Barr authorizes Justice to probe 'substantial allegations' of voter fraud

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  1. Egoboy

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    Yeah.. let's file a lawsuit over every election anomaly..

    I'm sure that's a great idea..
     
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    Except of course that there are affidavits from people alleging improprieties. Including back dating ballots that came in past the time allotted and of people not allowing observers to actually observe by keeping them 30 or more feet away from the ballots.

    You are. Don't you want to make sure that there was a fair election? If you're so sure that there was a fair election then why do you oppose an investigation? If nothing is found then you just assured The People that all was fair. If something is found then surely you would want to correct that? Its a win win for all.
     
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    That was your idea, so I'm happy you think so.

    I was just implying that it was incompetent to target that area based on the voter, date and mail-in data.
     
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    There is no "there", there.

    ALL of these cases are going to be thrown (or laughed) out of court.

    It is just a matter of time.

    This stuff should be long over before the states certify their electors.

    All that these "cases" represent are "False Hope" and Trump's Desperation.
     
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    Nope.
     
  6. Kal'Stang

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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    It's as easy to lie in writing as to lie any other way. Affidavits are as valid as any other form of hearsay.

    If a date/time was changed on a ballot I would believe that would be fairly easy to detect and show. Let's see one.
     
  8. Kal'Stang

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    You mean like the affidavit from the Ukraine whistleblower? Bet you didn't dismiss that one so easily.

    Do you have access to the QVF? I don't. Who does? Remember, they're supposed to be secret. Which means you have to have/get authorization to view them.
     
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    I asked you first Professor. So far, you have provided nothing but your feelings.
     
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    Trump in his phony zeal to overturn the election has only made legal challenges in States where he has lost and many of his followers get sucked right in. Trumps frivolous suits have nothing to do with justice or fairness since he's not in the least concern if there was fraud or mismanagement in the States where he won. There is nothing patriotic about this. This is all about sniveling coward (Trump) who lacks the maturity and guts to accept his loss. But the Supreme court is on to Trump's totally frivolous attempts to win an election outside of the peoples will. The Supreme court has flushed Trumps frivolous case against Obama-Care down the toilet. They will do the same at Trumps asinine frivolous attempt to completely overturn an election in court. This narcistic pathological president has lost the trust of justice and the American people. He has shut down the transition process out of spite but that is truly sad for are nation.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...affordable-care-act/ar-BB1aRIlm?ocid=msedgdhp
    "Key Justices Signal Support for Affordable Care Act"
    "WASHINGTON — At least five Supreme Court justices, including two members of its conservative majority, indicated on Tuesday that they would reject attempts by Republicans and the Trump administration to kill the Affordable Care Act'.
     
  11. Egoboy

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    I always assume US elections are fair... I'm also assuming you did too, before you were told to believe otherwise by a fool...

    "Improprieties" are being walked back every day... because it's really hard to stick to a lie when push comes to shove..

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/postal-worker-recants-claims-fraud-024203321.html
     
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    LOL.. because that one went through a lawyer and was vetted.... can you possibly understand that difference?

    Also, the fact that everything in that report was backed up 100% helps as well..
     
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    Actually I've been calling for reforms to make our elections more secure for far longer than Trump has been around.

     
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    All affidavits go through lawyers. :rolleyes:

    And it took just 6 days for the House to call for impeachment after WAPO released the story about it. Are you telling me that it was proven 100% in just 6 days? No. It wasn't. There was an investigation.
     
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    It was essentially proven when Trump released the phone call a few days later... of all the stable genius moves over the years, I bet that's the one he regrets the most..
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    Do try to focus on the subject of the thread.
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    They are first hand accounts not hearsay and given under threat of perjury and making false statements, once ballots are submitted and recorded you can't trace them there is nothing on them to trace.
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    As I just said, hearsay is still hearsay, written down and sworn to or not. I will gladly testify under oath that Trump flagellates frogs if anyone will pay me $25,000 to do so. Hell, I'll do it for lulz since it can be neither proven nor prosecuted.

    Without any sort of other evidence, you have a delicious nothing-burger here. Bon Appetit
     
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    Cowardly Trump will not overturn a legitimate election. You keep grasping at straws hoping the Justice Department and the Supreme court. will hand the election to Trump because a fair election doesn't appeal to you. But Trumps claims never hold water and are always frivolous. Lol Trump has been desperately trying to take healthcare insurance away from millions of people but the supreme court recognized his stupidity and won't go along with his frivolous demands to take healthcare away from millions. Now he's trying to overturn a fair and legitimate election through his attack dog Barr. It won't work and the Supreme court wont help Trump steal an election any more than it helped him steal healthcare from millions.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...affordable-care-act/ar-BB1aRIlm?ocid=msedgdhp
    Key Justices Signal Support for Affordable Care Act
    WASHINGTON — At least five Supreme Court justices, including two members of its conservative majority, indicated on Tuesday that they would reject attempts by Republicans and the Trump administration to kill the Affordable Care Act.


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robert...e-court-wont-wreck-obamacare/?sh=13b0795a6078
    "The Supreme Court Won’t Wreck Obamacare"
    • "Those now arguing that the Court is capable of wrecking the law appear to believe Republican appointed justices are purely partisan political animals marching to the Trump political line. That reflects a lack of understanding about the justices and their dedication to the rule of law. According to the Supreme Court Database, from 2000 to 2018, 36% of all decisions were unanimous. Their 7-to-2 or 8-to-1 decisions made up 15 percent of decisions. The 5-to-4 decisions, by comparison, occurred in only 19 percent of cases. And, in the 2019-2020 term, with Gorsuch and Kavanaugh aboard, only 21% of the decisions were 5-3 or 5-4.
     
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    I smell pure hypocrisy in the air. By your logic Trump should release all his tax returns like every other President has done since Nixon even when they were under audit. I don't see you demanding anything of Trump. The fact is "little Hitler" is trying to over turn a fair unobstructed election through the Justice Department or the Courts and you love it.
     
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    Perhaps you're missing the obvious then. If the election boards themselves created an unlawful condition, the votes would be invalid, and a new election would be required. Happens all the time.
     
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    Why didn't you?
     
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    Sorry Wally. Because you don't accept my proof doesn't mean it wasn't provided. You on the other hand have provided nothing but hot gas and will be considered as such.
     
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    Still waiting for proof rather than your feeeeeeeeeelings.
     
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    Maybe you are unfamiliar with the word "affidavit". It is a signed statement made under oath. That is all the courts need to start a case. Now the supervisors could claim otherwise, but in the end they would have to produce ballots that were recieved on the 4th that were not stamped for the 3rd, and were not included in the count. Of course, ballots that were hand stamped with the 3rd's date would prove the claim of the affidavits.
     

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