Because some on the board still deny it..........

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  1. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We do know why.

    WASHINGTON — Within hours of opening an investigation into the Drumpf campaign’s ties to Russia in the summer of 2016, the F.B.I. dispatched a pair of agents to London on a mission so secretive that all but a handful of officials were kept in the dark. Their assignment, which has not been previously reported, was to meet the Australian ambassador, who had evidence that one of Donald J. Drumpf’s advisers knew in advance about Russian election meddling.

    The F.B.I. investigated four then unidentified Drumpf campaign aides in those early months, congressional investigators revealed in February. The four men were Flynn, Manafort, Page, and Papadopoulos, current and former officials said. Each was scrutinized because of his obvious or suspected Russian ties.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And yet still no charges have been brought up after 1.5 years. Weird that they would keep letting this man stay POTUS with "so much evidence".
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You change the subject a lot. I know why.
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you notice this in your report above?


    Think about the bold red part. They have no clue if it had an impact or not since they did not bother to study that.

    All they did was give us all some BS.

    They have teams of experts and those paid to assess and they did not bother finding out if it impacted on the election.

    How sweet is that?

    Obama promised us all no act by the Russians could impact the election.

     
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    Again, how is this collusion? Russia supposedly provided paperwork about how the dems fixed the primaries for Hillary, provided debate questions, and whatever else they did. How does this in away say its Trumps fault? How is this collusion? How is this any different than what Obama did in other countries like Israel? It still just stings that your candidate lost, and youre grasping at straws. Anything that Russia put out has provided zero evidence that anyone had their mind changed because of it. Where are the millions of witnesses that recant their vote for Trump and say if they didn't know about how corrupt Hillary is, they would have voted for her? Is very sad that you guys are so willing to ignore how corrupt your candidate is when others weren't willing to turn a blind eye to her just because of her political affiliation.

    And I remind you again, I didn't vote for Trump, I voted for Gary. Id still vote for Gary, its just hilarious watching your guys do the same thing as the Birthers did.
     
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    The only Russian "meddling" was through social media and here we have:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...russians-accused-election-meddling/602319002/
    So, of the thousands of ads, only 100 were pro Trump and most of the rest were using identity politics. And since the MSM painted Trump and his supporters as racist, Nazi's, homophobes, etc, those ads would have had a negative affect against Trump. So let's see the data that says Russia helped Trump.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So.........you're OK with a foreign adversary working to get a candidate elected prez of the US because it is virtually impossible to assess the impact? Let's back up to the part where Russia took an active role in supporting Don. Just how hysterical would you be if they had supported Hillary and she won?
     
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    Why the hell did Obama declare over and over that this is not possible? Why did he assure us the Government would contact all voting agencies in all states to alert them and they would never let it take place? In thread is Obama promising no meddling.
     
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    You guys always get the details wrong. Likely because you believe the lies right wing media tells you. Here is what Obama said.

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is funny because I gave you the video.
     
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    You must not have listened to it.
     
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    How does this matter in any way whatsoever?
     
  15. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That in no way contradicts his comments that I provided the forum.
     
  16. Robert

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    He did not contradict his other remarks.
     
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    Well, we all know the actual voting system. The true voting system does not add all states votes together in a huge block but separates states and each state announces it's electoral vote to the congress who then ratifies the outcome. So the argument is therefore with congress.
     
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    And a poll can not be expected to predict the outcome of a system that does not prioritize a popular vote.

    The polls were as right as a poll could be when predicting the outcome of an election.

    Trump supporters may wish to think of his victory as a great upheaval and some sort of nebulous victory over something. Nonsense. Never forget that he achieved victory only because what the American voter wanted was ignored.
     
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    1) What was the committees opinion of Hillary's campaign accepting direct help from the Ukraine government?

    2) Please direct me to your posts expressing your outrage at this interference by a foreign government.

    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire - POLITICO
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
     
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    Lol... Oh you guys... do you know how U. S. elections work ?
     
  21. Lee Atwater

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    It absolutely contradicts the comments you made.
     
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    Then you changed the subject since both videos are of Obama and he gave the same story. Nobody could hijack the election so he said.
     
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    The committee's mandate was to investigate a possible conspiracy between the Drumpf campaign and Russia. If Hillary had won I imagine they would have looked in to the efforts of Ukraine IF there was evidence her campaign had something to do with those efforts.

    But your attempt to change the subject is noted.
     
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  24. Lee Atwater

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    I think you must be hearing impaired.
     
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    For some odd reason I figured you are since you still refuse to listen to what Obama told people when mocking Trump and insisting nobody could rig or meddle with the election. And the official report says clearly the Feds did nothing to discover if meddling worked.
     

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