Biden kills 70,000 jobs in his first day.

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Seriously, you are joking. Are you looking out your window at windmills ?
    I bet you’re breathing polluted air from fossil fuels though.
    You can’t even live near a tar sands operation.
    “Oil spills are always bad news, but many people don't realize that tar sand spills are even worse. When tar sands is spilled in water bodies, it will sink. Take, for example, in 2010, a pipeline ruptured and spilled a million gallons of tar sands into the Kalamazoo River.”
    This sht is more toxic at EVERY STAGE OF USE.
    https://www.nrdc.org/stories/10-threats-canadian-tar-sands-industry
     
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    So if it's not racism, it's global warming(I thought they called it climate change now a days.). You know what they call this? A straw mans argument. That;'s what the Democrats have been reduced to. Trump(was)/global warming is a straw man's argument.

    And you can't argue against a straw man because it doesn't talk back.
     
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    Plenty of right wing platitudes from Fix News distribution, but no facts.
    Global Warning has big racist elements.
     
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    It's not a Fox News statement, it's literally fact. If you can blame a whole set of problems on one claim(global warming) then yes philosophically we'd call that a straw man's argument. When said problems have existed about as long if not longer than global warming but the link hadn't been claimed until now, we can even more easily call BS.
     
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    And nat gas burns cleaner then liquid petroleum products. What’s your point ? You now in agreement ?

    It’s better for coal miners, NOT to work in coal mines. If one can’t find another job other then coal mining, that’s an “ education” and retraining problem not a problem with renewables. BTW, EVERY FORM OF ENERGY IS Derived from the sun.
     
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    I'm trying to be kind.
     
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    So, our military is wrong to include global warming in every long range plan that involves our security ? Now “you’re smarter” then literally, everyone in related education, governance, military and climate research and all related fields. You should be a “scholar” not posting here.
     
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    Sounds like you’re trying to be misinformed. You keep referring to “Solar whatever” and not realizing that every form comes from our sun ( or others) and not realizing that in our basic form, the closer we come to energy generation to that from the sun, the fewer the problems and the more efficient it becomes. Nothing is problem free.
    I’m assuming too you think the world is older then 7k years.
     
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    Btw, calling something a fact is a far cry from something being a fact.
     
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    You have proof of that ? Obama expanded and supported use of nat gas. Joe isn’t ?
    https://www.latimes.com/world/la-xpm-2012-jan-26-la-na-obama-energy-20120127-story.html

    a moratorium on NEW LEASES is not a cut.

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/environment/2021/01/27/president-joe-biden-halts/
     
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    So? Some great grandfather used to spent his whole life raising horses to pull carriages.
    The automobile killed that job, while the telegraph killed the pony express.
    And the internet killed the telegraph.

    Nobody cries fowl over the fact that a guy repairing the telegraph lines went out a job these days.

    Joe also wants to replace all the combustion cars from the fed government with electric cars build in the USA.
    So that's a lot of jobs going towards those factories who produce them.

    Pumping CO2 in the air is invisible, but it contributes to global warming and so it does FAR more harm than the hurt on your eyes when you see a windmill.
    It's too late to go on a denial trip of global warming and the costs it comes with.
     
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    I mean, I could be but I'm not interested in a scholarly life. I just find it incredibly funny that over the last 60-70 years, government has wasted public spending dollars on these programs, you've made ZERO headway on what you think is the issue(scientists have recently said this is futile anyway) and you still think it's important.

    It's cute, really it's cute(it's a waste of taxpayer dollars.)
     
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    Look in the conservative mirror. Every time conservatives take power, they deregulate and spend like drunken sailors while cutting taxes. Without exception, a recession ( or two) ensues.
    The same with AGW. Without progressives and repos who used to believe in global warming and pollution two decades ago it would be much worse.
     
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    I would ditch the fix news crap that just makes you sound silly. Or worse.
     
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    CC has nothing to do with pollution.
     
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    It is futile because 90% of the world does not care and will not comply. Even Norway is not complying. World population will be 11-12 billion in 30 years and green house gases will double no matter what we do.

    If the libs honestly believed we are already in crisis mode they should be advocating a world war against all major offenders and oil producers. Possibly even select nukes to certain areas to reduce population and development.

    This is a sick ideology.
     
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    Yet you need constant correcting, like in this quote:
     
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    We sold NGL (natural gas liquids) and when we decided to run our trucks on propane we used that product as our feed stock and processed it through a depropanizer system to give us propane.
     
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    Do you object to the spelling reference or the idea that your ideas seem to be in lock step with Fix News. Really, you’re not using MIT et al as a reference.
     
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    And that's why they think the Paris Accord will help. Basically it's "Well, if you Yankee saps give us more money." ROFL. We really are an international sucker.
     
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    The US contributes MASSIVELY to greenhouse gases. China the most, but they got A LOT more people there. So per capita... it's like half of what the US does, while they are starting to make plans already to crub it. The EU is, while US is not going anywhere.


    The real sick ideology is simply not caring about how much greenhouses gasses your country pumps in and pass the bill to your kids.
     
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    Maybe breathing this sht too long can make some people delusional. ;)
     
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    The excuses seem to run the gamut.
    There is no pollution.
    If there is, it’s too expensive.
    No one else cares, why should we ?
     
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    Pretty much was Trumps attitude about COVID. Let’s drop the pandemic task force. Wtf cares, I’ll get my shot, I’m rich. Fk everyone else.
     
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