What gets my gullet is most I speak to would be happy to have it foundation day except for the date . This shows me that the public holiday is the biggest issue, not the colonisation or invasion but having another public holiday.
To my thinking federation day should be Australia Day. Take citizenship, it is because of federation that we are citizens of Australia not an English colony. It was on that day that Australia became a nation, fully fledged with our own constitution. January 26th can become officially Survival Day as respect for what started that day. As a small token to conciliation and a reminder like ANZAC day, of the horrors of hate, the resilliance of strong determined people.
That is intense. Kinda impossible to sleep, huh? How to stay upright in 48 degrees? Australia has turned into a fireball.
Hey TV, 'Gestural' a good way of putting it. Yes, issues big and small important, all bound up together, linked together. The refusal to address one issue reflects on every other issue they refuse to address. It's like a blanket 'no' on every issue from this government. But the rallies get bigger each year. Cue Sam Cooke's song "A Change is Gonna Come." (Labor don't stuff it up)
Absolutely. A little thought and a little kindness is worth more than a great deal of money! Random acts of kindness type stuff!
So, In your eyes, celebration of being Australian should be changed so you can feel reconciliation is a serious sentiment??? In other words the only way YOU can feel reconciliation is that everybody acquiesces to your demands but you give nothing in return??? I guess work on inclusion in your eyes is that everybody else has to give and you just sit back and receive. Yeah, I can see the tolerance you demand in yourself… talk about putting words in peoples mouths, Well play your strawman games I still ask Why do you hate being Australian??? It is not what you said, it is what you show. Yeah, we know, again this entire topic comes from the bigotry and racism people claim to oppose. Rather than celebrate being who you are, people want to try commemorate the past. There is a serious problem with demanding inclusions reconciliation or anything else when it is based entirely on racist intent. Come back when you stop supporting racism and bigotry and talk about how things of this nature affect you, while you complain about racism as a racist you sound like the KKK labelling Trump a racist because you don’t like the colour of his hair…
You know, I haven't attacked you. And here you are going off the deep end saying I support racism and bigotry and that I sound like the KKK. You really go off the deep end, garry. There's just no talking to you.
What a pissing contest this forum has become... Everyone should go out and argue with the tree in the backyard... .youll get better results........or maybe their dog.... ....maybe even take the dog for a walk... I couldnt give a stuff for anyones opinion on this forum...nor does anyone give a stuff about mine....you are all just a bunch of whingers...... At the end of the day, nothing will have changed..everyone will still keep their opinion, and every fuking politician in this country still doesnt deserve the smell of my arse.... Hasta la vista suckers....you wont hear from me again....Im living my life...
One of the most unintentionally funny posts I have ever read. The lack of self awareness is spectacular. Anyone care to bet this isn't Billy's last post?
Hi billy the kid. Sounds like you had a bad experience of the forum. There are lots of people that come here for a good discussion. And there are some very bright sparks here that are interesting to read even if a person doesn't feel like posting themselves. I've been influenced (and affected) by other people here. Maybe not a ginormous amount but quite a bit of tweaking here and there. We're not all whingers. But there's nothing wrong with complaining, I guess. Cos god knows the world is a mess. See you around the board if you decide to stay. Cheers, Gwen
You did support a racist taunt, thus yes you supported racism and bigotry. Talk about putting words in people’s mouths, I said this thread is like the KKK complaining about trump. I didn't say "you" sound like the kkk. I labelled it as it was, you don't like it don't support it. If you cannot put racism aside, like your buddy then yes there is no talking to me. I will continue to call out racism as it is sprayed about. It clearly shows the origins of the comments. Since it is clear you cannot refute my comment or even discuss it, don’t blame me for your poor lack of form… Oh I do apolagise, I did say you sound like the KKK... My bad, I did mean that to read as above. M
I have been here before and you all know my feelings on this, so I will try not to rant on. Jonathon Thuston was recently asked about changing the date. Forget about him being a great role model for Aborigines, he is a great role model for all. He stated that yes it seems it upsets a lot of people, but there are more important issues at hand, and went on to outline health and abuse as such issues. Great, not a murmur from the “ Greviously Offended”. Kerry-Ann Kennerly states the exact same thing and BAM, she is labelled a racist by all and sundry. What was the difference? Her skin colour. Who are the biggots here? Forget about rising mortgage rates. Forget about cost of living. Forget about power prices. Forget about The Paris Agreement. The number one most important issue in this country right now is the sexual and physical abuse of women and children in our northern Aboriginal communities. No more time for discussion, or open debate. That time has passed. So while you sit there and chew on your over priced designer cereal and barrister style latte, a child has just been raped and watched their mother beaten to within a whisper of death, and they know as sure as the sun rises that as soon as that dog awakes from his coma that it will begin again. All the while you argue the virtues of a change of date. Yet to see this piece of lefty crap Yumi Stynes picket an outpost in defence of the suffering. No she sits in her ivory tower preaching about biggotry, the very crime she herself commits. Please give this issue a thought, it needs action NOW! Debating a date change is distracting the attention it deserves.
Wow, you have caused a few dummy spits on here lately Gwen Addressing the seemingly small things build the foundation for addressing the big things. It’s how the world functions and grows in just about every facet. An American Indian elder once said that his people’s greatest hurdle and battle is the psychological one! You can not address an individuals issues if his psychological state is unsturdy. The way he thinks about himself. Correcting things that can easily be corrected should be corrected. Complaining about changing the small things because the big things aren’t changing should be a revelation! In 1778 this land mass wasn’t know as Australia. We all know it wasn’t an independent nation until 1901. The name Australia was still interchangeable with New Holland mid 19th century. In fact you’d have to think the name Australia wasn’t official until 1901. The poor bastards that were ejected from their own country and were sent here to free up space and simply get rid of the poor and down trodden is trying to glorify Britain’s harsh treatment of its people. January 1778 should be a day of mourning for both the convicts and the aborigines. It should be a day that remembers the real history not a day that pretends it was new beginnings for all involved because we know it is complete BS!
Well, while I do like your comment, a lot of people care more about their empty fridge, their mortgage repayments, their old car or what their neighbors are on about than they do for our indigenous people. Why do you think that is? Reg.
Ta, DV. First time I’ve had ‘KKK’ thrown my way. Maybe ‘Satan’ will be next. Then maybe ‘poo-poo head!!’ for good measure.
Cats I think we have become so insular. We tend to do things that will create attention on ourselves. I am obviously talking collectively, not individually. Something has to be in it for us. We can’t just do it out of civil pride or purpose, or even goodwill. Every act comes with a selfie it seems. Look I really don’t give a rats ar$e about the date of Australia day, but gee it give me the $hits watching those once a year protesters waving their concern and shedding their academy award tears. I didn’t see a single one of those fakes two months ago up on the Cape when I was helping some abused women shift out of town. Not a single tear was shed in Sydney, not one placard waved in support. Not even a mention. Why? Because the solution is so unpalatable that no white man dare discuss it for fear of being labelled a racist. The solution is so unbearable to the concience of a tortured nation that we must not even mention it. It is such an inconvienient truth that has only one way to deal with it that those cappucino clappers in the city choose to ignore it. Not one comment from any of those urban indiginees. Those poor women and children are merely the collateral damage from political correctness and the ignorant who march to its oppressive tune.
Given your experiences with these women, could you say a bit more about the situation and the conditions there. Because your kind of first-hand exposure/experiences doesn't really filter into our news services. I'd like to know more about the conditions and the scope of it as you see it. But no worries in any case.
Gwen, I hope you don’t mind me calling you that, I can only say so much as I have had to sign a confidentiality agreement for obvious reasons. For the most part, where I was, things a reasonably normal. That is early in the day. The monsters come out later. There are still good people in the community I attended, hence why we were there. This community is relatively safe but worsening as drugs and alcohol take control. At the moment the number of perpetrators is small but growing. This place however is on the cape. The organisation I on occassions volunteer for also work in the Territory and North West. They are a different story. I have had some horrific tales told to me. I have had tears in my eyes at the mere thought of what these women and children are going through. Gwen I do apologise for ranting in previous posts, but to watch people protest a change of date, yet are conspicuously absent on this subject, makes my blood boil. Even on this forum nobody really wants to engage outside a couple of curious questions. Unfortunately our response as a nation to this issue indicates who we have become. So please understand when I fire up when I see a national television personality bring the conversation to the mainstream only to be howled down as a racist. Her only crime is she was white. Gwen I despair. Everyday a child wakes to the druken touch of a monster, their mother either dead already or on the floor dying or wanting to die. What is the response? We are so far from enacting a solution because we can’t even mention it. Sad as it is to say, whitefellas care more about this issue than blackfellas. They seem more inscensed about a fu$&ing date a boat arrived.
Yes, please call me Gwen. Thank you for this post. It sounds so harrowing and heartbreaking working in that environment. Thank you for your work in the community helping the women and children. It doesn’t seem to be well reported. Over the years I’ve heard bits and pieces from various sources, but I haven’t seen comprehensive reporting on the issue. Or maybe it’s been done and I missed it. If there are others like me - it’s not that we don’t care - but that we don’t have the information, the stories, the actual events taking place. It doesn’t seem to be reported in any in-depth investigative pieces, but more as though bits and pieces are said in different places from various people. But nothing to latch on to to really understand/comprehend the situation and its size. Are there statistics? But I guess maybe there’s no one there in that capacity to count incidents? I wonder if people won’t pick up a cause if they feel unsure through lack of being informed/educated about it. You will know more about it than me, but I wonder what the Northern Territory Intervention of 2007 achieved. I remember reading there were only 20 child protection workers for the whole Northern Territory and that only one of those was employed full-time. And that the findings of the Little Children are Sacred were not implemented. But that the government implemented other stuff unrelated to the findings. It seemed a pre-election stunt to a lot of people. About violence. There just has to be proper structures/comprehensive services in place to deal with it. And the government has to fund it. Where are they in this? Not to take away from the plight of these women and children but we have a plight in the country all over the place. The government doesn’t bat an eyelid. And 214 Australians were murdered in 2018. If Four Corners ran a story on this it would raise awareness and alert people to the plight of these women and children. I don’t think it’s because people in the cities don’t care (Some/many don’t – but they don’t care about anything) but that it’s more to do with the remoteness/geography and the fact it’s not reported in-depth and at length, and also that the government is silent to violence happening there – and everywhere in the country. I know violence too. Battered senseless as a child, along with my mother and sister. Violence went on unabated with no intervention. That’s what four walls do. They block out the sounds and cries of violence. So I understand your concern and your despair. I really do think more people would engage and be concerned if they had more information and details and exposure to what is happening. Like TV, I also think that different issues seeking resolution/repair can move along at the same time. The thing about causes, I guess, is that people are drawn to different ones. If enough people cared about just ‘one’ out of every single cause in the world, we’d nail it. If I show concern for refugees, someone will say I don’t care about the homeless. But I do. I don’t think it’s either/or. I don’t think compassion is ‘selective’ compassion. I guess it has to be broad and vast and inclusive in its scope… to be called compassion. I hope I haven’t raised any hackles for you with this post. I haven’t meant to in any way. I just wanted to convey some of my own perspective… as I guess we all do on here. Thank you again for the work you do in the community to help the women and children. And I'm so sorry you've had to witness such tragedy.
