BBC staff told there are more than 150 genders – Telegraph

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  1. Moolk

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    My point is you are absolutely, unequivocally wrong. You said a country, which is not specific.
     
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    Incorrect, but not specifically stating GB and instead saying “a country” you were not being specific. That is not my fault. That is your fault.
     
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    Pretending to be a woman when you're not can only go so far, before it's considered sexual assault. I saw it many times in Thai clubs/bars. It's dark, and people are drunk, AND people are pretendng to be women.

    Is there a line after which it's wrong for someone to pretend to be a woman? Or is it perfectly OK for them to pretend all the way to the point of intercourse, and thereby tricking a man who didn't want to touch a penis into touching a penis? I'd say that pretense DOES cause some anxiety, and imo is a form of sexual assault.
     
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    communication should solve things like that. If you’re in an area where dudes and chicks often get confused about what’s in their pants it would serve you well to ask a few questions. Some people might want to trick someone, some may want to be tricked, but asking to open the garage door to verify things isn’t out of the question. I’d say if you trick someone into something they don’t want and get your bell rung, you’ve asked for it. Don’t trick people, it’s sexually impolite.
     
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    The communication is there; it just varies according to the person. Some will tell you they are not a woman right away. Some will let you grind it out on the floor for a couple songs before they do. Some will make out with you before saying it. And some will even come back to your hotel and let it proceed to the point that your hand is on their penis.

    The point is: they must stop pretending at some point. And it all began with: "you call me 'she'".
     
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    I am reminded of the opening few minutes of the old 70's cartoon Fritz The Cat. :lol:
     
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    If you're taking complete strangers to your hotel room for sex, you're wilfully opening your self up to a wide range of surprises. It's your choice of course, but you're not in a strong position to complain.

    And maybe your partner believes you when you say you're a single millionaire businessman when you're really a part-time burger-flipper with a wife and two kids at home. :cool:
     
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    It's simple really: when I go out to hook up, I'm seeking a woman, and at no point during the night do I want my hand on male genitals. And the way that happens, in practice, is that if the person is not really a woman, at some point in the night he will have to say that, before it gets to intercourse. Otherwise the male seeking the female has been sexually violated. And I've seen enough of it to know that's exactly how these men feel. One time I saw these beautiful women strap someone they pulled from the crowd to a bed they dragged onto the stage. They then danced on him and kissed him as they slowly blindfolded him. Very smoothly a trans person slid on top and started kissing him. When the blindfold was removed, one could tell he felt sexually violated.
     
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    As I said, if you're looking to "hook up" with strangers, you choose to put yourself in that position of risk. If it's that much of a red line for you, you just need to get confirmation earlier. Sadly, loads of people looing for "hook ups" are dishonest and manipulative in trying to get what they want, especially men.

    I also can't help wondering why you keep going to places where this is apparently a common enough occurrence for you to have multiple examples. I've literally never witnessed it anywhere, home or abroad.

    Couldn't that have happened if it was a cis woman though? Not all men (or people who present as male ;) ) would have automatically wanted that, with that specific person. Again though, if they consented to a certain level of intimacy with a stranger, they can't be too surprised if that person isn't who they thought one-way or another, especially if they're consenting to be tied down and blindfolded by said stranger. Who in their right mind would even do that?!?

    Incidentally, how did you know the dancer was trans but the man apparently didn't?
     

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