humanism is a religion? thank you Columbus !

 

Apparently Atheists believe in discrimination.

 

Atheism does not relate humanity to spirituality, divinity, nor to a moral compass. There is no possibility for it to be a religion. Atheism, however, can be a scientific hypothesis, as well as an unjustified belief in the form of a reasonable position. In the broader sense, when applying apathy, Atheism is strictly a reasonable position. Personally, I gravitate towards apathetic Atheism.

 

actually everything is going by the book.............

 

It isn't discrimination, if you are an adult with an imaginary friend you are not mentally capable of running the administration of a state.

 

Your argument is formed from ignorance. I'm a human being does that mean because there are other humans who share some of my ideals I'm now a part of an organization? If I agree with millions of people that blacks needed to be treated as equals and fought for their rights am I now a part of an organization even if I don't directly interact with them? If I agree that Meth is dangerous and teach my kids along with millions of other parents that its bad and should never be done am I part of an organization? If I agree that the environment needs to be protected and vote with millions of others in regards to my stance am I a part of an organization?

Even if you want to answer yes to these questions there is a FUNDAMENTAL difference from these "organizations" and relgion. I can share these ideals with many people and still disagree with them on nearly everything else. There is no living ideology here it's simply a reaction to a negative effect. An infection is an infection and antibiotics are antibiotics their interaction with each other does not make them the same or comparable

If a group of people came together and overthrew Stalin because they all agreed his ideology was harmful would you compare them to him? Why? Why not?

Also a side note, here is a post from Wolverine a while back that didn't seem to get a lot of interaction from theists on this board in regards to Einstein.

 

Well, go ahead and prove there is no God then. Because if you cannot prove it, running around accusing people of having an imaginary friend is a pretty dambed asshollish thing to do.

But I supose being a raging **** makes up for the lack of evidence?

 

Your arguement is entirely semantics. When your 'organization' does the exact same thing as a church under the exact same tax emept status as a church, sues people for religious reasons, demands chaplains, etc. ... and now has atheists screaming that they are an ever growing force with its own manifestdestiny ....

You call it whatever you want, but we - and the courts by the way - will call it a religion.

BTW - Einstein himself claimed that there was a super natural force that created the universe. His trouble was believeing that this creative force could care about us as individuals. What we get above, is, as is always the case with atheist arguementation, is selected verses that ignore greater context and comments that further clarify Einsteins position. Einsteins life is not defined by one paragraph that he wrote, but is rather the assimiliation of thousands of thoughts, ideas, and articles.

This is the same problem with atheist 'logic' that drives such things as the Jesus Myth, or the blaming of religion for every bad thing that ever happened. Its selective, misdirecting, dishonest, and usually cruel.

But please, explain to us how making Einstein an atheist, when his own comments conflict that assessment, equates to anything other than a display of ignorance by those who know better?