Atheists To Hold Massive Rally On National Mall Next Month

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  1. TheHat

    TheHat Well-Known Member

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    Lol.

    So what are they "rallying" for here?

    I don't understand what their purpose is.
     
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    Do you acknowledge that the OP misstated the facts?

    More than 94 million? Where's your proof?

    The Black Book of Communism

    And remember the number of atheists has never been large so on a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in history.
     
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    I think the person who wrote that question was a King.
     
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    Oh? The bible was only written by a king?
     
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    Ah... I get it. You're the equivalent of Silly on religious matters and abortion. I'll have to remember that.
     
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    You are speaking of politicised religion not real religion.
     
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    I could make the same argument with Communists.

    Stalin and Mao didn't kill people specifically because they were atheists. They killed people because they were authoritarians.
     
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    Thats an argument? Its an attempt to politicise your religion. That I will oppose. Just like I oppose the TV types who politicise their religion.
     
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    You don't seem to be able to prove your statement. If you were honest you'd admit your error.

    Many atheists clearly killed in the name of atheism.

    USSR anti-religious campaign
     
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    I am an atheist. I have no religion. Nice try thou. :roll:
     
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    People. all people, act according to their conscience, whether they are religious or not. Its basic human nature.
     
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    Got nothing eh. Who knew.
     
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    Problem is, it is no more conclusive than God. If it's an ongoing work in progress, could it not also be said that we are cavemen compared to the what would be required for us to disprove God? We've only just [in the overall passage of time on this planet] figured out how to get to the moon. We may never have the scientific nor intellectual capacity to ever confirm any existence or non-existence of a deity.

    Suggestive evidence is just that. Suggestive, unproven evidence.
     
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    I've yet to encounter an atheists that doesn't make that claim.
    A definite beginning to the universe requires a definite force to make it so. Therefor, a starting place cannot be postulated (because it concedes a Creator). Why not think about the consequences of what you argue, sometime?

    You mean they've hypothesized this? That's a long way from "proof". And even if (IF) the universe is made out of "nothing" something (some force) is still required to explain our universe.
     
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    I did not say your flying sky fairy was not responsible. That would be ridiculous and would assume that I took mythology for anything more than poorly written literature.


    No thank you.

    Go find someone who is foolish enough to think your myths are on par with science.
     
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    You expose the weakness of your position when all you can do is make things up.
     
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    Thou? Freudian slip?
     
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    Because it is. Much has been verified by archeology in terms of historical references. The spiritual aspects are a matter of faith, but that is reinforced by biblical consistency, fulfilled prophecy and the like. That Jesus lived and was crucified is a historical fact, that he was reserected is confirmed by eye witness testimony.
     
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    There are plenty of things that aren't healthy or "moral" that are still legal.

    Prohibition was a largely religiously motivated movement. It didn't work very well.

    Laws have to have a logical basis in order to work properly. When you let the government start telling people what they can and can't do in their personal lives with only religion as the basis for these restrictions, then a lot of problems arise.

    We see a lot of the extremes in the Islamic World. Islamism is a terrible design for government precisely because it unites religion and government. In order to preserve civil liberties, you have to keep the two separate. This is equally as true with Christianity as it is with Islam.
     
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    No. By men of God.
     
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    Really?

    Name one thing in the New testament that has been verified through archeology. One thing. The tomb of your god's kid. His place of birth. Anything.
     
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    We already possess the knowledge to say there is no deity. The difficulty comes from the religious side who do not want to accept the science or simply do not possess the cognitive ability to understand it.

    Its easy to stay with their fanciful imaginary friend than face reality.
     
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    You don't see a difference between an empirical process and faith?
     
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    Any of jesus christs supposed teaching werent written in the NT till some 60 years after this death.

    Nothing but hearsay at that point..."God of men" :fart:
     
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    Being in the closet is being in the closet, like a conservative in Hollywood.

    Why do you assert it will be antagonistic?

    Which is why government should stay out of your personal belief and yours should stay out of government.

    I have no problem with religious people promoting their religious view in the public square as long as it is on their dime and their time and if they do use a public park that is used for such public displays they gain permits just like any other group.

    Why do you oppose freedom of assembly?
     
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