Attack on Alt-Right Leader Has Internet Asking: Is It O.K. to Punch a Nazi?

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  1. micfranklin

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    The whole reasons the Nazis even became as relevant as they were was because of violence, racially-based violence which led to genocide. You can say it's a thought crime or simple political view all you want but "ethnic cleansing" is not something to joke about, just ask history. They're not good people or respect worthy.

    Why do you think all these Nazi and white supremacy groups still exist?
     
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    Once was enough to establish what his mindset is.
     
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    Why? Because one is right-wing and one is left-wing? The Constitution protects all, it's not up to you to decide who is protected by it.
     
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    That says more about you than it does about him. You support violence against people you disagree with, and you're not even consistent with it. You wouldn't support a right-winger punching a communist, even if they used the same exact logic you are using.

    Whether or not he advocates violence is relevant, especially when people are trying to portray him as evil.

    You want to pigeonhole anyone who has views in line with his as "skinheads", when many are not. They advocate for exactly what the upcoming DNC chairman advocated for his own race. It's OK for blacks to do this, but not whites?
     
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    No one is joking about it.

    Racially based genocide is no worse or better than any other genocide. Communists had views which led to even greater genocide before during and after the third Reich.

    They still exist for the same reason communism still exists because there will always be stupid people.

    But these are still political views and people have the right to them and to express them.
     
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    I can say the same thing for the Bernie Sanders' of the world. They are a threat to my wellbeing. You wouldn't say I had a justifiable reason to assault them, though.
     
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    I agree with you yardmeat. Sometimes people definitely deserve a good ass whoopin but it often says more about you than it does about them if you actually resort to physical violence. The only time anyone should use violence toward another person is in self defense or defense of others from harm.

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    I understand the sentiment and the desire but what protects your well being more in the long run...punching them or getting politically involved and making sure that their putrid, vile, degenerate, collectivist, race baiting, identity politics, left wing agenda never sees the light of day?
     
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    I'm not saying I would want to punch them, I'm just exposing his double standard.

    Left-wing politics could be defeated without a constant flow of non-white immigrants into the country who depend on the Government for assistance. That's why people like Spencer advocate for a white society. Whites, overall, seem to be the only ones who have a concept for the kind of liberty that the Founders advocated for, which isn't too surprising, since those concepts were the products of Western civilization and societies.
     
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    That's because the "threat" Bernie Sanders poses to you exists in your imagination.

    That I don't tolerate or respect Nazis at all? Good, I'm glad that clears things up, because I put them in the same pile of god-awful humans as ISIS, pedophiles, rapists and gangbangers.

    People wouldn't be calling him evil if he never advocated that. But since he does, it's obvious where that comes from. If he never said anything about ethnic cleansing, building a white nation, quoting Nazis a lot, blamed Jews whenever he felt like it or any other BS no one would say anything.

    A Nazi by any other name is still a Nazi. You're the one who used skinheads in your example.
     
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    Express your political views all you want, but if you're a Nazi then that's all I need to know about you and if you get curbstomped badly then there's no sympathy from me here.
     
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    Teach history.

    Some kids need to visit the Holocaust Museum to see what a real Nazi looks like.
     
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    Hit a conservative? No. Hit a right wing conservative? No. Hit an anti choicer yelling at my wife as she goes into get an abortion? Maybe. Hit an actual white supremacist Nazi? Hell yes, all day and night. My grandfather almost died fighting these scum in Europe, I will never let them be accepted here in America.
     
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    I guess your bullsht history lesson here explains your need to downplay Spencer and his ilk so much.
     
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    There hasn't been a Nazi threat for 60 years. What the hell are you talking about?

    You're obviously ok with curbstomping people for how they feel and not their actions. That's interesting.
     
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    And that's based on nothing more than your subjective opinion, which is the flaw in your logic. You justify violence on others based on your own opinion that they are "repugnant and threatening", when there are many people in the country who would feel the same way about you, your ideology, and what you support.

    You tolerate communists, though. You don't put them in that pile, despite the fact that they are responsible for many times more death than the Nazis.

    When has he advocated violence?

    No, actually you did:

     
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    Are you expecting me to show some form of sympathy towards Nazis, or rather neo-Nazis, or any form of white supremacy in general?
     
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    As if women are being shouted at outside abortion clinics. I'm pretty sure people stopped doing that in the 80s. I give money pro-life orgs and haven't heard of such a thing in decades.
    Your grandfather almost died fighting people who killed other people, not fighting people over their feelings.
     
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    I have ancestors who were killed and raped by Muslims. It is OK if I beat them up when I see them?

    I'll give you your animosities if you'll give me mine.
     
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    You're no better than they are, then. Let me guess, you would not be supportive of people attacking communists in this way? Muslims?
     
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    As citizen it should concern you that people feel it's ok to go around curb stomping those whom they disagree with over feelings.
     
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    No, see, that would be "racist" and "Islamophobic". We can't demonize Muslims for the actions of a small minority.

    Funny how the left's positions change when it comes to people and ideologies they don't approve it.
     
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    The thread is not about sympathy but justification
     
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    Please don't tell me what should and shouldn't concern me, that goes beyond more than feelings, that is a dangerous ideology that left half of Europe in ruins and 11 million dead all because they didn't look the same.
     
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    Like your left-wing BLM involvement explains your need to support violence against them. I'll let people decide which is morally worse.

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    Communism is far more dangerous and resulted in much more than 11 million people dead, yet communists proudly identify themselves within the Democratic party, and you support it.
     
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    Those fascist Muslims that protest in London wanting Sharia? Yes, I think we can use mild violence against them in the streets. We don't have a problem authoritarian Communism anymore, so no. We were never threatened with full fledged state communism ever, fortunately.

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    If you come across an IS sympathizer, go for it.
     

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