Australia's greenhouse gas emissions highest on record

So, tell me

Is reducing carbon emissions a good thing and if so why?

 

Since I am not in the cult I don't care one way or the other about C02 output but those that do and promised to reduce theirs are not doing so and are in fact increasing it. Only America is reducing theirs.. Oh the irony. LOL

 

Hypocrites in rooland, always pointing fingers.

 

I'm pretty sure 2017 wasn't under Obama.

 

No, AUS wont do anything. Hazelwood accounts for about 3% of AUS emissions, but it has to be replaced with something else so the emissions wont drop by 3%. And its a temporary drop, energy demand is increasing and it always will - unless AUS decides to step back to the stone age.

If you honestly believed AGW then you would all personally cut back on your energy usage. Instead of taking personal responsibility, you point to the government and the USA and China and Hazelwood. You could flip all the switches in your house to "off", stop using hot water and air conditioning (the biggest energy sinks in a house), you could put your laundry on a clothesline instead of using the dryer, you could walk everywhere and car pool when you absolutely could not walk. You could grow your own food, stop buying packaged goods (which have to be packaged and shipped and stored - lots of energy used in that process). You could put a wind turbine and solar panels up and go off the grid.

But you do not. Because you don't honestly believe AGW.

 

She may even want to consider turning her computer off instead of sitting at it bitching about global warming.

 

It's bitching about things that bring change, otherwise we would still be in the dark ages where a lot of minds here are.

 

You have to admit one thing people - Al Gore became a very wealthy man chucking fish to clapping seals.

 

Two possible solutions....... more trees.... and more cows...... (or perhaps even import more buffalo)?!

Both trees as well as cows need lots of water.......

Should Sorek 2 be in Australia or California?

Desalinated will do....

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534996/megascale-desalination/


and.....

 

Innovators brings change, bitchers just keep bitching

 

Paris accords is just another attempt at slowly moving us into being a one world government and redistribution of wealth.

 

He doesn't actually believe or care about what he preaches. Global warming is just a tool for power for him.

 

I agree that for aMonckton it was a tool for power

 

If you don't like redistribution of wealth then you'll want a concerted global climate policy because right now the lack of one is encouraging redistribution of wealth. That is, the current generation is stealing wealth from future generations.

I don't know about you but I feel it should be everyone's moral obligation to fix the damage they cause instead of forcing the problem onto someone else. But, that's just me.

 

Humanity lost over 600 years of discovery and advancement due to a religion declaring that any science beyond their power to control & own - was heresy.

If we finally grew up as a species and stopped religions controlling our lives, we would be colonising space right now; instead of being a doomed species about to die on a rock.

 

Really??? This is news??? I suppose if you’re gullible enough to think planting a tree reduces emissions by some miracle of scientific transmutation then this might be a surprise.

Oh oh and if you really do think this something of ignorance, I have this bridge for sale, locate at the Rocks Australia spanning a small river inlet, going cheap.

Have you actually read the Paris agreement??? it is not about reducing emissions but abating them. Should you look at all policy they talk about reduction of emissions to pre-2000 levels by paying to abate the emissions. Modelling shows the increases in emissions will continue to grow and in many cases more than doubling. While abating more than 70% to claim a reduction while reality is increase. It doesn’t take a genius to work out what happens if you’re just trying to show a pretty picture and not address the reality…

 

Well according to that the whole sgreenent is pretty worthless anyway but they do indeed say they will reduce emissions. So far that isn't working out to well.

• scale up their efforts and support actions to reduce emissions;
• The EU and other developed countries will continue to support climate action to reduce emissions

https://ec.europa.eu/clima/policies/international/negotiations/paris_en


Global CO2 Emissions Rise after Paris Climate Agreement Signed

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ns-rise-after-paris-climate-agreement-signed/

 

Well am glad we agree on something, unfortunately it is the reason for worthless, which so often comes down to measures not actual results, which we obviously do not.

It is shame, when it comes to money; people want to paint pretty pictures while distancing themselves from the truth. This thread in my opinion and very much evident on the premise is simply stating the obvious. Again, is this really news???

I don't know, the so called Western World sit down and negotiate deals which each participant can nationally accept and personally agree too while condemning the less fortunate of the world to mediocrity and in many cases short miserable lives. Pushing costs of what many take for granted out of the reach of those who can least afford it.

So much money is spent on studies trying to convince the least concerned of the world they must change to help the poorest of the world. However, they also show costly policy to placate some pretence of caring, righteous people are actually killing them.

I shake my head over these abatement deals. I wonder just how much people really do care. I myself will not support policy that condemns the poor. Policy which only stands to appear to be caring while actually doing nothing. Policy, such as the clean energy guarantee which artificially increases energy prices to subsidies inefficient policy such as in Australia. Where a government manipulates the size of the artificial increase of energy prices to pretend they are reducing energy prices while adding further level of cost to deliver artificially inflated cost of energy.

So when we see the policies to paint those pretty pictures, do exactly as stated and predicted, somebody posts a thread such as this, I have to ask, what is the point??? This isn't news and it is the reason many nations oppose this agreement. Signing up due only to threat of sanctions.

I have always said, many will tell everybody else how they should live as long as it does not affect them. ALL these policies are about getting everybody else to pay for their sense of righteousness… Disgusting really.

oh, love the quote Josephwalker. Rather thought provoking except dwelling the past not the future.

 

It's the sheep I tell ya!