Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

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  1. AFM

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    Based on a working knowledge of the science and extensive reading on the subject.
     
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    I asked if you really believe that actual scientists who have studied this subject their entire lives didn't know that climate has a natural variation.
     
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    No idea, I'm not a scientist. I'm happy to look at evidence though, but it will probably require longer than 5 minutes for the research to done into this event. It also doesn't help that green policies have prevented certain controlled burning.
     
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    Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

    Before her it was Al Gore. Of course his deadline is long passed.
     
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    Of course it isn’t. Why would you think so ???
     
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    No you don't. You mean you have a minor engineering degree, and you have read a few political stories.
     
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    Then look at the research. There is mountains of it. It certainly isn't 200 arsonists.
     
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    No, she doesn't.
     
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    The exact same thing happened in California. We had a drought which killed trees which could not be harvested due to green policies. The Green New Deal kills.
     
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    You didn’t read the links did you?

    Ah! Well! Didn’t expect you to in any event because that would not fit with world view bias
     
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    What do the models say ???
     
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    Lashing out is unseemly.
     
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    I'm sure that that is true. Yet, that is one one the tenets that is promoted.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
    What you have is the tiniest bit of knowledge. That gives you the very seductive notion that you know more than real experts. That then lets you comfort yourself that you are ok believing whatever you wanted to in the first place.
     
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    Why do you expect others to run around finding these answers when we know it will be dismissed out of hand? I posted a mountain of research earlier in the thread and not one person has reviewed it
     
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    No, it isn't. That is the interpretation of people who don't know what they are talking about .
     
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    Why would you take anything she says seriously?
    She is guilty of misunderstanding claims that global warming could be irreversible if action is not taken within 12 years.
    Claims which are credible and backed by many top climate scientists.
    Do you know what a tipping point is?
     
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    I am so tempted to laugh at this

    I will bet a donation to PF that you have not included the IPCC reports in your reading
     
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    Oh! I guess that I misunderstood.

    I think that some number, probably the vast majority, of them understand that the climate has varied throughout the planet's history.
     
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    Was any of them Al Gore? Dems gotta be desperate to be right for a change.
     
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    Ok, so let me clear that up. There is no possible way that any of them aren't aware of that fact. In fact there is no possible way that they don't. But, somehow that doesn't sway them... right?

    Edit: Let me clear up the redundancy. I mean there is no possible way that a person could even get a masters in any field remotely related to climate science without knowing that, let alone be a published scientist.
     
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    I’ll be interested in hearing about your findings.
     
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    I don't think global warming is net beneficial. But I do believe in planning ahead. For my new farm plan is to work.... been planning and working on it for several years now... Is to warm my outside pond to a climate zone warmer.
     
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    So it’s not the fault of humans, but if it is we can’t do anything about it anyway.
     
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    Exactly! Why would anyone take her kind of nonsense seriously? Yet, here we are. We're talking religion. We're talking about extracting alms in supplication to the gods of Global Warming.

    They're telling us to believe that a naturally occurring gas, carbon dioxide, is causing the Earth to overheat. Really? 0.0391% of the atmosphere controls the climate? How can anyone believe that?

    I mean, Ivory soap is purer than that.
     
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