Ben Carson 2016

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  1. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Didn't affect Obama's when he went around campaigning in the inner-city churches claiming to be a Christian.
     
  2. Serfin' USA

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    Being Christian doesn't require denying evolution.
     
  3. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Wth does that have to do with anything ?!

    Obama's chances weren't affected when he said, on national TV, that God created the universe.
     
  4. Inviolate

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    Ben Carson is the exact opposite of Mullah El Barrack Ibn Husseini Imam O'Bama Chief Black Eagle. Carson has character, morals, values, and principles that are foreign to Obama.

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    Herman Cain did not express himself well. Carson is far and away more articulate than Cain.
     
  5. Serfin' USA

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    Ok, let me rephrase. When I say "creationism", I mean believing the world is only 10,000 years old. In other words, young-earth creationism. Old earth doesn't deny evolution.

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    It's not Carson's articulation that is the problem. It's his fanaticism on certain topics. He'll alienate the moderate vote.
     
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    Adam and Eve's time in the garden is indeterminable. Eternal youth until the fall.
     
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    What fanaticism would that be? That America is great and that we have inalienable rights bestowed by the creator?
     
  8. Micketto

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    So the reason people would choose a Barack Obama but not a Ben Carson, is that their version of creationism is different.
     
  9. Serfin' USA

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    I was just giving one example of why Carson would alienate much of the public.

    To be honest, Obama probably wouldn't have won had it not been for how unpopular Bush was. Hillary was the safer bet for Democrats in terms of electability.
     
  10. Tahuyaman

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    Everyone knew he was doing that with a wink and a nod.
     
  11. Serfin' USA

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    I don't think a flat income tax would be very popular among the masses if they realized how much that would increase our public debt.

    You'd have to cut spending dramatically before that's feasible.

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    The fossil record would suggest that Genesis is a primarily allegorical story -- much like a lot of the rest of the Bible.
     
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    Ok, tell us what you actually like about Carson with references if possible.
     
  13. FixingLosers

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    Oh man I haven't seen such concise, witty and somewhat cunning sarcasm in years.

    It puts liberals' paradoxical, if not schezophrenic psychology to full display.

    "Obama isn't a hypocrite, and he isn't a real Christian either... well, ... you get it, he is like, a saint, whatever he does, he does it for a reason and he is right by default" — What a typical liberal would think of Obama when it comes to religious matter.
     
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    It wasn't meant to be either sarcastic or witty. Just truthful. And you know it's true, don't you?
     
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    You are not getting the point here. Obama sounded fairly fanatic before he became the president. Obama got media on his side working with him so a lot of those rubbish got swept under the rug. The media kinda served as the Teflon layer for him.

    Carson doesn't even need media. All he needs is media not working too rabidly against him. Because Obama looked so bad.

    Besides, there is a huge percentage of Americans DO indeed believe bible's account when it comes to geology. In short, those who don't vote for him, wouldn't vote for him because he suddenly became pro-evolution. Those who do support him would simply look away when it comes to such topic, just like the liberal atheists did to Obama.

    And most American atheists sadly, no matter how fervently they deny, are politically motivated rather than scientifically convinced. The fact that almost all atheists' blogs on the internet have entries that spill sometimes lewd and absurd venom against Ayn Rand serves as best testament for my argument.
     
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    It mystifies me that someone could become a doctor and know so little about evolution. The same with Ron Paul. For example apparently Ben Carson said (in reference to the development of the eyeball) "“Give me a break. According to their scheme, it had to occur over night, it had to be there. I instead say, if you have an intelligent creator, what he does is give his creatures the ability to adapt to the environment so he doesn't have to start over every fifty years creating all over again.” If Ben Carson had actually studied the subject he would know that in the "scheme" of evolution things don't happen over night. A population could start with organisms that have a light-sensitive cell and then evolve from there.
     
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    1) Why would cutting spending be a bad thing. It is the states who would spend tax money more efficiently in education, health care, and a whole host of other areas.

    2) Regurgitateing tired Atheist talking points devoid of intellectual honesty and superficial value serves you poorly.
     
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    That is exactly what he is, and so is Herman Cain.

    Tell me, when do you think Uncle Toms stopped existing? Or do you think they still exist just not in the Republican party? Im curious what your thoughts on this are.

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    If you cut spending for education, infrastructure, etc, you are only throwing yourself in a deeper hole. Ever heard of priming the pump?
     
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    I think he does know this but Reich Wingers use religion as a tool to manipulate people and keep them dumb and subservient. The word Islam itself means "submission", Christianity is the same, its all about submitting to a celestial dictator so rich oligarchs can take advantage of you.
     
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    A flat tax is a shady way of saying "raise taxes on the poor and cut taxes for the rich" lol, because thats exactly what would happen under a flat tax and they know it.
     
  21. Inviolate

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    'Uncle Tom' is a racist set aside. Carson is the real deal. A real American. His race is irrelavent. His character, morals, principles, and values are. For O'Bama his race is paramount, his character, morals, principles, and values are non-existant.

    Ever heard of absolute failure? That is what our education system, infrastructure, and now add healthcare is.
     
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    What do you think of Jesse Lee Peterson? He is a fox news contributor who literally thanks white people for slavery and is constantly talking about how much greater white people are too black people. Do you see that as being an Uncle Tom?
     
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    I hear he's a pretty good guy but we're going to find out sometime soon that he got into med school only because he was needed to fill a quota. Buh-bye silver bullet.
     
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    I do not know who that is. But from your description it sounds more like unnecessary self deprecation and poor self esteem. I am better than no black person, and no black person is better than I.
     
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    Nah, what we're going to say is that he got into med school only because he was needed to fill a quota and that he knocked some deserving white guy out of MD contention. That kind of stuff goes over much better with liberals than with conservatives (who will be choking on their own criticisms of Obama). Token black/Uncle Tom not needed this time around.
     

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