Biden: There Is 'No Federal Solution' to COVID-19 Response

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  1. Egoboy

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    Thanks....we're still pretty happy with the choice..

    I didn't see a new thread on this, but this thread seems to be about a federal response to COVID, so I was wondering if anybody saw the 6th circuit ruled on Friday (12/17) that the OSHA vaccine mandate on 100+ businesses is OK??

    I didn't.... not sure how I missed it.

    https://www.benefitspro.com/2021/12...-sixth-circuit-court/?slreturn=20211128200839

    This was the case that went to a random circuit to consolidate a bunch of cases... 3 judge panel

    1 Obama appointed, 1 Bushie Jr appointed, and 1 unqualified judge...
     
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    Scrolled through some of the reasoning... the Opinion is TOO long, and the Dissent is TOO RW Wacky, but the 3 paragraph Concurrence with the base opinion from the Bush judge is JUST right...

    Page 38.... 3 paragraphs, this is #3

    SNIP
    Our only responsibility is to determine whether OSHA has likely acted within the bounds of its statutory authority and the Constitution. As it likely has done so, I concur
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/21a0287p-06.pdf

    Things would go a lot faster in courts if we boiled stuff down to this level every time...
     
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    Still no federal solution. Vaccinations have not solved the Covid problem. Something the moron in the White House promised to do. Some 81,000,000 gullible voters.
     
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    And this too.... anybody with a brain would really hate losing this much in court, but it IS the GOP we're talking about...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-rules-against-gov-kevin-003148605.html

    Federal solutions coming out da ass.... But it takes the GOP governors (with the apparent exclusion of the guy from Arkansas) to fully get on board...

    That is where I suggest you point your laser-like wit...
     
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    Ask the thousands more people that died of Covid on Biden's watch than Trumps. Oh, that's right they're dead.
     
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    You still are wrong. Biden's promise: "I’m never going to raise the white flag and surrender. We’re going to beat this virus. We’re going to get it under control, I promise you."

    He failed and 81,000,000 voters failed! You get do you na na na finger pointing all your wish, but that is a failed promise from your president. Failure in Chief!

    Have vaccines saved the citizens of the United States? Gee, I have a good friend, fully vaccinated, no underlying conditions, who would say not if he was hear to say it! And he lived in one of your liberal states.

    Joe Biden is a failure through and through and the voters who voted for him own that!
     
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    It has saved many who are vaccinated.... sorry about your friend, but there are always going to be exceptions. We lost 2 (distant) family members in early 2020 before vaccines, but nobody since vaccines...

    Joe Biden was handed a poisoned electorate. I mean, who could really predict 38% of the population would CHOOSE not to play the solid odds and take the T**** vaccines? Or that truly moronic governors would try to implement laws to PREVENT localities from trying to do the responsible thing?? Truly amazing year for truly moronic governors...

    You will never convince educated America Joe Biden is worse on handling the pandemic (or frankly anything) than T****... so that leaves your base and you will never convince them that the earth is round....
     
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    They do have a history of severe bias, and even when they report an actual event they always put a heavy spin to it to make it sound like something its not.

    Of course there is no solution that is 100% federal, and no one ever said there was. Feds, States, local authorities need to work together.

    Newsmax Media Bias
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/newsmax-bias-credibilty-reliability/

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    • We rate Newsmax Right Biased and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories and pseudoscience as well as numerous failed fact checks.
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    Questionable Reasoning: Conspiracy Theories, Pseudoscience, Propaganda, Fake News, Failed Fact Checks
    Bias Rating: RIGHT

    On 4/30/2021, Newsmax apologized to Dominion Voting Systems for claims that they manipulated voting machines and counts to thwart the re-election of President Donald Trump. The statement reads, “Newsmax has found no evidence that Dr. Coomer interfered with Dominion voting machines or voting software in any way, nor that Dr. Coomer ever claimed to have done so,” it said in a statement. “Nor has Newsmax found any evidence that Dr. Coomer ever participated in any conversation with members of ‘Antifa,’ nor that he was directly involved with any partisan political organization.”

    Through this apology, Dominion Voting Systems dropped the defamation lawsuit against Newsmax.

    Read more in link
     
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    Yeah? Still not true.... yet...

    Getcha facts straight...

    T**** - 424,402 (329 days - first death to inauguration day)
    Biden - 391,837 (341 days - day after inauguration day to 12/27)

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_totaldeaths

    Of course, that math is being kind, since there is zero chance for anything Biden did to affect anything for days or weeks after inauguration, but I'll stick with it anyway...
     
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    I quite literally have said the same thing and the response has been… exactly what you would expect.
     
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    Well, to give Newsmax due credit, they did manage to accurately report the 3 key words Biden said (in a quote they saw in a video), so it was a banner day in the basement...

    They must have broken out BOTH six packs of Busch with that journalistic success....
     
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    Nah they’re weak journalists who can’t handle real stuff. They drink Pabst blue ribbon.
     
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    I am an educated American and fully convinced that Joe Biden is the worst President in my life time. And that includes Jimmy Carter. Nice man, horrible President. Can't say the same about Joe. Horrible man, horrible President.
     
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    All this information and crystal ball or should we say PREDICT, where would the left be without them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Yikes....

    Not to change topics, but I saw this funny, yet accurate, quote about a COVID Disinformation Artiste, so I thought I'd pass it on

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    “We all hoped and prayed the vaccines would be 100% effective, 100% safe. But they’re not,” Johnson said on Monday. “We now know that fully vaccinated individuals can catch Covid, they can transmit Covid. So what’s the point?”

    After playing a clip of Johnson’s interview, Harlow asked Dr. Reiner, who advised the White House medical team under President George W. Bush, what he thought of those comments.

    “I’d say that he’s so misguided that it makes me wonder whether this is all just an act. And if it is an act, what does that say about what he thinks his constituents want to hear?” Reiner said, later adding. “And if this is not an act, then he is just the most ignorant man in the United States Senate. And that says a lot.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...an-in-the-united-states-senate-073255797.html

    I feel really good for a 2nd D Senator from the Cheese state in 2022... I guess Mandela Barnes is the current favorite?
     
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    Nah, I'm not holding out hope. I don't think that's what's going to happen. Lots of politicians say stupid thing and still get reelected.
     
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    So true, but I'm thinking Johnson wore out his welcome years ago. He's a complete wacko....

    Johnson won in 2016 by only 3.4% at only 50.2% of the vote

    2 years later, Tammy Baldwin won by 10.9/55.4%

    State has a D governor as well, although a heavily gerrymandered R state legislature. I'm also thinking these ridiculous, inept, expensive "audits" going on up there are going to piss a lot of people off..

    https://www.wpr.org/absolutely-prep...ions-commission-pushes-back-nonpartisan-audit

    I'd like to see Wisconsin return to their rightful place as a reliably Democrat (and democratic) state...
     
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    You changed the terminology from "determine outcomes" to "influence outcomes". That is not by mistake as you move the goal posts.

    No, sorry, government can not determine outcomes. It does't matter how much legislation, money they throw at things, or even incentivize, outcomes are determined by the individuals.

    Government thinking it can change outcomes, worse determine outcomes, is how we end up with failures like the War on Drugs.

    The left is all too willing to give the government more and more control without realizing that the government is an awful mechanism to drive change.



    Ahh.. so freedom until the choices made don't align with your perspective of acceptable.

    Again, that's complete and utter arrogance.

    Individual freedom will always lead to outcomes that align with the expectations and desires of the individual. That is the paramount concept of liberty.

    Government engagement and attempt to influence outcomes is nothing more than taking away freedom and liberty under the presumption of superior ideology. It's the antithesis of freedom and liberty.

    Claiming to be an advocate for individual freedom, and then saying that you have to take freedom away to preserve it is the height of ridiculous.

    The arrogance it takes to assume that position is astounding.
     
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    It's 411,480 For Biden
    and 406,190 for Trump

    Your source isn't credible.

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=us+de...A94371B3C442B0995211E971242248&FORM=QBLH&sp=2
     
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    LOL... the official CDC isn't credible and you come back with Bing, which CITES the CDC for it's data??

    That's a true loser move....

    Maybe you are including dead Georgia voters in your Biden total??

    The numbers will likely eventually be higher under POTUS Joe, but I suggest you wait for it to be official before popping that champagne...
     
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    Joe Biden's campaign words that the liberals want to forget, to stick their heads in the sand and say they were never said. Liberals are great at attempting to revise history, but poor at it.

    “If you hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this,” Biden said. “Anyone that is responsible for that many deaths (referring to his predecessor) should not remain as president of the United States of America.”

    “I will take care of this,” he promised. “I will end this. I’m going to shut down the virus, not the country.”

    Check the mirror Joe. Your time is up.
     
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    More Americans have died under Biden from COVID then under Trump, yet Biden swore he would solve the issue. Now we have a massive strain going around with apparently most people vaccinated. My guess on his next move?

    Just point the finger at Republicans.

    They can control the WH, the Senate and Congress, yet still everything is their oppositions fault. You can’t make this stuff up if you tried.
     
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    Biden just tapped out. He acts Hes impotent.

     
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    The CDC is pure propaganda.

    Fact Check - 6,000 VAERS reports were deleted for being foreign entries, CDC says

    I wouldn't believe a word they say even if their tongues came notarized.
     
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