Biden to Gun Owners: You’ll Need an F-16 to Go Against the Government

Oh wow you found a typo..... Do you plan to address the fact that it doesn't make people racist to point out the fact that a percentage of the black population is responsible for an overwhelming majority of violent crime?

 

Is that supposed to be a response to my post (#341)?

It certainly doesn't read like one. Anyone who has served in our armed forces can tell you what they swear to support and defend when they take their oath of enlistment, and the refusal on the parts of the vast majority of localities and sheriff/police departments in Virginia to violate the 2A rights of the people they serve is also an indisputable fact.

Since there was no mention of early American police in your post #298 and my post #341 I don't know how that is relevant to either one of our posts, but if you were indeed responding to my post you're just propping up a strawman.

"We" are?

I'm not, are you?

Again, your comments are divorced from reality. No one is killing anyone due to the 2nd Amendment. The 2A is not a license to kill, much less commit mass murder, it is an affirmation of the law abiding citizen's right to bear arms, which is a fundamental individual right that was affirmed in America long before the COTUS was written (e.g., the British Bill of Rights of 1689).

Yes, we do have a standing army, don't we, and that's one reason why we have a Second Amendment. The Founders and Framers were all too aware of the abuses committed by the standing armies under the English/British monarchies and Oliver Cromwell's Protectorate, and the 2A was written, in part, to counter the threats to life and liberty that those standing armies posed to the civilian population.

 

feel free to move to one of those nanny states. I don't cry for things I don't cause. I love the hatred I see in gun banners-it has nothing to do with crime control but a cultural loathing that I believe is caused by this: gun ownership is a signal that someone has made his or her personal safety an INDIVIDUAL responsibility. that accentuates feelings of inadequacy in those who are afraid to accept that personal responsibility. So they try to attack gun owners rather than face their own failings

 

So much of that sounds like projection.

 

the entire foundation of leftwing democrat policies is keeping people dependent on government. tell me where is the maturity in that?

 

sounds like you have no understanding of the term-or much else concerning this issue

 

I am not sure that is correct.

 

I know it is-I don't really care if you think otherwise. parties don't engage in activities that would cause them to lose voters. If everyone was independent and able to take care of theirselves, they wouldn't need the democrats. so democrats don't want to do things that are going to make people less dependent on government

 

That also seems incorrect.

 

Just nonsense.

 

You'e got nothing.

Better luck mustering a rebuttal next time....

 

That's just not true.

• She was armed with a manic mob that would have followed her through the breach in the last barrier between them and an evacuating Congress.
• She was shot because she was the first one through the window, which stopped the attack by the mob she was leading.

And that's just meaningless bullshit.

And by the way new video shows her punching out one of her cohorts to stop him from being the first through the pushed out window.

 

Lol.... If you tell yourself that enough times you might actually believe it.

You do know they keep crimes statistics by race right? You can even go and look them up and learn the facts.

What's morally repugnant is all of the crime that they commit

But instead of just realizing there's a problem it's easier to just go after the people that point out the problem

 

Okay

 

Since I too took that oath it's my sincerest desire to believe that. My trepidation exists on several levels. Not the least of which is there were ex and off duty members of our military present and actively participating, even leading in the attack on our Capitol. And Ex-Lieutenant General Mike Flynn was a leader of the "Stop the Steal" teasonous nonsense.

But, accepting that what Talon said ...

... has any credence, we could end up with a divided military at odds with itself. This would put American's in quite the pickle especially if Trump follows the Heritage foundation's "Project 2025" plan of invoking the "War Powers Act" to keep us all in line when he starts dismantling the Constitution.

But you said: (which I don't agree with)

Even if our Military stands united they will be hopelessly out numbered, imagine the chaos if they are fighting each other and American insurgents.

 

Oh good god, you made the statement so answer the question or just say you don't want to say what you meant. I suspect you said something stupid and now realize you've backed yourself into a corner.

1/6 is what it is. It was a protest that turned into a riot that led to some of them violently breaking into the capital building, which should NEVER HAPPEN. Some stole some stuff, some walked around, some went into the chambers and played representative. All were prosecuted, non were charged with insurrection because they didn't do anything to overthrow anything nor was there some grand plan to do so. Now you and a few others feel like you have to make it out to be republicans with AR's storming the capital and taking over the government. OK didn't happen but whatever makes you feel important typing on a message board.

 

Agree so quit saying it? Seriously, what is Biden doing other than once again trying to split America and gas light the opposition??

 

That's not what he was doing. He was talking to MAYORS, trying to alleviate any fears they may have about local militias pulling a Jan 6th, in their cities.

 

Ah you forgot about seditious conspiracy. !!

Those people are doing 20 yrs in a federal prison, no parole in federal prison.

 

That's why I believe that our military wouldn't have any hope to squash an AR-15 uprising, even with their F-16s, like President Biden seems to believe. 1) they wouldn't massacre Americans 2) If they did, they couldn't do so without disrupting their own supply lines. 3) they would never be able to unify behind that mission. It would be a total melt down, complete chaos.

The notion that Trump intends to deploy the military to "dismantle the Constitution" is just ridiculous... you can't seriously believe that. But, if he did, would you still feel that "no true patriot that loves our Constitution would ever consider [interfering with our government]" That's what I originally called you out about. I bet, if Trump were duly elected, and then attempted to "dismantle the Constitution" as you say, that true patriots would be lining up by the millions to "interfere".

 

so when the democrats have been pissing and moaning about the "rich not paying their fair share" what sort of voters are they pandering to?

 

But, THEN they wouldn't be "interfering with OUR Government" they would be saving it. Trump did his best to overturn an election which would have been an overturning of OUR Government. I don't want to give him another chance.

 

It is your argument. You tell me.

 

Those evil, greedy rich pay far more than their fair share. US Treasury says they pay more than twice their "fair share". Not to mention creating the jobs and opportunities the enslaved lower earners use to live.

 

That's pretty much what *I* said:

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Trump, and the J6 rioters, believe that the election was illegally stolen from them. If that were TRUE, then the J6 rioters would have been saving our government from being taken illegitimately, not overturning it. One man's revolution is another mans insurrection. One thing is certain: If they don't do something to bring confidence back to the electoral system, and I mean THIS ELECTION, then what happened on J6 will look like a day at the park. It is a FOOLS GAME to publicly claim the electoral system is broken, even if it really is. Because, after the ballot box becomes ineffective, the ammo box is the only thing left. Nobody wants that.

If you can't beat 'em, JAIL 'em! Amirite?