Should Sorek 2 be in Australia or California?

DennisTate · Apr 18, 2018

Or perhaps in Mexico to produce fresh water for an Alternative Wall?

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534996/megascale-desalination/

Megascale Desalination
The world’s largest and cheapest reverse-osmosis desalination plant is up and running in Israel.

I live in Nova Scotia, Canada and I am worried that the residents of the town of Truro, N. S. may be in the position of being the most vulnerable to rising ocean levels so...... I feel a responsibility to get people talking about the option of ......... deliberately LOWERING ocean levels by fifteen centimeters (6 inches).... to create a buffer zone just in case rapid cracking and sliding of ice off the West Antarctic Ice Sheet or Greenland were to begin.

M. P. Bill Casey... President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....
... that you and the people of Cumberland - Colchester are in a perfect position to assist him with.

DennisTate said: ↑

One trillion dollars US would build 2000 plants of this size.....
and once they were running at full capacity could desalinate
627,000 x 2000 = 1,254,000,000 cubic meters of ocean water daily!
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DennisTate said: ↑

This actually could turn out to be A LOT LESS expensive than building
dams and levees and massive pumping stations in cities and towns that
are vulnerable to rising ocean levels.

Megascale Desalination
The world’s largest and cheapest reverse-osmosis desalination plant is up and running in Israel.
Availability: now

by David Talbot

Honorable Minister Mr. Bill Casey:

Can you think of any better way to divert one trillion of those 4.3 trillion USA Petro-dollars that could potentially be used to attack the USA economy?
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DennisTate · Apr 18, 2018

I went with Australia partly because your dollar is roughly equal to the Canadian dollar and
one of my biggest concerns at this time is that George Soros and his team might succeed in
organizing a serious devaluation of the USA petro -dollar.

https://totalwealthresearch.com/ric...-gamble-bet-u-s-collapse-warns-cia-economist/
Buffett’s $55 Billion Gamble is a Bet on U.S. Collapse, Warns CIA Economist

According to a new SEC filing, Buffett is sitting on $55 billion in cash through his company Berkshire Hathaway. This is highly unusual behavior from a man often called "the world’s greatest investor."

It’s the biggest cash hoard the company has ever amassed, in the 40 years he’s been in charge.

At a cost of $29 million every single day he keeps his money out of the markets, from all outward appearances, this is a risky and costly gamble. Unless Buffett is sure a Wall Street crash is at our doorstep.

Shocking: See the chart that may have caused Buffett to bet on a U.S. collapse.
But he’s not the only famous investor who fears a dangerous correction is coming.

Jim Rogers recently admitted to Yahoo! that he is staying far away from U.S. stocks.

New filings also revealed billionaire George Soros’ massive short position on the S&P 500.

Previously, Soros allocated 3% of his portfolio to shorting the S&P. It’s a common practice major investors use to insure their positions against unforeseen pullbacks.

But he just increased his short position on the S&P 500 over 5X fold, taking it to 16% of his entire portfolio.

That is an alarming sign that Soros is betting on a market collapse. And given his track record of predicting these events, it’s one we should not ignore.

So the question remains: Why are some of the “greatest investors alive” betting against Wall Street?

According to Jim Rickards, the CIA’s Financial Threat and Asymmetric Warfare Advisor, they are taking emergency measures now before a historic economic meltdown strikes – one he, and many of his colleagues at the U.S. Intelligence Community, fear is unavoidable.
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It was an exceptionally well informed member of Politicalforum who made me aware of just how many USA petro - dollars are out there in the hands of nations, companies and individuals who are not exactly friendly to the USA.

To view his full message please take a look at post # 18:

Best explanation for Weimar Republic Inflation I ever read....

"The very IDEA of associating HARD WORK, DEDICATION TO ONE'S PEOPLE AND WORKING A DEAL WITH FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS WHO GIVEN THE RIGHT DEAL AND RIGHT DIRECTIONAL FLOW OF HARD COLD AMERICAN CASH after all there the U.S. Treasury Satellite Currency location Detection Systems show about $4.3 TRILLION U.S. DOLLARS out there in the world floating around as FREE FLOATING CURRENCY when the U.S. Treasury ITSELF is LYING saying that there is only a bit over $2 Trillion out there free floating but NO!!! Those of us in the LOOP are well aware the exact total is closer to $4.3 Trillion." .......(AboveAlpha)
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DennisTate · Apr 22, 2018

250 views but not one comment so far.......
I shall have to get our ol' buddy involved in order to liven this up.......

A very simple and easy to understand explanation of why climate change is REAL.

AboveAlpha said: ↑

Members here can argue against GW all they want but there is ONE INDISPUTABLE FACT!!

That being that due to overall higher global temps. Polar and Greenland Glacier Ice Melt is causing the worlds oceans or sea levels to RISE AT AN UNPRECEDENTED RATE!!

Coastal U.S. Cities such as Boston, NY, Miami...etc.....are spending BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to combat rising ocean sea levels by building everything from coastal breakwaters and damns and dikes to building Multi-Billion Dollar Ocean Water Pumping Stations like in NY and Miami as sea levels are so high RIGHT NOW that even a small or moderate storm water surges are COMPLETELY FLOODING the streets of such cities and flooding the street drainage and sewer systems thus these massive pumping stations are necessary.

So members can argue all they want but what is HAPPENING NOW cannot be denied!!

AA
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If..... Australia and California could cooperate to save Americans in Miami, New Orleans, New York and New Jersey....... billions and billions of dollars....... would your project grab the attention of anybody in America?

How about in Israel?

You do know that at least one Canadian would be interested, me!

DennisTate · Apr 23, 2018

A carbon tax will cost Canadians ten billion dollars annually.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155551612507379

The increase in the interest payments on our national debt is even more alarming.

"We never should have privatized our debt and turned it over to the
private banks, we should have kept it in the hands of the Bank of Canada,
at least a major part of it, because then we would have been paying
interest back to ourselves." (NDP Leader Jack Layton)
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We Canadians have a much better option than what has been happening since 1974.

https://www.michaeljournal.org/arti...ce-our-country-debt-free-say-three-economists

The Bank of Canada Must Finance our Country, Debt-Free
By Harold Chorney, John Hotson and Mario Seccareccia:

“Governments these days find it easy to defend cuts in services and programs. All they have to do is point to their annual deficits and their total accumulated debts. (As of March, 1994, Canada's public debt was about $546 billion.) This public debt provides the politicians with a convenient excuse for cutting spending or raising taxes. Or both. “We're broke”, they tell us plaintively. “We can't afford to increase public services, or even keep them at their present level.”

A lesson from the War

“As the deep recession dragged into 1992, Finance Minister Don Mazankowski said he couldn't do anything about it. His hands were tied, he said. The federal government was broke. The cupboard was bare. The deficit and accumulated national debt were so enormous that his first priority had to be to reduce them — even if that meant prolonging the recession and making it even worse.

“So his budget contained almost nothing to revive the sick economy. With interest payments on the debt gobbling up one-third of tax revenue, his response was to keep taxes high and axe more public services and agencies. Like Martin Luther before him, Mazankowski in effect proclaimed: «Here stand I. I cannot do otherwise.

“But it doesn't take an economist to see that in fact he could. All you have to do is imagine what the government would do if it got involved in another Gulf War — or if that war were still raging. Would the Finance Minister have brought down the same kind of budget? Would he have said, «We'd like to keep on fighting, but we're broke, so we're calling our troops back»? Not on your life!

“Did Canada surrender half way through World War II because the national debt had grown even larger than the Gross Domestic Product (GDP)? Of course not! Somehow the extra money was found. If it wasn't by raising taxes or borrowing from the private banks, why, the Bank of Canada simply created all the money the government needed — and at near-zero interest rates, too!

“When World War II ended, the national debt relative to the national income was more than twice as large as it is now. But was the country ruined? Did we have to declare national bankruptcy? Far from it! Instead, Canada's economy boomed and the country prospered for most of the post-war period.”

The Bank of Canada has failed in its duty

“Why isn't the same thing happening today? Why was a much larger national debt shrugged off in 1945, while today's much smaller debt (as a percentage of GDP) is being used as an excuse to let the economy stagnate?

“The answer can be found at the Bank of Canada. During the war, and for 30 years afterward, the government could borrow what it needed at low rates of interest, because the government's own bank produced up to half of all the new money. That forced the private banks to keep their interest rates low, too.

“Since the mid-1970s, however, the Bank of Canada, with government consent, has been creating less and less of the new money, while letting the private banks create more and more. Today «our» bank creates a mere 2% of each year's new money supply, while allowing the private banks to gouge the government — and of course you and me, as well — with outrageously high interest rates. And it is these extortionate interest charges that are the principal cause of the rapid escalation of the national debt. If the federal government were paying interest at the average levels that prevailed from the 1930s to the mid-1970s, it would now be running an operating surplus of about $13 billion!”
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P.M. Pierre E. Trudeau made a serious error in 1974.

https://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/social-credit/item/the-public-debt-problem?/plenty34.htm

The Public-Debt Problem
Written by Alain Pilote on Monday, 30 June 1986. Posted in In This Age of Plenty (book)

But..... he was probably pressured into doing this by huge American banks.

We need to discuss ways to finance saving the environment that will actually work.... such as many replicas of Sorek in nations experiencing shortages of water.

I am hoping that they messed with the wrong man!

Did going bankrupt in '91 prepare Mr. Trump for the Presidency?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

Later in 1988, Trump acquired the Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, in a transaction with Merv Griffin and Resorts International.[67] The casino was opened in April 1990, and was built at a total cost of $1.1 billion, which at the time made it the most expensive casino ever built.[68][69] Financed with $675 million in junk bonds[70] at a 14% interest rate, the project entered Chapter 11 bankruptcy the following year.[71] Banks and bondholders, facing potential losses of hundreds of millions of dollars, opted to restructure the debt.
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DennisTate · Apr 24, 2018

I saw over half of Mr. Al Gore's new movie yesterday evening.... I will finish watching it as soon as i have more free time and I do highly recommend it.

I saw it on Netflix documentaries.

Considering his footage from Florida..... it looks like we can go ahead and initiate the deliberate lowering of ocean levels immediately.

https://www.algore.com/library/an-inconvenient-sequel-truth-to-power

An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth To Power (Movie)

https://inconvenientsequel.tumblr.com/

THERE’S STILL TIME

A decade after AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH brought climate change into the heart of popular culture, comes the riveting and rousing follow-up that shows just how close we are to a real energy revolution. Vice President Al Gore continues his tireless fight traveling around the world training an army of climate champions and influencing international climate policy. Cameras follow him behind the scenes – in moments both private and public, funny and poignant – as he pursues the inspirational idea that while the stakes have never been higher, the perils of climate change can be overcome with human ingenuity and passion.
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I have to admit that as he was complaining about how his message got ignored....... I remembered how he and his team had ignored the recommendations from Mr. Carl Cantrell and myself from back in 2007.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...for-25-million-virgin-earth-challenge.371794/

My two somewhat humorous submissions for $25 million Virgin Earth Challenge.

Back in 2007 Sir Richard Branson and Mr. Al Gore announced the Virgin Earth Challenge!

I had watched "An Inconvenient Truth" several times already and I was thinking about another angle on the subject that would fit better with Isaiah chapter 35.

http://www.virginearth.com/

"Today, Sir Richard Branson and Al Gore announced
the setting up of a new Global science and technology
prize The Virgin Earth Challenge in the belief that
history has shown that prizes of this nature encourage technological advancements for the good of mankind.
The Virgin Earth Challenge will award $25 million to
the individual or group who are able to demonstrate
a commercially viable design which will result in the
net removal of anthropogenic, atmospheric greenhouse
gases each year for at least ten years without
countervailing harmful effects. This removal must
have long term effects and contribute materially to
the stability of the Earths climate."
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Anti-Armageddon Paradigm Shift Monetary Policy Theory The Introduction.

http://www.virginearth.com/

"Dr James Hansen, Director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies: "I think we have a very brief window of opportunity to deal with climate change ... no longer than a decade, at the most. This is why I am supporting the Virgin Earth Challenge as a judge, we must explore all means, both known and unknown, to help alleviate this crisis."

Dennis Tate
March 15, 2007

Sir Richard Branson
Virgin Earth Challenge
120 Campden Hill Road
London W8 7AR
United Kingdom

Dear Mr. Branson:

It is my firm belief that the number one technological device to reduce atmospheric greenhouse gases has already been invented. It is the tree.

What is desperately needed at this time is not necessarily a new mechanical device but instead a paradigm shift in economic theory regarding monetary policy. We require a readily understandable explanation on how leaders in business and government can direct not only millions, but actually trillions of dollars of investment into combating global warming.

One of the most effective practical methods that could be put into place in the least amount of time would be dozens of the largest possible desalinization plants all along the Mediterranean and Red Seas. Huge quantities of fresh water could be dripped onto the Sinai and Sahara deserts and voila, well chosen species of newly planted fast growing trees could soon change the color of these relatively desolate areas, significantly reduce atmospheric CO2, positively affect local weather patterns and at the same time significantly counterbalance the increases in worldwide ocean levels as the polar ice caps melt. This will buy us some extra time and thus expand the “very brief window of opportunity to deal with climate change.”

So who is going to finance the construction of all these massive installations not to mention the planting of all those seedling trees?

I believe that it is possible for you to do this yourself Mr. Branson. You have already created a Virgin currency unit/coupon which has astonishing long term potential. My wife Maria Jose just returned from a two week trip to the British VIRGIN Islands. It is theoretically possible to link your Virgin coupon with the national currency of a small nation and you could soon be playing around in macro-economics. Considering the volume of business being done through your Virgin Group I would submit that you already are.

Pope Benedict XVI may be in an even stronger position than you Mr. Branson to transform the world economy virtually overnight through the introduction of a new Vatican Currency Unit that could be linked with each and every national currency where the Vatican State is free to do business.

I plan to elaborate in great detail on these two major alternatives in a later writing but I felt that you and your staff should now see the simple explanation that I wrote up for applying this theory within a micro-economy to greatly reduce unemployment. Although combating global warming would seem to be a conflicting goal to job creation, there need be no dissonance when we all have a better grasp of the big picture.

I ran as an independent for the office of MLA in the most recent Nova Scotia provincial election.

Dennis Tate primary campaign writing for June 13/06 election
http://www.bankingsystemflaws.blogspot.com/

My name is Dennis Tate. I lived most of my forty seven years in West Lochiel Lake, Guysborough County. I am running for MLA as an independent in the area of Pictou Centre so that I can help as many people as possible become more aware of what I am sure is the real reason why our roads are in disrepair, why hospital beds are unused, why so many of the rural schools have been shut down, why our soldiers in Afghanistan are poorly equipped and why many if not most of our young people may have to leave Nova Scotia to find jobs.

When well trained workers have high quality technology to work with then the total of all wages and benefits paid out to employees is only a fraction of the retail value of the products they produce. As a result of this fact the only way to move products out of warehouses is to extend higher and higher levels of credit. One problem with an abundance of red ink is that compound interest on all this government, business and personal debt over a period of decades will grow to astronomical levels. At this time there is approximately TEN TIMES as much debt in Canada as there is money. A simple explanation for how this happened can be seen here:
http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty34.htm

In my opinion this rather simple mathematical problem is perhaps the number one cause of inflation in the Canadian economy over the past three decades. This is also perhaps the number one reason why our costs of production are so high and Canadian products cannot compete on the world markets as well as they could under better conditions.

From 1940 to 1970 the Government of Canada put roughly half of the total money supply into the economy through loans issued through the federally owned Bank of Canada. Provincial and municipal governments could borrow the money to build roads, schools, hospitals and sewage treatment facilities at zero or one percent interest. In 1970 we changed our system and since that time a higher and higher percentage of all government debt is financed through loans issued through privately owned banks. At this time it is ninety eight percent. This policy may be great for our banking sector but it was estimated that in the one year of 1995 alone our federal government could have saved roughly SIXTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in interest payments if we had gone back to creating half the total money supply through these low interest rate loans issued through the bank that is OWNED BY ALL CANADIANS.

Considering that our deficit was approximately thirty billion dollars for that year, simply by changing back to an already proven monetary and banking system, we could theoretically have had a FEDERAL BUDGET SURPLUS OF THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in 1995.

The massive cutbacks in the Canadian military, in health care, highway construction, social programs and education were profoundly affected by these accounting practices?

So what can you and I do about this problem?
1. If we will do our homework and study this question we can put pressure on our provincial level politicians to create a provincially owned bank. A true Bank of Nova Scotia owned by all Nova Scotians could be used to finance town and municipal government projects at zero or one percent interest just as The Bank of Canada used to do.

2. Town and municipal government officials in New Glasgow, Stellarton and Trenton should seriously consider creating a local currency unit such as has been done in Ithaca, New York.
http://www.ithacahours.org/directory.php
This is a great way to promote local businesses and help sustain rural economies.

3. It is also possible for groups of concerned individuals to get together and organize a local barter exchange as a cooperative. Mr. Rob Assels has been instrumental in just such an initiative in the Tatamagouche and River John area so surely we can get similar organizations up and running here in New Glasgow, Pictou, Stellarton, Trenton and Westville. Here is a link into the Halifax LETS system:
halifaxlets.com/

.......
Warmest regards,

Dennis Tate

p.s. I shall be back to you shortly Sir with an explanation of how your Virgin Group could implement this theory in a form that for all intents and purposes could be patented/copyrighted.

"And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11:6 KJV).

"A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all [things]." (Ecclesiastes 10: 19).
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DennisTate · Apr 24, 2018

Mr. Cantrell and I submitted a proposal to the Virgin Earth Challenge elaborating on this theory. We didn't win, but we both feel better that we did our best to draw more attention to this seemingly logical method of combatting climate change:

February 22, 2008

Sir Richard Branson
Virgin Earth Challenge

Dear Mr. Branson:
Dear Mr. Gore:
Dear Mr. Tickell:
Dear Mr. Lovelock:
Dear Mr. Hansen:
Dear Mr. Flannery:

I am extremely glad that you are all doing your best to attempt to find a method to save the earth from the many perils associated with global warming. I believe you will be tremendously encouraged by the theory presented by biologist Carl Cantrell who makes a convincing case that global cooling can be initiated simply by pumping vast quantities of fresh water into the worlds largest deserts.

Global Warming II by Carl Cantrell

So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breath, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere, carried away by running surface water such as rain fall, is carried away to other areas by our winds, and diffuses down into the soil towards the earth's crust. All of this warms our planet increasing its average temperature.

Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes. This is very critical because warmer and dryer winds dry out other land areas faster decreasing the vegetation on those land areas. Less humidity in the air also reflects less sun light back out into space so that more sun light strikes the earth and more heat is generated.

The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave.

So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive.

Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds

This will do a number of things. First, it will increase the moisture in the desert soil so that it will develop water tables and water will begin to run in the streams. This water will increase the amount of vegetation in the area and decrease the amount of heat being generated by sun light cooling the watered area and all areas down wind of the watered area. As more available water evaporates, it will cool the air and reflect more sun light back out into space cooling the area even more. Cooler and more humid air will have less of a heating effect on areas down wind and will reflect more sun light back into space in those areas cooling areas we won't be watering yet. Cooler and more humid air will also have less of a warming effect on our seas and oceans.

Rain water running off of cooler soil will decrease the heating effect on our oceans and our planet crusts which will decrease catastrophic storm activities for other areas and seismic activity for the entire planet. Also, returning more ocean water to the surface and aquifers of our continents will lower the sea levels providing more usable land for us to farm and build on.

With cooler desert areas and increasing vegetation, less water will evaporate from our deserts increasing the amount of surface water even more and increasing the amount of vegetation and animal life by huge amounts because deserts currently take up more than 20% of our land surface. Populations will be able to spread out and there will be less competition for existing land areas.

This strategy has to be done in steps with the first step being to begin slowing the rate at which our global warming is increasing. We need to focus on that until we have brought it to a point to where the temperature is not increasing any more and is reasonably stable. While we are doing this, we need to come to a global consensus of just how cool we want to cool our planet down to. If we cool it down too much, we will begin to have devastatingly harsh winters in large populated areas and even cause an ice age to set in.

Then we begin cooling the planet down to a point which will be most beneficial for all countries or the planet as a whole. We need to gradually bring the temperature down because there may be a lag effect in which the planet will continue cooling after we stop increasing our efforts to cool it off more. We may even want to stop cooling the planet once or twice before we reach our targeted temperatures to see if there is a lag effect

We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time. (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell).
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Mr. Cantrell has agreed to become an official co-applicant along with me in my submissions for your Virgin Earth award. My primary contribution will be to figure out a method to PAY for this project which as Mr. Cantrell has stated, will be extremely expensive.

In Anti-Armageddon Paradigm Shift Monetary Policy Theory The Introduction I stated that you Sir Richard, or perhaps the Roman Catholic Pontiff were two of the most logical choices to FINANCE this possible remedy for global warming. I shall attempt in a later writing to elaborate on a method whereby perhaps I may be able to finance this project myself through an organized barter and film production company that works in cooperation with several other film production cooperatives and/or companies. Here is a brief outline of how this could be done.

I work night shifts stocking the shelves at the ........ grocery store in Antigonish.

I plan to invite ...... to also become official co-applicants along with myself and Mr. Cantrell in our submissions. Their role that I will be proposing to them will be to sell me higher and higher amounts of damaged goods from their stores beginning of course with Antigonish. I plan to print up a barter currency unit similar to how a group of concerned citizens have printed the Calgary dollar:
http://calgarydollars.ca/

Next I plan to encourage various local church and other non-profit organizations to become involved in a reality and/or semi reality film series where organized barter is used as a tool to raise funds for worthy projects that they desire to accomplish.

"The peril of Mother Earth and our children will not be alleviated without enlisting our spiritual heritage in the struggle. "Fight the worst with the best," advises farmer/poet/prophet Wendell Berry. At a National Academy of Sciences conference
in 1986 exploring the mass extinction of plants and animals on our planet, Paul R. Ehrlich of Stanford University declared, "Scientific analysis points curiously, toward the need for a
quasi-religious transformation of contemporary cultures."
(Coming of The Cosmic Christ by Dr. Matthew Fox).
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I completely agree with these comments quoted by Dr. Fox. It will be necessary to generate interest among and enlist the assistance of many of the deeply religious salt of the earth type of people in each nation if we are to succeed in preventing the destruction of Mother Earth.

I plan to get back to you soon with results from various groups as I submit this proposal to them. I also plan to make you an offer to purchase a significant share of a barter and film production company that I have had on my mind for several years now.

Thank you for considering our submission.

Kind regards.

Dennis Tate
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Sallyally · Apr 24, 2018

DennisTate said: ↑

250 views but not one comment so far.......
I shall have to get our ol' buddy involved in order to liven this up.......

A very simple and easy to understand explanation of why climate change is REAL.

If..... Australia and California could cooperate to save Americans in Miami, New Orleans, New York and New Jersey....... billions and billions of dollars....... would your project grab the attention of anybody in America?

How about in Israel?

You do know that at least one Canadian would be interested, me!
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I don't know how much money in Australia you think is available for that sort of investment Dennis, but I don't think it's that much.
Ps . Grand scale reafforestation is a very good idea.

DennisTate · Apr 25, 2018

Sallyally said: ↑

I don't know how much money in Australia you think is available for that sort of investment Dennis, but I don't think it's that much.
Ps . Grand scale reafforestation is a very good idea.
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The number one worry on my mind lately has been
George Soros succeeding in his plan to devalue the USA dollar.

He succeeded in breaking the Bank of England and the Bank of Thailand.....
so when he publicly admits to having a goal of devaluation of the USA dollar......
and when he get an ally as influential as Warren Buffet..... I am thinking that it is
time to take the man seriously!

George Soros admits to Slowly Crashing the US Dollar

If.... my theory on the multiplier effect on rising ocean levels based on
high tide levels is true.... then residents along the Bay of Fundy in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Canada and the USA State of Maine will be hit first....... Anchorage, Alaska will probably be hit second hardest because they have the highest tides after The Bay of Fundy.

But.... we Canadians are not in a position to desalinate huge amounts of ocean water so....... what we need to do is inform other nations of this option.

If Canada, Australia and Israel.... .can come up with a plan..... that takes those extra 4.3 trillion USA petro dollars out of the hands of enemy nations........ and into a plan to
lower ocean levels at the same time that we produce lots of extra fresh water, food and new forests..... then the USA is in a position to loan us those 4.3 trillion AT ZERO INTEREST just to ensure that they don't end up hitting the USA markets too fast...... in a disorganized manner and causing even worse chaos than Soros managed to do in other nations.

We Canadians and you Australians don't really want our dollars tied to the USA dollar..... but...... the risk of a devalued US dollar that is replaced by a Chinese currency is so great.... that it seems to me that we should be discussing how we can assist America with this serious threat!

M. P. Bill Casey... President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....

"The very IDEA of associating HARD WORK, DEDICATION TO ONE'S PEOPLE AND WORKING A DEAL WITH FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS WHO GIVEN THE RIGHT DEAL AND RIGHT DIRECTIONAL FLOW OF HARD COLD AMERICAN CASH after all there the U.S. Treasury Satellite Currency location Detection Systems show about $4.3 TRILLION U.S. DOLLARS out there in the world floating around as FREE FLOATING CURRENCY when the U.S. Treasury ITSELF is LYING saying that there is only a bit over $2 Trillion out there free floating but NO!!! Those of us in the LOOP are well aware the exact total is closer to $4.3 Trillion." .......(AboveAlpha)
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Post #18 in this discussion gives you the full text of the message where I got that number:
Best explanation for Weimar Republic Inflation I ever read....

DennisTate · Apr 25, 2018

Here is another low cost method of desalination of sea water:

AboveAlpha said: ↑

No....the Saudi's are using a Plan and Plant provided to them in a proposal a DECADE AGO!!

2014-2015 Tech......pump sea water into the desert into shallow pools.

Step 2.....completely encase them in an air tight double membrane 1st membrane water vapor permeable....send membrane...not.

Step 3.....Sun creates H20 Evaporation.....only pure water is collected between the membranes.

Electrical Costs.....ZERO%.....except for pumping.

AboveAlpha
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Here is another project that is all solar energy.

https://www.saharaforestproject.com/

https://www.saharaforestproject.com/technologies/

Technologies

By establishing a saltwater value chain, the Sahara Forest Project will make electricity generation from concentrated solar power (CSP) more efficient, operate energy- and water-efficient saltwater-cooled greenhouses for growing high value crops in the desert, produce freshwater for irrigation or drinking, safely manage brine and harvest useful compounds from the resulting salt, grow biomass for energy purposes without competing with food cultivation, and revegetate desert lands. The synergies arising from integrating the technologies improve performance and economics compared to those of the individual components.

In addition to its commodity outputs of food, energy and salt, the system also provides global climate benefits by sequestering CO2 in the facility’s plants and soils, and by pushing back the accelerating process of desertification through the revegetation of desert areas.

Core technologies
The three core components of the Sahara Forest Project are:

– Saltwater-cooled greenhouses – greenhouses that uses saltwater to provide suitable growing conditions that enable year-round cultivation of high-value vegetable crops even in desert conditions. By using seawater to provide evaporative cooling and humidification, the crops’ water requirements are minimized and yields maximized with a minimal carbon footprint.
– CSP for electricity and heat generation – using mirrors to concentrate the sun’s energy to produce heat that is used to make steam to drive a steam turbine, which in turn drives a generator to produce electricity.
– Technologies for desert revegetation – a collection of practices and technologies for establishing outside vegetation in arid environments, such as evaporative hedges.

Technology extensions
By establishing a commercially viable way to bring saltwater into the desert, the Sahara Forest Project works as an enabling technology, creating opportunities for a wide range of businesses to develop alongside it. These include salt extraction, traditional desalination, algae production, halophyte cultivation, PV, mariculture, bioenergy and more.

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https://www.saharaforestproject.com/jordan/

1. Algae-facility; 2. Saltwater based Greenhouses; 3. External vegetation and evaporative hedges; 4. Designed stepped protection for flash floods; 5. Facilities for research and accommodation; 6. Concentrated Solar Power facilities; 7. Evaporative ponds

In 2011, a Memorandum of Understanding was signed between the Aqaba Special Economic Zone Authority and The Sahara Forest Project AS in Amman, Jordan. The Jordanian Minister for Foreign Affairs, H.E. Nasser Judeh, and the Norwegian minister for Foreign Affairs, H.E. Jonas Gahr Støre, were both present at the signing ceremony to show joint Jordanian and Norwegian support for the agreement. The agreement committed The Sahara Forest Project AS to conduct three comprehensive feasibility studies in Jordan. The studies were financed and supported by The Norwegian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Three studies have been carried out:

The Jordan National Feasibility Study

The Red Sea – Dead Sea Synergies Feasibility Study

The site-specific feasibility study

The studies prepare for the construction of a 20-ha (200.000 sqm) SFP Demonstration Center, which will serve as a center for innovation, competence building, and demonstration of the economic viability of the SFP concept. The Center will be located near Aqaba, Jordan. The Aqaba Special Economic Zone Authority will facilitate the necessary land area for The Sahara Forest Project Center, including a corridor for the salt water pipe running from the Red Sea to the Center. The Aqaba Special Economic Zone Authority will also assist SFP AS in identifying and securing 200 ha (2.000.000 sqm) for later expansion.

The studies in Jordan have been carried out by The Sahara Forest Project in close cooperation with a large number of partners and contributors with diverse backgrounds and expertise. The Sahara Forest Project puts a high priority on its relationships with the scientific and business communities in Jordan and promotes a high degree of knowledge sharing between the various contributors. In-depth knowledge of local conditions, whether they are ecological, social, or commercial, is key to the success of the project. In every one of its undertakings, The Sahara Forest Project designs the SFP concept to best serve the environmental, social, and economic needs of the local communities.
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From what I have read the Israelis donated the technology to Norway...... because they knew that the Islamic nations would not accept the assistance directly from them.

DennisTate · Apr 26, 2018

Sallyally said: ↑

I don't know how much money in Australia you think is available for that sort of investment Dennis, but I don't think it's that much.
Ps . Grand scale reafforestation is a very good idea.
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This other discussion will fill in some details that I pretty much have to
put forward as a form of "art."

Matthew Fox Ph. D. in his book "Coming of the Cosmic Christ" referred to a theory that
in a world where technology is increasing rapidly, making it possible for government and
industry to lay off more and more of their workers..... some form of ART may be the only
possible way to achieve anything resembling full employment?

Jubilee 2018, Unified Field Theory of M.W.P's, opening gambit Australia.

Moi621 · Apr 26, 2018

DennisTate said: ↑

Or perhaps in Mexico to produce fresh water for an Alternative Wall?

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534996/megascale-desalination/

Megascale Desalination
The world’s largest and cheapest reverse-osmosis desalination plant is up and running in Israel.

I live in Nova Scotia, Canada and I am worried that the residents of the town of Truro, N. S. may be in the position of being the most vulnerable to rising ocean levels so...... I feel a responsibility to get people talking about the option of ......... deliberately LOWERING ocean levels by fifteen centimeters (6 inches).... to create a buffer zone just in case rapid cracking and sliding of ice off the West Antarctic Ice Sheet or Greenland were to begin.

M. P. Bill Casey... President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....
... that you and the people of Cumberland - Colchester are in a perfect position to assist him with.

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What of salt pollution as hyper salty water is returned to the sea.
Sure, at first it won't matter until it accumulates to where it does,
like car exhaust and smog.

What are your plans for that Dennis Tate?
Or just put it off to future generations.

Moi
Don't miss the new upload in
Is It True, Part Deux.
Thought Police

r > g

Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.

DennisTate · Apr 27, 2018

Moi621 said: ↑

What of salt pollution as hyper salty water is returned to the sea.
Sure, at first it won't matter until it accumulates to where it does,
like car exhaust and smog.

What are your plans for that Dennis Tate?
Or just put it off to future generations.

Moi
Don't miss the new upload in
Is It True, Part Deux.
Thought Police

r > g

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Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
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We Canadians still use huge amounts of salt each winter to reduce the number of car accidents.......
What I am proposing will produce so much salt that it is better for us to shift over to being supplied
by the by product of all that water desalination..........
(for the sake of the Canadians who own land and homes along the Bay of Fundy).......
than that we get it from other sources.

The salt that is left over after desalination contains essentially all trace minerals and the medicinal effect that
those trace minerals can have on humans has great potential to increase longevity and health...... and reduce our dependence on Big Pharma.

Trace minerals and longevity + health?

http://healthwisdom.org/aidsminera.htm

AIDS THE TRACE MINERALS FAMINE IMMUNE WEAKNESS
COMPILED AND EDITED BY DR. LEO REBELLO
President, AIDS Alternativa International

New science calls for all the trace minerals in food to stop AIDS the Immune Weakness Plague

Today's food lacks trace minerals in food. We live with a trace minerals deficiency problem. We are trapped in an accidentally manmade Trace Minerals Famine, which today causes immune weakness and the contemporary Aids problem.

Aids- Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome
Trough trace minerals deficiency in our modern food

Immunity is all minerals chemistry

Life is an all
minerals process

Any trace minerals deficiency causes immune weakness and degeneration

Better human immunity - Immune enhancement
through natural human food of all trace minerals quality

Our food chain lacks in vital trace minerals that affects plants, animals and humans. Sick soil, sick plants, sick humans.

The trees are nature's only trace minerals rotating tool. Without adequate tree cover nature's trace mineral treasure is washed down and out of reach for short rooted vegetation, the vegetation that provides our food. With the removal of the tree, nature's trace mineral rotator, we have placed ourselves in a trace minerals famine. Consequently, we are suffering. Peter Staheli's All Mineral Theory blames trace mineral deficiency in our modern food for unnatural spread of Aids.

New research shows that the people who have another source of all trace minerals reaching their bloodstream to feed a vigorous natural immunity helps to fend off Aids. They have alternative source of drinking water, from artesian bores, deep wells or ground water resources.

Any underground water naturally carries virtually all the 92 minerals that Earth is made up of. Whether the water is from the famous springs in Switzerland, the Australian Artesian Basin, an African country well, or any other place on the Globe. They are all equal in respect of all trace mineral quality and suitability for human consumption for the benefit of natural immunity. The miraculous healing power of underground water is old and proven wisdom. Therefore, spring water is sold all around the world today because of its health benefits.

Therefore, to remove hunger from Sub Saharan Africa and tackle the AIDS pandemic, drill a deep well and harvest the drinking water for the whole community.

Peter Staheli also offers an agricultural methodology to overcome this current Trace Minerals Famine.
It is an easy way to lift us out of this trace minerals famine and return us to natural immunity and natural health. This all trace minerals fertilizer carries the exact proportions of trace minerals like sea water, which is the cradle of human life. One application on agricultural land and grazing land will last for 10 years. The cost to apply this all trace minerals fertilizer would be half of an application of, for example, Super Phosphate and without any dangerous effect. Through this new science we are able to restore our planting and grazing lands to full natural all trace minerals quality as it was before we ruined our planting and grazing land.

This all trace mineral means can be taken in at costs of about One Australian Dollar per person per yearand is easily available in any quantity of never ending supply.

Through this new science. Aids and Cancer and many other neo-civilization ills could be naturally prevented and we could once again enjoy vibrant health.

Our modern food has become lethally deficient in trace minerals leading to unintentional Trace Minerals Famine. This kind of famine is totally manmade. Nature has not changed, but we have changed the nature of our existence. And through this change we call on degeneration and all its natural consequences where Aids plays an ever increasing role.

Past famine experience and old farming wisdom tells us the real story. Such history reveals that famines and widespread malnutrition has always been the source of immune weakness, odd ills and epidemics. Aids played a major role in all the historic famines. Aids played a role in all the ancient cultures where wrong nutrition and drugs interfered with the natural immunity of the population. Aids is not a new illness, but due to its insignificance has never been recognized until our modern society has fallen itself into nature's Aids Trap through mass food production of inferior quality and abusive lifestyle.

Apart from our contemporary all trace minerals deficiency our food today is also becoming increasingly less suitable for human digestion that is of herbivorous characteristic. Our ill selected modern food and junk-food causes a build up of unaccustomed uric acid in the human body. Our modern food market generally offers foods that are predominant in acid (non-metallic) minerals. An intake of such predominant acid quality is not suitable for the human (prevailing-herbivorous) digestion. Consequently, our modern predominantly acid foods are fostering illness through unnatural build up of uric acid in the human body.

Nature's Trace Minerals Rotation with the tall and deep-rooted trees

The giant tree is nature's Trace Mineral Rotator. Through its deep reaching roots the tree enriches itself with all the trace minerals. Through its leaves this all trace mineral treasure is spread again and again all over the surface of Earth for the benefit of short rooted vegetation. The all trace minerals quality (pink color) is evenly distributed and accessible to all vegetation. The food chain is still in natural order.

Below: The Trace Minerals Rotation is out of action

Our contemporary agricultural land is treeless. The Trace Mineral Rotation is dead and consequently man and livestock are trapped in a Trace Minerals Famine. The food chain has become defective in trace minerals.

The trace minerals are still naturally washed down by rainwater. Consequently the top soil becomes more and more deficient in trace minerals. The trace minerals (pink color) are not evenly distributed anymore, but washed down into the deep layers of the soil and, therefore, out of reach for short rooted vegetation.

The roots of vegetables, wheat and other human plant foods cannot reach down to the deeper soil layers to enrich themselves with all the vital trace minerals. Also our modern human food chain has become defective in trace minerals. Consequently this deficiency in trace minerals starves the human immune system of vital minerals for its anti bodies biochemistry. Aids and Cancer are classic immune deficiency syndromes and even our younger generation suffers from these syndromes because they cannot escape this lethal Trace Mineral Famine.

The natural nutrition is composed of 92 chemical elements. Humans are omnivorous creatures. As a result there is uric acid accumulation in the human body which is the root cause of serious diseases.

What is Life?
Life is a self-propelled biochemical process that originated in the sea. For such an immensely complex biochemical life process needs all the minerals to be able to perform naturally. Human intelligence mired in information age mumbo-jumbo will never be able to comprehend it completely. What for example do we know about our brain functions, how do we think and memorize? Our science knows very little about this. Therefore, we need to approach our modern health dilemma with logic evolutionary facts and not with medical guesswork. Good health and a long life is achievable only with the true natural food.

What is Immunity?
.....
(Dr. Leo Rebello)
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Moi621 · Apr 27, 2018

DennisTate said: ↑

We Canadians still use huge amounts of salt each winter to reduce the number of car accidents.......
What I am proposing will produce so much salt that it is better for us to shift over to being supplied
by the by product of all that water desalination..........
(for the sake of the Canadians who own land and homes along the Bay of Fundy).......
than that we get it from other sources.

The salt that is left over after desalination contains essentially all trace minerals and the medicinal effect that
those trace minerals can have on humans has great potential to increase longevity and health...... and reduce our dependence on Big Pharma.

Trace minerals and longevity + health?

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Remember what the Romans did to Carthage agricultural fields.
How much "salt" you gonna dispose of on yours?

Trace Minerals is just "salt" like NaCl.
An abundance ain't a good thing.

What Me Worry?
Let the Grandkids figure it out in a few decades
as salt is treated as so much harmless waste
like automobile exhaust circa 1900.

Is that the message of the Salt The Earth movement?

DennisTate · Apr 27, 2018

Moi621 said: ↑

Remember what the Romans did to Carthage agricultural fields.
How much "salt" you gonna dispose of on yours?

Trace Minerals is just "salt" like NaCl.
An abundance ain't a good thing.

What Me Worry?
Let the Grandkids figure it out in a few decades
as salt is treated as so much harmless waste
like automobile exhaust circa 1900.

Is that the message of the Salt The Earth movement?
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LOL!

I have to admit...... that I don't like the idea of using salt even on icy roads... but that is what we Canadians in Nova Scotia use at this time........ so at least it seems like a good way to make use of a by product of attempting to keep ocean levels stable..... at the same time that we produce more food..... and increase the number of CO2 eating plants.

I was hoping that the trace minerals.... could be separated from the NaCl in an economical manner........ so if the trace minerals are added to fertilizer..... (as Dr. Rebello's article suggests can be done very economically)......... then it would be merely trace minerals added to the fertilizer.... not the NaCl.

My wife and I have been using Himalayan pink salt for the last couple of years due to the abundance of trace minerals that it is supposed to have. I assume that the dollar stores would be more than willing to stock low cost by product sea salt that is even cheaper than what they have now if we decide to go all out in desalination of sea water on a large scale.

There are even some other promising ways to desalinate that could soon replace the reverse osmosis method.......

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39482342

Graphene-based sieve turns seawater into drinking water

.........
Plants may be our best ally in stabilization of the climate....

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/globalW2.htm

"Our environment is obviously undergoing major changes, and I believe that trees have a vital role in the atmospheric balance. Trees possess the ability to absorb much of the incoming energy. Gradually, trees that have absorbed energy submerge beneath the ground and turn into coal. Mankind is presently consuming unprecedented amounts of energy. Instead of storing the energy, like nature, we are releasing it into the atmosphere. Therefore, an international effort must be made to stop cutting down trees and to plant as many more as possible." (Dr. Chaim H. Tejman)
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Moi621 · Apr 27, 2018

DennisTate said: ↑

LOL!

I have to admit...... that I don't like the idea of using salt even on icy roads... but that is what we Canadians in Nova Scotia use at this time........ so at least it seems like a good way to make use of a by product of attempting to keep ocean levels stable..... at the same time that we produce more food..... and increase the number of CO2 eating plants.

I was hoping that the trace minerals.... could be separated from the NaCl in an economical manner........ so if the trace minerals are added to fertilizer..... (as Dr. Rebello's article suggests can be done very economically)......... then it would be merely trace minerals added to the fertilizer.... not the NaCl.

My wife and I have been using Himalayan pink salt for the last couple of years due to the abundance of trace minerals that it is supposed to have. I assume that the dollar stores would be more than willing to stock low cost by product sea salt that is even cheaper than what they have now if we decide to go all out in desalination of sea water on a large scale.

There are even some other promising ways to desalinate that could soon replace the reverse osmosis method.......

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39482342

Graphene-based sieve turns seawater into drinking water

.........
Plants may be our best ally in stabilization of the climate....

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/globalW2.htm

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What are you going to do with all that salt?
Bury it like nuclear waste?

Time to convert to "solar roads" to help keep ice/snow
from accumulating on roads.
No salt required.

DennisTate · Apr 27, 2018

Moi621 said: ↑

What are you going to do with all that salt?
Bury it like nuclear waste?

Time to convert to "solar roads" to help keep ice/snow
from accumulating on roads.
No salt required.
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Frankly..... I think that you are correct.... that would be the ideal way to avoid having to use salt on our roads........ and have some excess electricity for the grid as well!

http://www.solarroadways.com/

Hey..... cows and buffalo really like salt.........

so... maybe we could feed a lot of it to all the cattle and beefalo needed to save the world?!

https://permaculturenews.org/2012/1...ack-where-it-belongs-in-the-earth-tedx-video/

TONY LOVELL ON SOIL CARBON: PUTTING CARBON BACK WHERE IT BELONGS – IN THE EARTH (TEDX VIDEO)

I love the nice progression of logic in this presentation. Running the numbers like this shows not only how powerful a carbon sink our earth’s soils can be, under the right management, but also just how futile and what a goose-chasing diversion most contemporary technological ‘fixes’ for climate change really are.

When you see the upwardly stepped red line (10:32) showing the seasonal rise and fall of CO2 concentrations (zigzagging seasonally due to the massive intake of CO2 by the northern hemisphere’s deciduous forests over the north’s summer months), try to imagine how that line could peak and begin to step downwardly. It can happen — with holistic education aimed at a widespread effort towards large-scale rehabilitation of our soils; be they deserts, savannahs, scrub lands, set-asides, farms and gardens. Rapid revegetation can put our CO2 rich skies back into balance — pulling the carbon down into our soils, where it becomes a source of fertility, and thus even more vegetation…. The cycle of stupidity, that is our current carbon cycle, can thus become a cycle of stability, health and prosperity.

And, in case you think it can’t be done, consider that we’ve actually cooled the earth before — and not that long ago. Take a look at what is now termed the ‘little ice age’, which ran approximately from 1350 to 1850AD. Over these centuries there were a few significant dips in average global temperatures, and there is a lot of evidence to show that these cooling periods were caused by rapid regional revegetation in Europe, Eurasia and the Americas. In this case the rapid revegetation was caused, not by the work of such educational institutes as our own, but rather because of a sudden die-off of human population numbers, due to disease.
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DennisTate · May 2, 2018

I am taking the liberty of quoting an especially insightful
commentary on where I believe this could potentially lead.

It is so wonderful to see that somebody is really catching on
to how much potential is here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/introductiontommt/
Intro to MMT - Modern Monetary Theory

N..... L.... :

I'm reading Warren Mosler's 'Seven Deadly Frauds of Economic Policy'. About 10 years ago I read Michael Rowbotham's 'The Grip of Death' and Ellen Brown's 'The Web of Debt'.

One of my big takeaways from Rowbotham's book was the idea of 'free money' - money that circulated in the economy without a corresponding debt obligation.

I think all of these authors are kind of on the same page in realizing that federal deficits allow more 'free money' into the economy. One of the things I haven't picked up on yet in Mosler's book (or in the other two books) is the idea that bankruptcies and foreclosures are also ways for 'free money' to be added to the economy. Does anyone know of authors/bloggers who have thought about this?

The way I see it, people make contracts all the time that impose legal obligations for payment (for services or goods or whatever), without a corresponding (necessarily) increase in the money supply. Delinquencies, bankruptcies, foreclosures, etc... are positives from a 'free money' perspective. They reduce the need for the fed deficits. Or maybe I should say that delinquencies, bankruptcies, etc... from banks and other financial institutions allow more free money into the economy. Does this 'free money' eventually become part of the fed deficit? How does the accounting on that work? Does someone have a resource that goes through that sort of like Mosler goes through other aspects (in less technical terms)? Not saying this is good or bad.

My whole thing is looking at how we can combat climate change. On the one hand, I like MMT for pointing out the need for fed deficits to reduce bankruptcies, etc..., but to me the greater question is how do we change the equation so people value the planet enough before it's too late?
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and at the same group:

J.. M..... :

Yesterday, I asked a banker about banks creating money. I had an absolutely captive audience because I happen to be refinancing my mortgage, and he asked if I had any questions... "Wait, I can ask anything?"

"Sure, I'm here to help you."

"Where does the money come from that is going to fund my loan? It doesn't come from depositors because account balances are always available..."

Pause for a moment, then he smiled.

"It comes leveraging from the bank's assets. We can make a deposit into your account because the bank itself is creditworthy."

"So, it doesn't come from anywhere. You just input the numbers and you're allowed to do so because the bank has enough reserves or sellable assets to make settlements with other banks. How long have you realized that banks create money?"

"When I started in the mortgage department ten years ago, I didn't want to believe it, but after a few years behind the curtain, I understood. We convert promissory notes into dollars and broker them or hold them."
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LeftRightLeft · May 2, 2018

Moi621 said: ↑

What are you going to do with all that salt?
Bury it like nuclear waste?

Time to convert to "solar roads" to help keep ice/snow
from accumulating on roads.
No salt required.
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Separate the sodium and chlorine use it to make incendiary bombs and gas, start WW3 and all our current problems will either be solved or of no consequence

LeftRightLeft · May 2, 2018

But for God sake let's not do something new or innovative, let's just stick to what we know ,digging up stuff and burning stuff, and if we don't understand it, kill it. It got us out of the caves.

DennisTate · May 2, 2018

LeftRightLeft said: ↑

But for God sake let's not do something new or innovative, let's just stick to what we know ,digging up stuff and burning stuff, and if we don't understand it, kill it. It got us out of the caves.
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I found a video that confirms the number of 4.3 trillion
which means that we are in a position to make a serious shift
in the direction that the world economy can go in........ we need to do something to
prevent the USA dollar from going into a serious devaluation trend.

https://pro.moneymappress.com/p/MMR...1525314934-571105120.1525314934&h=true&h=true

FORGET IRAN, IRAQ, UKRAINE
THIS IS WHERE WWIII STARTS...

wgabrie · May 7, 2018

DennisTate said: ↑

I found a video that confirms the number of 4.3 trillion
which means that we are in a position to make a serious shift
in the direction that the world economy can go in........ we need to do something to
prevent the USA dollar from going into a serious devaluation trend.

https://pro.moneymappress.com/p/MMR...1525314934-571105120.1525314934&h=true&h=true

FORGET IRAN, IRAQ, UKRAINE
THIS IS WHERE WWIII STARTS...
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Those are doomsayers Dennis. But usually things turn out to be okay.

DennisTate · May 8, 2018

wgabrie said: ↑

Those are doomsayers Dennis. But usually things turn out to be okay.
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Wgabrie..... I really do think that you are correct and this is going to turn out to be
very, very good but.........
we are in for a major shift.

Ultimately ... yes.... I believe that President Trump for all his many flaws.....
is going to be guided to respond effectively to what is happening and yes......
I believe that the value of the USA dollar.... will be stronger than ever.......
but..... we need to be thinking in terms of the big picture.

Mark Taylor:

"Commander in Chief

April, 28th 2011

The Spirit of God says, I have chosen this man, Donald Trump, for such a time as this. For as Benjamin Netanyahu is to Israel, so shall this man be to the United States of America! For I will use this man to bring honor, respect and restoration to America. America will be respected once again as the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, (other than Israel). The dollar will be the strongest it has ever been in the history of the United States, and will once again be the currency by which all others are judged. The Spirit of God says, the enemy will quake and shake and fear this man I have anointed [1].

They will even quake and shake when he announces he is running for president, it will be like the shot heard across the world. The enemy will say what shall we do now? This man knows all our tricks and schemes. We have been robbing America for decades, what shall we do to stop this? The Spirit says HA! No one shall stop this that l have started! For the enemy has stolen from America for decades and it stops now! For I will use this man to reap the harvest that the United States has sown for and plunder from the enemy what he has stolen and return it 7 fold back to the United States [2].

The enemy will say Israel, Israel, what about Israel? For Israel will be protected by America once again. The Spirit says yes! America will once again stand hand-in-hand with Israel, and the two shall be as one. For the ties between Israel and America will be stronger than ever, and Israel will flourish like never before. The Spirit of God says, I will protect America and Israel, for this next president will be a man of his word [3], when he speaks the world will listen and know that there is something greater in him than all the others before him [4]. This man’s word is his bond and the world and America will know this and the enemy will fear this, for this man will be fearless [5].

The Spirit says, when the financial harvest begins so shall it parallel in the spiritual for America [6].

The Spirit of God says, in this next election they will spend billions to keep this president in; it will be like flushing their money down the toilet. Let them waist their money, for it comes from and it is being used by evil forces at work, but they will not succeed, for this next election will be a clean sweep [7] for the man I have chosen. They will say things about this man (the enemy), but it will not affect him, and they shall say it rolls off of him like the duck, for as the feathers of a duck protect it, so shall my feathers protect this next president [8].

Even mainstream news media will be captivated by this man and the abilities that I have gifted him with, and they will even begin to agree with him [9] says the Spirit of God." (Mark Taylor)
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I actually think that "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" by Robert Mendelson can play a significant role in
assisting Israel, America, Australia and Canada to unite:

1. to stabilize the USA dollar (because Israelis, Australians and Canadians cannot allow the dollar to plunge)!

2. to cooperate on large scale desalination of ocean water for agriculture, reforestation, protecting cities from rising ocean levels, and
actual stabilization of the climate, (which fits with Isaiah chapter 35 so even the political right can support this).

3. to help setting the stage for the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple because frankly.... the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter 47... can save billions of lives!

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/eze/47/1/s_849001
Ezekiel 47:1

¶
Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.
......
Ezekiel 47:7

¶
Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other.
Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed.
And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh."

I personally believe.... that we humans CANNOT save this earth that we happen to live on.......
so we must appeal to a higher authority for assistance.

God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land, Hebrew and Arabic.

DennisTate · May 20, 2018

Sallyally said: ↑

I don't know how much money in Australia you think is available for that sort of investment Dennis, but I don't think it's that much.
Ps . Grand scale reafforestation is a very good idea.
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My daughter has given me no choice but to
research all the work that is being done through:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsong_International_Leadership_College

Hillsong College, in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, is the training college of Hillsong Church, a Pentecostal Christian church affiliated with the Assemblies of God. The college operates from the church's two main locations, in Baulkham Hills and Waterloo. Brian and Bobbie Houston are the presidents of the college and Lee Burns is the Executive Vice-President.
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... because it is her goal to be trained as a worship leader.

Theoretically..... if Christian colleges will begin to discuss
Theistic Evolutionary Theory...... they would be in a position to
place something like Infinite Value....... on each human life......
based on the idea that an infinitely Ancient of Days the Father places something like infinite value on
each human life.... and we human are supposed to agree more and more and more with G-d!

Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe/ multiverse?

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Which type of project will you tend to get more involve in?

A job that you invested fifty hours of your time in over one month or a labour of love where you exerted a great deal of effort for 50,000 hours over forty years?

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05

"As I passed into the second light, the awareness came to me that I had just transcended the truth. Those are the best words I have for it, but I will try to explain. As I passed into the second light, I expanded beyond the first light. I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond infinity. I was in the void. I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time - the first word - the first vibration. I was in the eye of creation. I felt as if I was touching the face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply I was at one with absolute life and consciousness.

When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That's a mind-expanding thought, isn't it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event which created the universe. I saw that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by supercomputers using fractal geometry equations." (Mellen Benedict)
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Sallyally said: ↑

I don't know how much money in Australia you think is available for that sort of investment Dennis, but I don't think it's that much.
Ps . Grand scale reafforestation is a very good idea.
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So...... a One Hour Volunteerism note linked to a major Christian organization........
could be printed up.... (but in a digital form in a database has major advantages for purposes of taxation).....

... and this One Hour Volunteerism note or digital money.......
could be used to transform the world economy out of a generally depressed state.......
into OPTIMISM.... making it possible for such a massive paradigm shift in the world economy that
Americans in huge numbers will be able to afford retirement properties in rural America.......
and get out of the major cities by the millions:

Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?
Pastor David Wilkerson:

"There will be a sudden rush to buy farms, ranches, and homes in the country.
Thousands will attempt to flee from cities, hoping that a return to the land and
nature will provide security. There will be a growing urge to "get away from it
all"---and much money will be invested in land and acreage in rural areas by
people who have secret dreams of raising their own food and cattle and of
becoming self-supporting. The price of open rural land will continue to soar.
Acreage within 100 miles of most major cities will skyrocket out of reach to
all but syndicates." (David Wilkerson, The Vision, page 18,19).
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... and this shift in the world economy can be driven by the type of people who
tend to support President Donald Trump and who would also tend to agree with
what was shown to Pastor Rick Joyner back in 1995:

http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tc-en.html

Pastor Rick Joyner about nine tenths of the way down this page:
"Worship in Spirit

As I listened to Wisdom, it was difficult to comprehend anyone, even this great cloud of witnesses, desiring authority or position in His presence. It seemed that in every moment I had spent here, He had become greater in glory and authority, and I knew that my vision of Him was still limited. Just as the universe was obviously expanding at a great pace and the vastness of it was already incomprehensible, our revelation of Him would likewise be expanding for eternity. “How could mere humans ever represent You?” I questioned.

“When My Father moves His little finger, the whole universe trembles. To shake the nations with words does not impress anyone who dwells here. But when even the least of My brethren on earth shows love, it brings joy to My Father’s heart. When even the most humble church sings to My Father with true love in their hearts, He silences all of heaven to listen to them. He knows that one cannot help but to worship when they are beholding His glory here, but when those who are living in such darkness and difficulty sing with true hearts to Him, it touches Him more than all of the myriads of heaven can.

“Many times, the broken notes from earth caused all of heaven to weep with joy as they beheld My Father being touched. A few holy ones struggling to express their adoration for Him has many times caused Him to weep. Every time I see My brethren touch Him with true worship, it makes the pain and grief I knew on the cross seem like a small price to pay. Nothing brings Me more joy than when you worship My Father. I went to the cross so that you could worship Him through Me. It is in this worship that you, the Father and I are all one.”

Of all that I had yet experienced, the emotion coming from the Lord as He told me this was greater than I had ever experienced. He was not weeping or laughing. His voice was steady, but what He was telling me about worship came from such depths within Him that it was almost more than I could take. I knew that I was hearing the deepest love of the Son of God—to see His Father’s joy. True worship from the embattled, struggling, believers on earth could do this like nothing else could.

For the first time, I now badly wanted to leave that place, even with all of its glory, just to get into even the most dreary little worship service on earth. I was overwhelmed by the fact that we could actually touch the Father. One person who worshiped Him from earth during these dark times meant more to the Father than the millions and millions who worshiped Him in heaven. From earth we could touch His heart at this time like we might never be able to do again! I was so overtaken by this that I did not even realize I had fallen prostrate. I then fell into something like a deep sleep.

I saw the Father. Millions and millions were attending Him. His glory was so great and the power of His presence so awesome that I felt that the whole earth would not have even measured as a grain of sand before Him. When I had once heard His audible voice, I felt like an atom standing before the sun, but when I saw Him, I knew that the sun was like an atom before Him. The galaxies were like curtains around Him. His robe was composed of millions and millions of living stars. Everything in His presence was living—His throne, His crown, His scepter. I knew that I could dwell before Him forever and never cease to marvel; there was no higher purpose in the universe than to worship Him.
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Actually... I now lean toward a database.... over printed notes.......
because this basic idea could pay off the national debts of all democratic nations that allow churches to work for the poor, sick and oppressed......
Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.

.... around the 23 minute mark in this video... Pastor Shane Warren talks about being shown that the metaphorical Bride of Messiah.. the church will rise up..... and solve problems that political leaders do not know how to begin to address....

DennisTate · May 20, 2018

LeftRightLeft said: ↑

But for God sake let's not do something new or innovative, let's just stick to what we know ,digging up stuff and burning stuff, and if we don't understand it, kill it. It got us out of the caves.
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I am talking about a total paradigm shift in the world economy based
partly on the idea of G-d evolving.........
and learning..... .over infinite time in the past.... and becoming
off the scale emotionally attached to all the life forms that have been created.......
partly because the time and effort that would be put into designing
eleven dimensions of space and time is utterly beyond the ability of us humans to begin to grasp......
while we are still stuck in four dimensional space - time.

Page two of this discussion thread elaborates on how huge of a shift I have in mind.

I am truly impressed that more than 35% of people who post to this forum
have caught onto this idea:

Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?

The first Intelligence began in.....?

Carbon based life less than 5 billion years ago, on earth.
7 vote(s)
50.0%

Carbon based life in outer space.
2 vote(s)
14.3%

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Fundamental or nearly fundamental energy.
5 vote(s)
35.7%

This is a new question that I am only now facing.
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