AWESOME- Unborn child has inalienable RIGHT TO LIFE- AL Supreme Court

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    So under an "Abortion Prohibition"....doctors who perform abortions or pharmacists or herbalists who sell abortifacients....

    are going to keep detailed paperwork of their crimes, so the Womb Gestapo can find it and prosecute them????
     
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    Only through voluntary means.
     
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    Ummm, you are for the mother depriving the child of their body by tossing it in the trash aren't you? Yes you are.
    Your right to life is derived from natural law as in NATURE'S LAW. Every living creature has a right to life and you get that right for just being on the planet. Your body doesn't grant you the right.
     
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    You either have paperwork showing a legal action took place or a non illegal one did. So if said person has miscarriage , she has evidence / note from a doctor showing that is what happened. But like I said before, I think a law like such would be silly.
     
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    Yeah right..... I'll have to search the threads and see if you oppose any of the Obama admin's redistribution schemes.:peace:
     
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    Since nature is full of creatures killing other creatures, I don't see how you can derive a right to life from that.

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    Feel free. I'm on record on this forum as supporting a Constitutional amendment to end the ability of the government to provide welfare.
     
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    Here we are again with ridiculous statements. It's called, wait for it, wait for it.....THE FOOD CHAIN!
     
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    1. (in answer to your last sentence) I think the ardant "pro-lifers" here don't think it would be "silly".

    2. (in answer to the rest) Makes no sense. If a doctor performs an "illegal abortion"...his paperwork will reflect it as a "medically necessary therapeutic D&C due to a miscarriage" (In fact, this was often used back in the old Pre-Roe days....a fact that probably isn't known to many of the "pro-lifers")

    So the Womb Gestapo will have no documentary evidence to use against that doctor. Nor naturally the woman.
     
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    So animals only kill other animals for food? Who's the one making ridiculous statements again?
     
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    Now that's silly. I can't kill you just because I want to eat you.

    Uh huh....
     
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    If you believe in "Natural Law", then that's exactly what you can do.

    I believe all rights are derived from property ownership and property ownership starts with one's ownership of their own body.
     
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    Abortion laws are silly. People are going to have abortions no matter what; legal or not. I personally don't want to see unborn fetuses in dumpsters over these silly laws.
     
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    Most of the time yes. There are times when they kill for defense of BEING eaten and to protect their families. All logical reasons. Do you actually think there are murderous animals just roaming around looking to murder something? LMAO! Only humans do that. Look, you really don't understand this at all. EVERY living things has a right to life. If they die trying to sustain that right, that's life. A mother WILLINGLY killing her child for no other reason than she doesn't want it, is plain out murder. Can a parent just kill their already born children because they don't want them anymore? Some have tried, but as far as I know, that's called murder.
     
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    So I am assuming all the pro-lifers will be willing to pay more in taxes to help pay the medical bills of all the children born with downs syndrome or some other horrible affliction because the Mother was forced to give birth to that poor child.

    Oh that's right, the pro-lifers stop caring once the baby is born.
     
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    If you want to get all 'legal' then (outside of criminal rape) actually a woman is the 'lessor' of her womb and the fetus is the 'lessee' until it is born. Since the 'lessee' cannot defend itself then the man who impregnated the woman should have the right to defend the fetus since it has his DNA.
     
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    Yep... then the baby becomes another "mooch." Abortions are low-income mostly.

    Typical hypocrisy of the right-wing.
     
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    Don't forget more taxes to pay for the Womb Gestapo, Walter. Police are over-worked as it is...and given some of them MIGHT be pro-choice? They might decide NOT to investigate cases of alleged "aboriton homicide".

    Harken back to Prohibition again....Eliot Ness and the rest having to be called in. Plus you're talking about something that (as I've shown) is almost impossible to prosecute since the woman and/or doctor can claim was something "natural" (miscarriage).

    And we are aceepting the UTTERLY outrageous and Utopian idea of a NATIONAL ban on abortion....which isn't realistic at all, given strongly pro-choice States like California, New York, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Illinois, etc.

    Imagine if the "pro-lifers" had to come up with ways to "prove an abortion homicide"....when all a woman has to do (Yes, even a woman in fiercely "pro-life" Alabama) is take a short bus trip to Illinois "for the weekend"?

    What will they do? Have vaginal ultrasounds at every point of departure out of Old Dixie? Will we see "Fugitive Fetus Laws"...where they demand women who are pregnant and seeking an abortion in New York are "deported" home to Texas or Georgia?

    It's a whole new can of worms....one the "pro-lifers" have NEVER considered.
     
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    So if my son rents a room in YOUR apartment building and you want to evict him during a blizzard...I have the legal right to stop your eviction or use the police to stop it???

    I can control your property?
     
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    the topic is the inalienable right to life of the unborn child

    it's not about abortion. It's about the rights of the child as deemed by the AL SC
     
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    If the doctor is willing to risk his license, then that's likely . But I doubt they would be very eager to do so .
     
  21. Gorn Captain

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    So in other words, the decision is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to abortion?!?!?!?!?
     
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    Don't hold your breath, sec. People will continue to kill each other both inside and outside the womb...
     
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    Yes, it completely is.
     
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    What "risk" is there? Therapeutic D&Cs are medically necessary to control uterine bleeding.....will the "pro-lifers" want them banned? And then see women die of uterine infections?

    The doctor can call it anything he likes....with ZERO risk of being proven wrong.
     
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    Of course, it's not. That's why "pro-Lifers" are hailing the AL court's decision.
     
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