Attack on Alt-Right Leader Has Internet Asking: Is It O.K. to Punch a Nazi?

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  1. micfranklin

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    Like you? The same one lecturing me above a subjective opinion and yet you posted this dumb ass statement:

    You seem to put whites on a pedestal here in this example, ignoring how the Founder's concept of liberty only applied to white males at the time, everyone else be damned.

    No I don't, they're not the subject of the matter.

    He hasn't, but violent or non-violent ethnic cleansing is just that and not something that needs to have a second thought.
     
  2. Nordic Democrat

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    You don't want to hear about it then, believe me, it happens. My girlfriend was the victim of anti abortion harassment, it was so effing disgusting. My grandfather wouldn't have had to fight in that war IF Germans mobbed those scum as they were first coming to power.
     
  3. micfranklin

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    In case it hasn't been clear from the start, I don't give a single fck about Spencer's feelings. Whatever happened to him, oh well.
     
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    Yes, I think your ideology is worse than Spencer's. The difference is I'm not advocating violence against you.

    I think the wisdom in their racist decisions will be better exposed as the country continues putting square pegs into round holes, trying to integrate people who have nothing in common, do not share the same values, don't like each other, etc. Even Keith "X" Ellison understands that when he advocated for a blacks only country in the US. He's about to be DNC chairman, by the way. Doesn't that make you proud of your party?

    We're talking about a group at the far end of the political spectrum. Why would the counterbalance not be a legitimate topic to explore and compare?

    You said people wouldn't be calling him evil if he never advocated violence.
     
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    Wow how about a little perspective here folks.

    There are no more genuine nazis around today. What we have today is neonazis and while scum, they are certainly nowhere near the threat that radical islam to peace throughout the world. So those of you going on and on about how bad nazis are ought to wake up and smell the halaal meat.......Islam's gonna get you long before neonazism will. that's what's called a FACT.
     
  6. Pycckia

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    How about any Islamicist? England is rife with Islamic supremacists.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...26A1620824ED0D9843E826A1620824ED0D9&FORM=VIRE

    Islam is a much greater threat to our way of life than the alt-right. They can and do field armies. All the alt-right does is tweet.
     
  7. micfranklin

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    My ideology doesn't involve destroying inferior races, making a whites-only state, trying to take over the world or protecting people who subscribe to the ideology that did. Big difference.

    It's only wisdom in their decisions if you think liberties for whites only needs to be the way of the world.

    I would if I were a Democrat or if I cared that much.

    Because it sounds like a deflection.

    Try remembering the whole quote, I also said he wouldn't be called evil if he never advocated ethnic cleansing, a white-only state or using Nazis for quotes and as references.
     
  8. Nordic Democrat

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    Yes, people like that need to go back to where they came from, or be mobbed because you cannot advocate fascism like this. I refuse to only say we should go after fascist Islam, if we don't go after Fascist Christianity (alt, nazi right) and white supremacy, we're just choosing sides. Fight ALL fascists everywhere.
     
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    OK, you fight the fascist right and I'll fight the fascist left.

    Let's make a date, Union Square NYC with axe handles.
     
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    Fascist left is an oxy-moron. There is the fascist right, and communist left. Islamists are fascist right, so are Nazi's. If you want to kill Communists go to China haha, that's where the remaining are located.
     
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    Something for which a "safe space" offers no protection.
     
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    Even if 100% of Britain's Muslim community were "Islamic supremacists" it wouldn't be a threat. Muslims are a minority of barely 3-4% of the total population there; and that is the average for most Western countries. And the reality is that only a small minority within the Muslim community subscribe to radicalism or supremacism.

    But Whites are a numerical majority in Western countries, and the number of far-Right White supremacists far exceeds the number among their Muslim supremacist counterparts.

    In my view, the best solution to the growing problem of White supremacism in societies where White people are a strong numerical majority is to deconstruct the notion of White "nationhood". An aggressive educational reform needs to be implemented where "White" no longer exists; those whom we now regard as "White" should be classified into numerous other, smaller divisions; to reduce the threat of the rise of far-right White fascist governments reminiscent of the 1930s. This will take a bit of social engineering but it can be done. For example, I propose that those whom we now regard as "White" should be divided into new categories like "Mediterranean" (Italian, Spanish, Greek), "Nordic", "Slavic", "Celtic", "Finnic", "Uralic", etc. Divide them into as many categories as socially possible and don't look back. Once the "white" majority is broken down there will be more social harmony among people and a lot less racism. The race problem will have been practically solved.
     
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    And the mindset of the invaders, are what exactly? Unicorns? You see in Britain how unhinged the BNP has become? That's the Democratic Party of today in the US. You'd allow that to continue?
     
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    Free speech includes speech that one may find objectionable. Threats or acts of violence are illegal.
     
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    [video=youtube;jLsufo0sjhw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLsufo0sjhw[/video]

    The perpetrator was one of the thugs who were responsible for smashing store front windows in the shopping district. There were some violent anarchists in the area but anti-fascists were not staging a demonstration at the time, who would not have behaved like criminals in the video. Punching a young man like Richard Spencer would not change anything and he is a small fish compared to Don Black.
     
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    Just what a typical fascist would say, denying people the right to fight fascism in their own way. I don't want to fight communists. I want to fight you so as to make the world a better place.

    Come on. Don't you think it would make the world a better place to splatter my brains on the sidewalk, too?

    Don't you have the courage of your convictions?
     
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    More social harmony? Are you joking?

    You'll just be pitting the Slavs against the Celtics against everyone else. You are proposing the status quo ante of World War I.

    And they'll all still hate the Blacks and the Mexicans anyway.

    No, the way to unite people is to give them a common enemy.

    The Democrats have chosen white people to be the enemy. The White Nationalism you see on the rise is the predictable response.
     
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    Can't fight fascism if you fail to recognize what it is :roflol:

    Are you a white supremacist nazi?
     
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    Paul Harvey used to tell..."the rest of the story" and it goes something like this. After trump said that at one rally as protestors were interrupting him, what did operatives within the DNC, or contracted by the DNC do? They turned into agent provacateurs, who would intentionally bait trump supporters to get a physical response, so they could claim they were there outside a trump rally, minding their own business, when viciously attacked by a trump supporter. Reminds one of the Brown Shirts, and the democrats might hate Nazis, but they sure do love how the Nazis played the game.

    Then, these scumbags Hillary people, with the help of a las vegas, Hillary supporting journalist created a lie about how sanders supporters got violent and hurled chairs at one the caucus meetings in Nevada. It consumed MSM for a week, for after all a journalist reported it....yet it never happened. Repeat, it never happened. Another Brown Shirt tactic from the dems.

    So, for any dem to talk down on trump is a dem that needs to clean up their own yards before complaining about the next guy having a poorly maintained yard. If they did that of course they would be rendered silent, but you can never shut up a hypocrite. It goes with being a hypocrite.
     
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    Right, 70 years ago. They're all dead now. Now there's only loud mouths with tattoos and weird music. You let me know when one of them takes over Germany and creates a dictatorship.
     
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    Tattoos, weird music and a ton of white supremacist groups, gangs and organizations all across the country.
     
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    That do nothing to hurt anyone. It's their feelings you HATE. They're not Nazis. They're dumbass misguided, likely fatherless, children.
     
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    Who've joined a white supremacist gang. Gangs are generally considered bad FYI, not to mention some of those other groups are listed on the FBI's database and archive files.

    Stormfront exists for a reason.
     
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    It exists because free speech exists. There used to be a liberal creed, "I may not agree with what you say, but I agree with your right to say it."

    Those morons can say whatever they want. They have no power. They're not killing Jews by the millions. They're not stringing up blacks from moss covered oak trees. They're doing X and slamming into each other in mosh pits. So what?
     
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    People raised in a (vague, I suppose) democracy which has already seen the corrosive destruction wrought by fascism and naziism squaring away like-minded folks in their own neighbourhoods, huh.

    Fascists. Too dumb, mostly, to even know what they are. Which is no defence come reckoning day.
     

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