Betsy DeVos: I'd be 'fine' if we could ditch the Education Department

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  1. TheJudge

    TheJudge Active Member

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    If you'd taught them well, like my kids, they could afford their own college.

    But, aren't you a conservative? Why are you even sending your kids to college? Isn't that where they are taught to be evil liberals? Shouldn't you be keeping your kids at home and teaching them how to change a carburetor on a '72 Cadillac?
     
  2. Drago

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    You have not been to an inner city school before? Many are exactly that and its sad.
     
  3. Heartburn

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    But how did they get that way?
     
  4. squidward

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    while the little libbies run up vast sums of debt learning how to soothe their little egos in safe places, there still are a limited number of beneficial things to study in college, things that can actually promote skills that will get you ahead in life. Most of the little safe place liberal retards are too lazy to do the work to pass those classes anyway.
     
  5. squidward

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    if the people of those neighborhoods take that little pride in themselves and the education of their kids, they need to have their genetics fade form the face of the earth.
     
  6. Drago

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    You know it happens and always will. My point being the tax system of funding schools does not work for inner city kids. Other methods need to be looked at.
     
  7. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe a 2 tier school system would be in order. For the kids that show up and score in the top 50% of their class, they get live teachers. The ones that simply don't care, cut class and goof off, they have classes on DVD with a room proctor to pass out, collect paperwork and keep the peace. The money saved can be used to build more prison space.
     
  8. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    I don't see why this agency is needed if the Federal government wants to help with States educational systems do it through other agencies and to assist in key areas workforce education, science education and areas like that in a case by case basis and only in an advisory role.
     
  9. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Did you not even read what I posted?

    You fall for the fantasy that Presidents control the budget. They do not Congress controls the budget. Presidents can have input depending on the make uo of the House, the Senate and the White House. So just list listing numbers based on who was President is folly.

    Forninstance your two picks Reagan and Bush43. Reagan request less spending every year than Congress authorized. Hadbtheg adopted his spending request and recisions he submitted the deficits would have fallen tobunser $100B his last three years heading to surplus. And then of course the Bush41 deal that he would go along with the Democrat tax increases if they would cut spending which of course the never did.

    Then Bush41 why do you attribute the FY2008 and FY2009 budgets to him? Those were Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi budgets with their 9% and 18% spending increases. They bragged about how Bush would not stop them getting those spending increases and in just two years took the last Republican deficit of just $161B to their whooping $1,400B

    And of course it was Gingrich and Kasich who forced apending restraint along with tax rate reductions which increased revenues and welfare reform which reduced cost on Clinton during his last term and produced the surpluses.

    Thowe tax policies help grow the economy that puts leople back to work and turns them into revenue instead of expense.

    See above Congress increased spending during Bush41 going against their agreement. And you can look at for instance. Clinton increased tax rates and the atrong revenue growth he inherited slowed. The Republicans cut tax rates and in particular capgains and revenues SOARED. We collected more than double capgains tax revenues at the Bush43 15% rate then the Clinton 29% rate.
     
  10. Sampson Simpon

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    The only people into indoctrinating people are conservatives and red states. There is actual evidence of this, trying to teach creationism in science, and revisionist history, particularly in the south.

    So many conservatives are just so completely brainwashed, its unreal. I think it would hurt the kids in poorer red states to not have education funding, and then have their local nutjobs teaching them revisionist history and creationism and they will immediately be at a disadvantage. And who is going to look out for the poor areas? Property taxes fund schools, well, when you have a poor area, there isn't much money. All students that are in public school should get equal education. But that isn't the case, and its solely based on whether their parents are rich or live in a rich neighborhood

    It's ridiculous the right wingers with their "liberals are poopyheads" talking about we need more science and math (well, agreed) but has the nerve to blame right wingers when they are anti-science is so many facets. THey want creation taught instead of evolution, one of the most widely supported scientific theories, they often think homosexuality is a choice, and they think climate change, something agreed upon by 97% of scientists , is a myth. And they have the nerve to want to blame liberals for this. What a joke. My god, are some of you even capable of thinking?
     
  11. Turin

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    If your educated above the high school level, you would be an exception, not the rule. I haven't seen any evidence to support this however.
     
  12. Turin

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    You are correct. No dissent is allowed. Because you CANNOT DISSENT facts. FACTS ARE FACTS, regardless of your inability to believe them.
     
  13. DOconTEX

    DOconTEX Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, not educated above high school level. And you know this .....how?

    What evidence do you need?

    I perceive most leftists hereon are mostly high school dropouts or may have graduated from some college with a useless fluff degree in, say, art or humanities, or even more worthless, one or another of the various "studies" courses. They now work dispensing delicious coffee concoctions or are playing video games in mom's basement. But, by golly, they know how to shout, scream, burn cars, vandalize buildings and hold signs criticizing Trump.

    Then too, who is more valuable to the functioning of a modern society, a high school educated master electrician or a PhD in women's studies?
     
  14. DOconTEX

    DOconTEX Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right. It was once a FACT that the earth was flat. It was once a FACT, the science was settled that bleeding people with leaches would cure disease. It was once a FACT that the sun revolved around the earth.

    Science evolves, understanding grows as new data are presented. And that, by the way, would be data that has not been fabricated or manipulated to produce a conclusion that agrees with a political narrative as so many of the "scientists" who promote "climate change" have been revealed over the last few years to have engaged in. Here is the one of biggest and most famous scandals, one among many that seems to be revealed (although not trumpeted in the MSM who want to keep gullible fools frightened by the non existent man made "global warming" narrative) almost every month. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/12/understanding_climategates_hid.html
     

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